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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 3, 2016 19:14:39 GMT -5
Read the first volume from the library and enjoyed it as a change of pace. Didn't know there was a followup. Have to check if they have it I cannot wait to get them! It's, like, they had to have picked all the BEST romance comics ever and put them all into one book specifically for meeeeee. Because I do not see any way possible that I'm going to dislike any of those stories. Just checked and the Manhattan library has 10 copies floating around pf Vol 2. Thanks for bringing it to me attention. I would have felt like a Dick not knowing about it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 19:21:57 GMT -5
I cannot wait to get them! It's, like, they had to have picked all the BEST romance comics ever and put them all into one book specifically for meeeeee. Because I do not see any way possible that I'm going to dislike any of those stories. Just checked and the Manhattan library has 10 copies floating around pf Vol 2. Thanks for bringing it to me attention. I would have felt like a Dick not knowing about it You can always count on me! Now, go! Go get your copy! And let me know how that raging bonus is.
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 4, 2016 0:55:37 GMT -5
Discovered a new artist today. New to me, that is. One of the guys who worked on the next issue, Girl's Love Stories #113, is an old school Golden Age artist by the name of Manny Stallman. I've actually seen his art before, but never noted it, as it was some of his early work for Lev Gleason. 20 years later, he was doing genre work for DC, mostly on their war books but apparently also at least some romance stuff. And let me tell you, his art here is really cool! It's very idiosyncratic, especially compared to some of the other DC romance artists; there's not exactly a house style, but there kind of is - the clean lines of Abruzzo, Romita, and Werner Roth. Stallman's stuff is much more free and expressive; some of the panels here are really fantastic. It's interesting that his art appears in the same issue as another Gene Colan story, because Colan's work is the closest to Stallman's that we've seen so far; both of them together makes for a really interesting artistic experience. Very interested in seeing more stories from this guy. I'm surprised I've never heard the name before, if this is the kind of stuff he was turning out. I'll have more when I get to reviewing the issue, but here's a look at my favorite panel from this issue - pure greatness here:
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Post by MDG on Feb 4, 2016 9:26:31 GMT -5
Manny Stallman was longtime artist on The Adventures of Big Boy. He did some interesting stuff for Warren as well.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Feb 4, 2016 9:54:36 GMT -5
Discovered a new artist today. New to me, that is. One of the guys who worked on the next issue, Girl's Love Stories #113, is an old school Golden Age artist by the name of Manny Stallman. I've actually seen his art before, but never noted it, as it was some of his early work for Lev Gleason. 20 years later, he was doing genre work for DC, mostly on their war books but apparently also at least some romance stuff. And let me tell you, his art here is really cool! It's very idiosyncratic, especially compared to some of the other DC romance artists; there's not exactly a house style, but there kind of is - the clean lines of Abruzzo, Romita, and Werner Roth. Stallman's stuff is much more free and expressive; some of the panels here are really fantastic. It's interesting that his art appears in the same issue as another Gene Colan story, because Colan's work is the closest to Stallman's that we've seen so far; both of them together makes for a really interesting artistic experience. Very interested in seeing more stories from this guy. I'm surprised I've never heard the name before, if this is the kind of stuff he was turning out. I'll have more when I get to reviewing the issue, but here's a look at my favorite panel from this issue - pure greatness here: That would look great framed on a wall.
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Post by Farrar on Feb 4, 2016 12:54:41 GMT -5
Discovered a new artist today. New to me, that is. One of the guys who worked on the next issue, Girl's Love Stories #113, is an old school Golden Age artist by the name of Manny Stallman. I've actually seen his art before, but never noted it, as it was some of his early work for Lev Gleason. 20 years later, he was doing genre work for DC, mostly on their war books but apparently also at least some romance stuff... Yes, he was quite an artist--such striking work! For those who may interested, here's more info on Stallman, from Mark Evanier: Here is the link www.newsfromme.com/pov/col146/ for it.
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 5, 2016 1:15:36 GMT -5
Girls' Love Stories #113
August 1965Story One: April O'Day returns! She's still trying to land a big role in a movie, which frankly is kind of weird given that she's landed a big role in a movie in each of the previous stories. You know, for an ongoing soap opera, there doesn't seem to be much ongoing about this series. Case in point: Roy, her one true love from last issue, is nowhere to be found in this issue. Instead, April is now obsessed with a big time movie star named Tracy Trent. It's like Kabuki theater or something; every issue has the exact same elements, but they have no connection to each other and are arranged slightly differently to tell a new story. Anyway. So, April spends her nights having Romance Comic Dream Montages about Tracy Trent, which gives artist Manny Stallman an excuse to cut loose with some fantastic panels: Suddenly! Her dreams unexpectedly come true when the studio holds a publicity stunt where Tracy supposedly is hypnotized into sleeping, and only the kiss of a beautiful woman can wake him. Dozens of aspiring starlets are brought out to try and kiss him awake like Sleeping Beauty; naturally, he awakens when April kisses him, because she's had dream practice. This sparks a torrid affair in real life, which is marred by the fact that he's already in a relationship with superstar actress Mona Gay. April tries to forget this niggling detail, but finally she can't ignore it, so she staggers out onto a deserted beach and lays down to die. But suddenly! Tracy shows up and kisses her. When she left him, he just then realized she was actually the girl for him, so he... I dunno, scoured all the empty beaches in the area looking for idiotic emo girls? Well, it worked, and they live happily ever after! THE END!! Story Two: Karen is exasperated with her boyfriend Kenny. Why? Because he's an insensitive doofus. He's constantly standing her up, telling her off, and generally being a dink. For no apparent reason, though, she's in love with him and decides to marry him anyway. THE END!! Not much of a story here. Story Three: A totally different Karen falls in love with Don. When she mentions marriage, though, he outright dismisses the entire concept of marriage as sheer idiocy. Yet somehow he can't figure out why she's upset. She breaks up with him. It sucks. Until she meets Derek, that is! He's a big time lawyer, and good looking. Steady, smart, the kind of man you can settle down with. And he wants to marry her! One problem though: she's not actually interested in him, she's just going along with it because she thinks she should be. He proposes, and she breaks up with him. It sucks. Until she meets.. well, a whole montage of other dudes that she's not in love with either. Man, that Don dude did a number on this chick. Finally, she ends up with Steve. The two of them can't stand each other, and spend all their time together bickering and arguing. They literally have this conversation: Steve: I've never had a worse time in my entire life than the time I've had with you! Karen: I was trying to find out what love is! Instead, I've discovered what hate is! Yeah, I've had dates like that before too. Naturally, they decide that they have both finally found true love, and they live happily ever after. Really. Talk about a recipe for disaster. THE END!! Notes: Manny Stallman's art here is really interesting. It's much scratchier and moodier than most of the very clean DC romance artists. It is an interesting bridge in a way between the work of Gene Colan and Mike Sekowsky. He really cuts loose on the dream sequences, and on the money shot panels of people kissing and getting romantic. The other panels, where the storytelling takes place, are less accomplished. It makes for a strange reading experience, as the story goes along at one speed, and then hits you between the eyes with an unexpectedly fantastic sequence. Speaking of Colan, he turns in another amazing art job. It's not perfect, though. If Colan has one consistent weakness for me, it's that he sometimes gets too weird with his panel layouts, necessitating little arrows to show you what order you're supposed to read them in. Colan did this his entire career. He must have known better, so I have to presume he was doing this intentionally for some reason, but I find it distracting. There are more celebrity cameos in this issue; Alfred Hitchcock and Andy Williams are the stars this time. Among others; those are just the ones noted by GCD, but in the same panel there are two women who appear to be caricatures of actual people. I just don't recognize them. The second and third stories are interesting in that both of them feature couples who dislike each other and don't get along. I wonder if this is intentional. Actually, it makes me wonder how these books were put together. With seven romance titles going at the time, DC must have been getting in tons of these little stories every month. Were they commissioned for specific titles? Or did they mix and match? This issue suggests to me that the stories were commissioned for this issue, because the stories are all weird lengths - 13 pages, 4 pages, and, 10 pages - so it would have been hard to fit them in with other normal length stories. On the other hand, as we saw last issue, they have filler like fashion pin up pages they can use to round out odd numbered stories, so maybe they did just mix and match these last two stories thematically rather than commission them to specifically go together in this issue. My Grade: B. The excellent art elevates this issue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 12:19:15 GMT -5
Girls' Love Stories #113
August 1965Story One: April O'Day returns! She's still trying to land a big role in a movie, which frankly is kind of weird given that she's landed a big role in a movie in each of the previous stories. You know, for an ongoing soap opera, there doesn't seem to be much ongoing about this series. Case in point: Roy, her one true love from last issue, is nowhere to be found in this issue. Instead, April is now obsessed with a big time movie star named Tracy Trent. It's like Kabuki theater or something; every issue has the exact same elements, but they have no connection to each other and are arranged slightly differently to tell a new story. Anyway. So, April spends her nights having Romance Comic Dream Montages about Tracy Trent, which gives artist Manny Stallman an excuse to cut loose with some fantastic panels: Suddenly! Her dreams unexpectedly come true when the studio holds a publicity stunt where Tracy supposedly is hypnotized into sleeping, and only the kiss of a beautiful woman can wake him. Dozens of aspiring starlets are brought out to try and kiss him awake like Sleeping Beauty; naturally, he awakens when April kisses him, because she's had dream practice. This sparks a torrid affair in real life, which is marred by the fact that he's already in a relationship with superstar actress Mona Gay. April tries to forget this niggling detail, but finally she can't ignore it, so she staggers out onto a deserted beach and lays down to die. But suddenly! Tracy shows up and kisses her. When she left him, he just then realized she was actually the girl for him, so he... I dunno, scoured all the empty beaches in the area looking for idiotic emo girls? Well, it worked, and they live happily ever after! THE END!! Story Two: Karen is exasperated with her boyfriend Kenny. Why? Because he's an insensitive doofus. He's constantly standing her up, telling her off, and generally being a dink. For no apparent reason, though, she's in love with him and decides to marry him anyway. THE END!! Not much of a story here. Story Three: A totally Karen falls in love with Don. When she mentions marriage, though, he outright dismisses the entire concept of marriage as sheer idiocy. Yet somehow he can't figure out why she's upset. She breaks up with him. It sucks. Until she meets Derek, that is! He's a big time lawyer, and good looking. Steady, smart, the kind of man you can settle down with. And he wants to marry her! One problem though: she's not actually interested in him, she's just going along with it because she thinks she should be. He proposes, and she breaks up with him. It sucks. Until she meets.. well, a whole montage of other dudes that she's not in love with either. Man, that Don dude did a number on this chick. Finally, she ends up with Steve. The two of them can't stand each other, and spend all their time together bickering and arguing. They literally have this conversation: Steve: I've never had a worse time in my entire life than the time I've had with you! Karen: I was trying to find out what love is! Instead, I've discovered what hate is! Yeah, I've had dates like that before too. Naturally, they decide that they have both finally found true love, and they live happily ever after. Really. Talk about a recipe for disaster. THE END!! Notes: Manny Stallman's art here is really interesting. It's much scratchier and moodier than most of the very clean DC romance artists. It is an interesting bridge in a way between the work of Gene Colan and Mike Sekowsky. He really cuts loose on the dream sequences, and on the money shot panels of people kissing and getting romantic. The other panels, where the storytelling takes place, are less accomplished. It makes for a strange reading experience, as the story goes along at one speed, and then hits you between the eyes with an unexpectedly fantastic sequence. Speaking of Colan, he turns in another amazing art job. It's not perfect, though. If Colan has one consistent weakness for me, it's that he sometimes gets too weird with his panel layouts, necessitating little arrows to show you what order you're supposed to read them in. Colan did this his entire career. He must have known better, so I have to presume he was doing this intentionally for some reason, but I find it distracting. There are more celebrity cameos in this issue; Alfred Hitchcock and Andy Williams are the stars this time. Among others; those are just the ones noted by GCD, but in the same panel there are two women who appear to be caricatures of actual people. I just don't recognize them. The second and third stories are interesting in that both of them feature couples who dislike each other and don't get along. I wonder if this is intentional. Actually, it makes me wonder how these books were put together. With seven romance titles going at the time, DC must have been getting in tons of these little stories every month. Were they commissioned for specific titles? Or did they mix and match? This issue suggests to me that the stories were commissioned for this issue, because the stories are all weird lengths - 13 pages, 4 pages, and, 10 pages - so it would have been hard to fit them in with other normal length stories. On the other hand, as we saw last issue, they have filler like fashion pin up pages they can use to round out odd numbered stories, so maybe they did just mix and match these last two stories thematically rather than commission them to specifically go together in this issue. My Grade: B. The excellent art elevates this issue. I was just looking for this thread. I somehow missed it on the first page. I thought it somehow got pushed to page 2. I couldn't find it on page 2, though. I had a split second panic. Finally found this thread, and am very happy to read another great review! I've been reading the books you sent me. Some craziness in those! I need to get scans, but I don't want to take over your thread. But I might post some because I CANNOT HELP IT. The craziness needs to be seen by others! The stories are just insane to think how stupidly, and stupidly EASY, these characters fall in love. Hilarity at its best.
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 5, 2016 14:07:09 GMT -5
... in the same panel there are two women who appear to be caricatures of actual people. I just don't recognize them. Can you post a scan of that panel? Some of us here remember 1965 and might recognize them.
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 5, 2016 15:09:08 GMT -5
Here it is: I'd bet a monkey against a mousetrap that all five people in this picture other than April O'Day are real celebrities. But GCD only identifies Andy Williams and Alfred Hitchcock. I almost recognize the other man in the picture, but can't quite put my finger on his name. The two women, no idea.
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Post by MDG on Feb 5, 2016 15:25:09 GMT -5
The blonde might be Debbie Reynolds.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 18:17:17 GMT -5
I was reading from my Simon/Kirby collection book earlier, and there was story in there that was kind of an advice column turned into a comic. Does her face look happy? lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 18:20:11 GMT -5
And these two I am posting because I just loved the art so much. The story was cute and silly. But this art. <3 This will be my new avatar in a minute.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 5, 2016 18:25:44 GMT -5
Pardon my Swiss cheesy memory, I know some members on this board can fill in the actual details. but there was a great series of informative articles on Romance comics back in the 1980s in the CBGB fanzine. They had a female regular columnist (don't remember her name) and she wrote up great essays on the genre's origin as well as a publisher-by-publisher review. What was fascinating was how pervasive the genre developed in the early 50s. We usually equate the marketplace at that time awash with horror, crime, western or other subject matters. But according to what (Ahh. I just remembered her last name) Nolan compiled, Romance comics was the largest genre with over 33% of the comics dealing with that subject. She called it 'The Love Glut" which might be in the title of the book that she wrote that compiled and expanded on those articles. It might be available in your library system or on Amazon. Its considered the best research book on the matter and a fun read as well The Book was Love on the Racks... -M Almost done with this. Really interesting! There is a lot about Golden Age (especially) comics I didn't know - this is the first time I'd ever seen a list/comparison of all the Golden Age Publishers - well, all the ones who were doing romance comics, which was most of them. I do wish the book reprinted a couple of whole stories, especially the Fox ones which Nolan always, every time refers to as "Sleazy." Come on! I want to see some sleaze!
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 5, 2016 18:34:24 GMT -5
Damn it. Went to the midtown Manhattan library to pick up a copy of Weird Love volume 2 since the website says they had 4 copies available in that particular branch. But they are somewhere in the basement still awaiting processing for over a week now and not on the shelf. Well, I'll be back to get you my little chickadee. Never you fear and don't go two-timing me before I get there
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