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Post by tingramretro on Jan 31, 2016 4:06:57 GMT -5
I rather liked Superman III. I don't see why it gets so much negativity these days. Wasn't it quite successful at the time?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 4:25:50 GMT -5
I rather liked Superman III. I don't see why it gets so much negativity these days. Wasn't it quite successful at the time? Not compared to the previous two. And it went completely downhill with Superman IV. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 31, 2016 4:44:54 GMT -5
Apparently it was the sixth most successful movie in the UK in 1983. It seems we liked it more than the US audience did.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 31, 2016 5:05:28 GMT -5
Superman IV was produced by Canon Films, so it never had a chance. Superman III had some nice moments, and the Superman good/evil duality bit was interesting, but the overt use of Richard Pryor was just wrongheaded. It would be like sticking Bill Burr or Louie C.K. front and center into a modern Captain America or Iron Man movie. Sure, the concept would be hilarious in a way, but there's no way it would make for a good Cap or Iron Man movie.
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 31, 2016 6:00:19 GMT -5
I have never heard of either of those people (Bill Burr or Louie whoever). |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 31, 2016 8:13:53 GMT -5
I have never heard of either of those people (Bill Burr or Louie whoever). Google is your friend. I'll just say that they're both among the most popular stand-up comics in the States. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 31, 2016 11:06:31 GMT -5
I have never heard of either of those people (Bill Burr or Louie whoever). Google is your friend. I'll just say that they're both among the most popular stand-up comics in the States. Ah. Not quite the same then, as Richard Pryor was internationally famous. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 31, 2016 11:19:32 GMT -5
Google is your friend. I'll just say that they're both among the most popular stand-up comics in the States. Ah. Not quite the same then, as Richard Pryor was internationally famous. I'm not sure it's possible for a stand-up comic to become as famous as Carlin, Pryor or Murphy in their primes. Entertainment options being so myriad nowadays. Though if you watch Netflix, their specials are all over that menu, so I'm surprised you're not at least vaguely aware of them. I'm constantly seeing specials on there featuring people I've never heard of before. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 31, 2016 11:57:57 GMT -5
Ah. Not quite the same then, as Richard Pryor was internationally famous. I'm not sure it's possible for a stand-up comic to become as famous as Carlin, Pryor or Murphy in their primes. Entertainment options being so myriad nowadays. Though if you watch Netflix, their specials are all over that menu, so I'm surprised you're not at least vaguely aware of them. I'm constantly seeing specials on there featuring people I've never heard of before. Never watched Netflix, not even really sure what it is. Though a quick search reveals that whatever it is, there's a "Netflix (US)" and a "Netflix (UK)", so I suspect I probably still wouldn't find the same material on it that you're seeing. But you're right, Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy were known all over the world and popular pretty much everywhere; still are, in fact. No idea who you mean by "Carlin", though. |
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Post by Warmonger on Jan 31, 2016 12:28:14 GMT -5
I have never heard of either of those people (Bill Burr or Louie whoever). I think Bill Burr is the funniest stand up guy out there right now. Used to like C.K., but his last few specials have sucked IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 12:46:39 GMT -5
Apparently it was the sixth most successful movie in the UK in 1983. It seems we liked it more than the US audience did. I'm with the US audience, it liked Octopussy more.  |
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 31, 2016 14:09:27 GMT -5
No idea who you mean by "Carlin", though. You don't know George Carlin?? Cei-U! I summon the smelling salts! |
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 31, 2016 14:29:33 GMT -5
You don't know George Carlin?? Cei-U! I summon the smelling salts! Nope. Just looked him up but it didn't ring any bells, so I'm guessing he never made it beyond the boundaries of the US. Comedy actors tend to travel better; the world world knows Steve Martin, for instance, and from our side I'm guessing Rowan Atkinson probably has international appeal. But stand-up tends to be topical, which tends to also mean 'local', so very few stand-ups achieve success in countries other than their own. Have many Americans ever heard of Bob Monkhouse or Jim Davidson, for instance, or (from the current generation) Rob Brydon or Michael Macintyre? |
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Post by Dizzy D on Jan 31, 2016 15:11:34 GMT -5
You don't know George Carlin?? Cei-U! I summon the smelling salts! Nope. Just looked him up but it didn't ring any bells, so I'm guessing he never made it beyond the boundaries of the US. Comedy actors tend to travel better; the world world knows Steve Martin, for instance, and from our side I'm guessing Rowan Atkinson probably has international appeal. But stand-up tends to be topical, which tends to also mean 'local', so very few stand-ups achieve success in countries other than their own. Have many Americans ever heard of Bob Monkhouse or Jim Davidson, for instance, or (from the current generation) Rob Brydon or Michael Macintyre? Carlin has been in quite a few movies, so he's known outside the US, certainly not as big as Pryor, Murphy or even a Bill Hicks, but still a face that many people will recognise. I know Louis CK, but that's due to him being in some stuff that was in Comedy Central over here. I guess people who get on the Daily Show are known more abroad (Many Americans will know John Oliver thanks to the Daily Show and Last Week Tonight. Very few will know his comedy partner Andy Zaltzman) Of the British comedians you mention (I don't count as I was raised on the BBC basically even though I'm not British), Rob Brydon might be the one most reknown as he has had small roles in various movies over the years, maybe not by name, but his face might be familiar to people accross the ocean. Jim Davidson is not known outside the UK (thank God!). |
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Post by tingramretro on Jan 31, 2016 17:02:22 GMT -5
Nope. Just looked him up but it didn't ring any bells, so I'm guessing he never made it beyond the boundaries of the US. Comedy actors tend to travel better; the world world knows Steve Martin, for instance, and from our side I'm guessing Rowan Atkinson probably has international appeal. But stand-up tends to be topical, which tends to also mean 'local', so very few stand-ups achieve success in countries other than their own. Have many Americans ever heard of Bob Monkhouse or Jim Davidson, for instance, or (from the current generation) Rob Brydon or Michael Macintyre? Carlin has been in quite a few movies, so he's known outside the US, certainly not as big as Pryor, Murphy or even a Bill Hicks, but still a face that many people will recognise. I know Louis CK, but that's due to him being in some stuff that was in Comedy Central over here. I guess people who get on the Daily Show are known more abroad (Many Americans will know John Oliver thanks to the Daily Show and Last Week Tonight. Very few will know his comedy partner Andy Zaltzman) Of the British comedians you mention (I don't count as I was raised on the BBC basically even though I'm not British), Rob Brydon might be the one most reknown as he has had small roles in various movies over the years, maybe not by name, but his face might be familiar to people accross the ocean. Jim Davidson is not known outside the UK (thank God!). I don't think I've ever actually heard of Bill Hicks, either. I wish I didn't know Jim Davidson... |
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