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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 16:51:49 GMT -5
You don't know George Carlin?? Cei-U! I summon the smelling salts! Nope. Just looked him up but it didn't ring any bells, so I'm guessing he never made it beyond the boundaries of the US. Comedy actors tend to travel better; the world world knows Steve Martin, for instance, and from our side I'm guessing Rowan Atkinson probably has international appeal. But stand-up tends to be topical, which tends to also mean 'local', so very few stand-ups achieve success in countries other than their own. Have many Americans ever heard of Bob Monkhouse or Jim Davidson, for instance, or (from the current generation) Rob Brydon or Michael Macintyre? Carlin was the first host of SNL |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 1, 2016 18:19:17 GMT -5
Nope. Just looked him up but it didn't ring any bells, so I'm guessing he never made it beyond the boundaries of the US. Comedy actors tend to travel better; the world world knows Steve Martin, for instance, and from our side I'm guessing Rowan Atkinson probably has international appeal. But stand-up tends to be topical, which tends to also mean 'local', so very few stand-ups achieve success in countries other than their own. Have many Americans ever heard of Bob Monkhouse or Jim Davidson, for instance, or (from the current generation) Rob Brydon or Michael Macintyre? I've heard of Rob Brydon (QI, The Brink, Annually Retentive, Would I Lie to You?...), but then I'm Canadian. I'm begining to suspect you're just not a stand up comedy fan (though George Carlin was also in the Bill & Ted movies, a few Kevin Smith movies, Shiningtime Station, Car Wash, Cars, The Prince of Tides...) Never seen any of those except Bill & Ted. I am a stand up comedy fan, it's just that I'm only really a British stand up fan. |
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 1, 2016 18:27:12 GMT -5
I've heard of Rob Brydon (QI, The Brink, Annually Retentive, Would I Lie to You?...), but then I'm Canadian. I'm begining to suspect you're just not a stand up comedy fan (though George Carlin was also in the Bill & Ted movies, a few Kevin Smith movies, Shiningtime Station, Car Wash, Cars, The Prince of Tides...) Never seen any of those except Bill & Ted. I am a stand up comedy fan, it's just that I'm only really a British stand up fan. You're a dying breed in the internet age, my friend. |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 1, 2016 18:31:37 GMT -5
Never seen any of those except Bill & Ted. I am a stand up comedy fan, it's just that I'm only really a British stand up fan. You're a dying breed in the internet age, my friend. Then I am happy to be so. |
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 1, 2016 18:34:33 GMT -5
You're happy to potentially deny yourself other countries funny people?
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 1, 2016 18:42:16 GMT -5
You're happy to potentially deny yourself other countries funny people? Well, I watched the videos posted earlier and also some others I Googled based on names mentioned here and I didn't find them very funny. I don't think comedy often travels well. If you don't get the cultural references, it's often hard to get the joke. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 23:25:59 GMT -5
I don't think Carlin is funny. I didn't like his job as host of SNL, and his stand up is more preaching than telling jokes. I can agree with his message, but it isn't jokes and doesn't make me chuckle.
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Post by batlaw on Feb 1, 2016 23:57:09 GMT -5
I don't think Carlin is funny. I didn't like his job as host of SNL, and his stand up is more preaching than telling jokes. I can agree with his message, but it isn't jokes and doesn't make me chuckle. See, I loved carlin growing up. I acknowledge and agree with his talent intelligence and contribution to comedy. But in later years I found he and his material rather unpleasant. His stuff just became angry, sidle minded nastiness. I feel similarly with Luis ck and mark maron? I've tried them periodically because according to the masses they're endlessly brilliant and hilarious. Neither have caused me to crack a smile. Ck imo is just unpleasant and depressing. To get even further off topic, Other comedians I can't stand or never understood how they earned a living include... Richard belzer and Richard Lewis. And call me "sexist" or whatever but 95% of all female comedians too. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 0:01:17 GMT -5
I'm not a Louis CK fan either. And it's been a while since I thought a popular comedian was funny. Not a fan of the Redneck Comedy guys, Not a fan of the puppet guy. Don't like George Lopez or Carlos Mencia. Don't like that leprechaun pimp guy at all. Compared to this lot I actually think Dane Cook is fantastic, but not a huge fan of his either.
Hasn't been since probably the late 80's that a superstar comedian was funny to me. But those random comedy shows can have some fun stuff on them.
Oh yeah, I love Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock is alright. I'll be checking out that Kevin Hart special, never really seen his stand up before.
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 2, 2016 2:09:36 GMT -5
The only American comedians I know these days are Rich Hall and Reginald D Hunter, both of whom seem to live over here in the UK and appear regularly on TV, on shows lie QI. Rich Hall in particular is very popular, and I can see why. Very funny man.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 2, 2016 4:17:18 GMT -5
You're happy to potentially deny yourself other countries funny people? Well, I watched the videos posted earlier and also some others I Googled based on names mentioned here and I didn't find them very funny. I don't think comedy often travels well. If you don't get the cultural references, it's often hard to get the joke. I agree with the bolded part. Of course, there are some very funny American comedy shows and comedians that I really like, but for the most part, I think what passes for comedy in the U.S. is about as funny as discovering you've got a brain tumor. This is especially true of American sit-coms, which by and large are utterly awful. I reckon upwards of 90% of my favourite sit-coms, comedy shows and stand up comedians are British. |
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 2, 2016 11:32:14 GMT -5
You don't know George Carlin?? Cei-U! I summon the smelling salts! Nope. Just looked him up but it didn't ring any bells, so I'm guessing he never made it beyond the boundaries of the US. Comedy actors tend to travel better; the world world knows Steve Martin, for instance, and from our side I'm guessing Rowan Atkinson probably has international appeal. But stand-up tends to be topical, which tends to also mean 'local', so very few stand-ups achieve success in countries other than their own. Have many Americans ever heard of Bob Monkhouse or Jim Davidson, for instance, or (from the current generation) Rob Brydon or Michael Macintyre? I know Rob Brydon from The Trip and The Trip to Italy. Those were excellent. |
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 29, 2017 8:27:52 GMT -5
I gave up on comics after DC's Crisis. At the time I was in college and had to make cuts in my budget. For the most part I went along with the single universe theme though it meant saying goodbye to my beloved Earth-Two. I bought the occasional comic, and Marvel was still simpler to follow. Then came the crossovers, so it was impossible to follow one comic. And multiple covers. DC said getting rid off Earth-Two and its doppelgangers of the prime universe characters was too confusing but then came a whole slew of "legacy" characters with so many suffixes to their name one had to brush up on Roman numerology. Soon comics disappeared from the local grocery stores, etc. The comics code -- whether good or evil -- was gone. Comics became more violent, dark and gritty. And don't forget the reboots! The term "comic book" became an oxymoron. A few years ago, DC announced 52, and started all over. And now DC announces Rebirth. Still not sure what that's going to be. Anyway, to get to the point, are comics still fun? Am I just an old man who misses .25 comics on a spinner rack? The days of letter columns. The smell of newsprint. Editor's notes. Actual comic panels. Or did I just answer my own question. I come from a different world where I was only mildly exposed to comic books as a kid. Some of the names interested me, but not enough to actually pick up a book and read them. So I missed out on the whole "wait in line to get the next edition" phase. Today, I have found a love of comic books (and mostly just the classics) in the "simple, straightforward, and child-like" writing of a bygone era. I can go back and not have to deal with politics or current trends slipping into the stories I am reading. The stories (although certainly not all) had heart, if not necessarily Pulitzer Prize writing. So, yes, comic books are still fun, but not necessarily new comic books. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 29, 2017 8:52:48 GMT -5
The magic to comic books is that you can read something 30 years old and still get a thrill like if it just came out. The subscription services are great to have. I'm reading many of the silver and Bronze age books that I'd missed the first time around.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Oct 29, 2017 11:38:02 GMT -5
Dane Cook was huge not tooo long ago, albeit flash-in-the-pan-y. Er...who? Be thankfully. Imagine a edgy hormonal 15 year old with a microphone and an audience that paid to be there. |
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