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Post by mikelmidnight on Sept 6, 2019 11:29:16 GMT -5
Wouldn't that just make them closer to their creative inspiration--the Challengers of the Unknown? Yes. I liked that issue, because the point was "even without powers, they would still be heroes fighting to protect people, because that's the kind of folks they are."
And that's precisely why I wish Byrne had done the Challengers of the Fantastic during the Amalgam Comics event, as that's basically what this was.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 7, 2019 8:42:23 GMT -5
hondobrode what made these five issues your favorite?
# 3 was my first issue of What If. I went bananas when I saw it and had no money ! A classmate lent me the 50 cents to get it. I had to have it ! What a story and it didn't end well for poor Tony. Multiple armors ? Wow ! Good story and some of my favorite art ever from Gil Kane and Klaus Janson. What a team !
# 9 - "Agents of Atlas" - I didn't know any of these characters and they were from the past, kind of like the Invaders and they've got the Avengers all shaken up. Still like the eclectic mix of characters.
# 11 - Stan and Company. Nuff said ! Something you don't see every day.
# 13 - Conan in modern times. You thought Steve Rogers man out of time was cool, howzabout our favorite Cimmerian ?
# 16 - Huge Master of Kung Fu fan.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 7, 2019 8:46:29 GMT -5
Are these issues also part of your favorites ?
Yup !
# 18 - Doc as a bad guy against The Ancient One, in service to way bad guy Dormammu
# 20 - Kree-Skrull, the greatest Avengers story of all time, and it doesn't look good for the Avengers
# 22 - Dr Doom, my favorite Marvel character
# 23 - Back to Jarella's world
# 26 - Cap as president
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 9:43:37 GMT -5
I love the What If Series done by Marvel Comics ... hondobrode ... one of my top 5 titles done by Marvel Comics. |
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Post by tarkintino on Sept 8, 2019 14:01:08 GMT -5
What If…? #4: The Invaders had Stayed Together After World War Two?
50 Cents @ August 1977 (Cover Page and 34 net pages) Co-Conjurers of Cosmic Cacophony: Roy Thomas & Frank Robbins Embellisher: Frank Springer Colorist: George Bell Rosen Letterer: Costanza Easily making my top 5 greatest What If issues; by 1977, several writers (Roy Thomas at the top of that list) had built a solid chapter of the Marvel universe on the Golden Age heroes, with Cap leading the way. His stories were so successful at drawing readers into his past that the cover blurb of What If #5 ( "The Cap story YOUR LETTERS demanded!") was one of the few times in comics history that it accurately reflected what readers desired / what was in the story. Its no wonder issues #4 & 5 were so Golden Age/Cap related, especially at a time when The Invaders introduced many a new reader to the glories of Marvel's (retconned) past. |
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Post by tarkintino on Sept 8, 2019 15:16:40 GMT -5
What If…? #24: Spider-Man had Rescued Gwen Stacy? 75 Cents @ December 1980 Writer: Tony Isabella Artists: Gil Kane & Frank Giacoia Colorist: Gafford Letterer: Orzechowski Editor: O’Neil Editor-in-Chief: Shooter Number three on my list of favorite What If stories--and yet another where the cover blurb is as accurate as any one would ever find on a cover. I thought Isabella took every logical step in exploring a world where Stacy was rescued--how Parker turned potential tragedy into triumph. My one "complaint" was the ending: while J.J.J. had law enforcement after Parker, that did not necessarily mean his life with Gwen would be interrupted. I imagine she--being ground zero for why the police would be after him--would choose to go with him, no matter what road that would take. Peter might object, feeling her life would be in danger, but its hard to imagine Gwen not standing by him after all they've been through. Perhaps his costumed friends (with a better public image than Spider-Man) would successfully come to his defense. Who knows? So, aside from that unexplored coda to the issue, it was great from start to finish. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 15:41:00 GMT -5
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Post by sabongero on Jul 1, 2020 18:15:03 GMT -5
 What If...? #30: Spider-Man's Clone Lived?0.75 USD @ December 1981 Writer: Bill Flanagan Penciler: Rich Buckler Inker: Jim Mooney & Pablo Marcos Colorist: George Roussos Letterer: Rick Parker Editor: Tom DeFalco Synopsis: We join Spider-Man battling the Spider-clone, and a sucker punch by the clone knocked out Spider-Man. He saved Ned Leeds from the explosion and advised the clone of Gwen Stacy to call the cops and took off with the unconscious Spider-Man not knowing that the knocked out Spider-Man was the real one. He placed the real Spider-Man inside Professor Warren's clone casket machine to be under suspended animation. The clone then resumed his Peter Parker identity only to find out discrepancies in his life. After all, three years has passed. And he has no memories of the last three years. He realized many changes in his life including two women in his life (and him responsible for the death of one), a new living facility, three years of college experience, and a dangerous enemy he doesn't remember tangling with before. He barely escaped that encounter with The Kingpin. But was challenged to meet The Kingpin at Coney Island for a rematch. The clone then went to Warren's laboratory and uncovered the truth in Warren's notes, that he's the clone, and the genuine Peter Parker/Spider-Man was the one he placed in suspended animation. He was going to pull the plug on it and kill the genuine article but had second thoughts and revived the original. Then, the original Spider-Man and the clone, dressed up as Peter Parker the photographer, went to Coney Island to tangle with The Kingpin. The original Spider-Man was better prepared this time for The Kingpin due to his experience tangling with the arch-criminal mobster. And clone Peter Parker was able to subdue The Kingpin's men, as the genuine article captured The Kingpin. Afterwards, the two agreed to have a dual identity of Spider-Man and Peter Parker each one taking on the superheroing duties on alternate days and flipping for the weekend. Comments: What a phenomenal story by Bill Flanagan. I actually read the issue twice, enjoying it more-so the second time. It's not often you end a Spider-Man story in this era on a happy note, with tragedy and sadness usually befalling our superhero. It was a feel good story. And at the same time, we get a glimpse of what life would be like if you somehow suddenly have three years of your life snatched away from you. Little things turn out to be big differences in your lifestyle and habits formed that you never realized. Then there was the agony of realizing you are not YOU. And that you are somewhat of an abomination, a copy of the genuine article. And even when the clone wanted to live, in return for the death of the genuine article, the goodness that was in Peter Parker prevailed even in the clone. Art duties were solidly done by Rich Buckler. Action sequences and silent moments showcased emotions and feeling in the Peter Parker/Spider-Man clone. That oversized panel when Spider-clone realized he was not the genuine article really spoke to the reader, and you can feel the anguish of him learning he wasn't a real person. The action sequence at the carnival between The Kingpin and the genuine Spider-Man was done in classic Spider-Man slugfest fashion with witty banter and smartly laid out, and easy to follow. A real gem of a read. This is a story a Spider-Man fan can read over and over and not get tired of it. And the best part, it ends up on a positive note for Spider-Man/Peter Parker. |
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Post by badwolf on Jul 2, 2020 8:00:46 GMT -5
I've read that issue before, but at the time I hadn't read the original clone saga so I don't think it meant much to me. Now I have I would like to read it again.
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