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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 16:16:32 GMT -5
Justice League Action...  Kevin COnroy will return to voice the Batman and Mark Hammill to voice the Joker. It will do 11 minute stories (likely 2 per episode) instead of full length stories each episode (sort of like the old Super Friends shorts I guess. Hawkman, Green Arrow, Zatanna, Plastic Man and Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes) all appear in the background of the promo poster and Lex Luthor and Booster Gold are confirmed via voice cast lists. No debut date has been given... CBR story-M |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 29, 2016 18:27:08 GMT -5
Looks like it could be fun
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Post by Warmonger on Jan 29, 2016 19:48:28 GMT -5
Sounds pretty cool, but I just wish these animated shows spent more time on the actual...animating.
I don't think we'll ever see another Batman: The Animated Series.
Dark, Disney-esque animation that you can tell was handled with oodles of love and care.
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Post by robsuperfriend63 on Jan 29, 2016 21:46:03 GMT -5
Anything that has Kevin Conroy as Batman & Mark Hamill as the Joker I'll support!  |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 30, 2016 0:14:35 GMT -5
BTAS, particularly the first series, was a work of art disguised as a kids action/adventure show. Sure, it was ostensibly a kids cartoon, but there was a ton of high conceptualizing going on in the development of that show. We're unlikely to see that again given how hands on corporate are nowadays at WB and Disney. That said, if this show is fun and smart, I'm all for it. Ultimately, the goal should be to get kids so enamored with superheroes that they seek out the comics. At that point, it's up to DC to provide comics that would appeal to the same group of kids.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 6:10:43 GMT -5
BTAS, particularly the first series, was a work of art disguised as a kids action/adventure show. Sure, it was ostensibly a kids cartoon, but there was a ton of high conceptualizing going on in the development of that show. We're unlikely to see that again given how hands on corporate are nowadays at WB and Disney. That said, if this show is fun and smart, I'm all for it. Ultimately, the goal should be to get kids so enamored with superheroes that they seek out the comics. At that point, it's up to DC to provide comics that would appeal to the same group of kids. You fail to see the intended purpose of Cartoon Network-it's not to get kids so excited they go out and buy comics, it's to get them so excited about super-heroes they go out and buy toys. The last few DC series on Cartoon Network (GL: Animated Series, Young Justice, the last Batman series) were cancelled not because of ratings or lack of interest in the show, but because they did not materialize the expected toy sales. You can bet there will be a new action series line tied to this and it's sales will determine how long this series lasts, not ratings, not comic sales or anything else. -M |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 30, 2016 6:17:41 GMT -5
I don't fail to see that at all. Corporations are all about "synergy" nowadays so it's not all about the toys anymore. Mostly, but not all. I'm sure they'll produce a comic adaptation. In the context of comics, the hope is that they buy more comics.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 6:38:16 GMT -5
I don't fail to see that at all. Corporations are all about "synergy" nowadays so it's not all about the toys anymore. Mostly, but not all. I'm sure they'll produce a comic adaptation. In the context of comics, the hope is that they buy more comics. Except pretty much all of Cartoon Network programming decisions are guided by toy sales these days, no corporate synergy, just toy sales-the toys sell, they can get higher ad rates for commercial spots in the shows, the toys don't sell, they hav eto charge less for ad slots, so will look to other programming they can charge more for. Toy rates are more important than ratings for the ad rates on Cartoon Network and the ad rates are their primary source of revenue-all the comic sales in the world won't help their ad rates because that's not what the marketers are looking at and measuring when they determine how much they are willing to pay to advertise during the time slot of a given show. Cartoon Network and DC have the same corporate overlord, yet DC shows often get the short shift over licenses form other companies because their toy sales and ad rates are better-profits trump corporate synergy in this case and profits are based on the relationship between toy sales and ad rates. Cartoon Network can't point to another division's profits to justify their budgets in the quarterly reports, they have to show their worth based on their own earnings and that is dependent on the ad rates base don toy sales, not publishing growth. There has actually been a surprising lack of corporate synergy between Cartoon Network and other entities under the Time Warner umbrella and it has created a lot of animosity in some cases, but CN is absolutely cuthtroat in their decisions for their own benefit, not that of other corporate partners. For them corporate synergy involves giving them 1-2 seasons to show their ability to generate toy sales/ad revenues and that's about as far as it extends if the property in question fails to do so. -M |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 30, 2016 6:51:10 GMT -5
My point is that it would be a happy byproduct. By not mentioning toy sales, I wasn't stating that that wasn't the primary focus.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 7:11:14 GMT -5
My point is that it would be a happy byproduct. By not mentioning toy sales, I wasn't stating that that wasn't the primary focus. There would have to be a comic that was geared toward the audience of this show (not the ongoing new52 style Justice League book or the Hitch JLA book) in places where the kids who watch the show go before any comic sales could be a byproduct of this show. Unless DC Rebirth has an entirely new publishing plan and paradigm with it (which is highly doubtful as it seems geared towards recapturing marketshare among the hardcore audience within the direct market and nothing else), there won't be a comic the audience for this wants to buy and has access to buy for comic sales bumps to be a byproduct. If there were truly corporate synergy, that comic would be part of the launch of this and there's no sign of that. I wish there were, and I hope I am wrong, but there doesn't seem to be anything in the works that would enable a comic sales bump to be a reality. -M |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 30, 2016 7:15:43 GMT -5
I agree that they'll do the typical piss poor job of marketing and advertising the book and it'll probably be canceled within eight issues. Now if they market it as a .99 cent digital first series it might have a chance. I have no idea how well versed kids are with Comixology, though.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 30, 2016 8:08:02 GMT -5
That art is not my cup of tea, but I'll probably check it out. I wonder if it'll be a parody like Teen Titans Go! Also, MRP, it's not ALL about toy sales..its also about game downloads and website hits  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 8:24:00 GMT -5
That art is not my cup of tea, but I'll probably check it out. I wonder if it'll be a parody like Teen Titans Go! Also, MRP, it's not ALL about toy sales..its also about game downloads and website hits Young Justice had one of the highest game download rates for a series at its time, and was a leader in content hits on the CN site, but the toys tanked so it got cancelled. Without toy sales driving ad rates nothing else maters to Cartoon Network decision makers. It's biggest sin was it was attracting a young female demographic and the toys were geared to a male demographic, so despite everything else, the toys didn't sell because the target audience (not any audience but the one they wanted to sell toys to, other numbers were great) of toy buyers weren't coming to it. -M |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 30, 2016 8:35:12 GMT -5
Really? Huh... by the amount they advertise them, I thought the games and such were important. Then again, I sorta feel like the internet is kinda like the underpants gnomes... Web Site....hits and clicks.....  ?.....Profit! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 9:21:30 GMT -5
Really? Huh... by the amount they advertise them, I thought the games and such were important. Then again, I sorta feel like the internet is kinda like the underpants gnomes... Web Site....hits and clicks..... ?.....Profit! Greg Weisman has talked extensively about why the series got cancelled, he was quite disillusioned by it all. It was one of my wife's favorite shows (and I quite liked it a lot too), so I followed the post-mortem of its demise quite closely. -M |
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