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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 24, 2020 11:51:46 GMT -5
I challenge the so called “campiness “ of STOS. How about some examples? Mostly what Cei-U said. So maybe campy was the wrong word to use. The limited budget and the overacting just exasperated the script issues and the rotation of planets that were just different versions of Earth. Almost like watching Quantum Leap. That pointed ears and a ridge on the forehead made aliens didn't help one take the show seriously even though it was meant to be a serious drama. All that aside, I can still enjoy the episodes from time to time when I am in the mood for them. But I'd never have the desire to own them. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 24, 2020 11:52:12 GMT -5
I adored Quark in DS9....kindred spirit, always looking for profit. A bit short though  I could watch an entire season of just Quark arguing with Odo! No action scene or Cradassian plot required! |
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Post by impulse on Nov 24, 2020 12:14:16 GMT -5
Junkmonkey, not sure how far into it you are, but it DRASTICALLY improved after the first season or two. But your other points remain.
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 24, 2020 12:32:19 GMT -5
Most people seem to feel season three of the original Star Trek was (like Space: 1999 season two) the 'bad egg' of the lot. I kind of like some of the goofy episodes best for rewatching though; Spock's brain stolen, Mudd, Kirk versus Finnegan and the Gorn at those rocks in California, the love planet, vulcan mating season where Spock kills Kirk, witchcraft planet with a sort of baby Q, Clint Howard as Balok, Gary 7 & Terri Garr! We already know how the really well written ones end anyway.
As for Boris, I just didn't understand what he was so darned angry about... he was another in the glut of animal comics for older readers himself after all. Maybe he was just unable to get over Omaha, Erma Felna and Cutey Bunny not wanting him around?
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Post by junkmonkey on Nov 24, 2020 13:09:38 GMT -5
Junkmonkey, not sure how far into it you are, but it DRASTICALLY improved after the first season or two. But your other points remain.
Halfish way through season one. I'll hang in there because, if nothing else, Number One son is enjoying it so much and I'm trying to nudge him into watching Babylon 5 with me (another show which also drastically improved after season one - and a half....).
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Post by EdoBosnar on Nov 24, 2020 14:11:24 GMT -5
Most people seem to feel season three of the original Star Trek was (like Space: 1999 season two) the 'bad egg' of the lot. I kind of like some of the goofy episodes best for rewatching though; Spock's brain stolen, Mudd, Kirk versus Finnegan and the Gorn at those rocks in California, the love planet, vulcan mating season where Spock kills Kirk, witchcraft planet with a sort of baby Q, Clint Howard as Balok, Gary 7 & Terri Garr! We already know how the really well written ones end anyway. (...) I'm not one of that 'most.' I like season 3 just as well as the other two. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 14:57:24 GMT -5
You know you need to go offline for a bit when you put an 'ebay search request' in youtube.
There, I facepalmed myself.
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Post by impulse on Nov 24, 2020 15:37:11 GMT -5
Junkmonkey, not sure how far into it you are, but it DRASTICALLY improved after the first season or two. But your other points remain. Halfish way through season one. I'll hang in there because, if nothing else, Number One son is enjoying it so much and I'm trying to nudge him into watching Babylon 5 with me (another show which also drastically improved after season one - and a half....).
Ohhh, yeah, then I'd recommend sticking it out. That first season and frankly part of 2 can drag. TNG can go from amazing to nearly unwatchable on a dime, but overall is very good. |
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Post by junkmonkey on Nov 24, 2020 15:38:46 GMT -5
You know you need to go offline for a bit when you put an 'ebay search request' in youtube.
There, I facepalmed myself.
I tried to tun my monitor off with my cursor the other day. You know the physical button on the bottom right of the monitor? I tried to click it. |
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Post by berkley on Nov 24, 2020 17:18:02 GMT -5
Kevin Sorbo's presence was a turn-off for me when it came to Andromeda and I saw only a few episodes here and there over the years. Love Lexa Doig as the ship, though. Did she get much screen-time or was it a relatively minor part?
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Post by junkmonkey on Nov 24, 2020 19:03:51 GMT -5
Kevin Sorbo's presence was a turn-off for me when it came to Andromeda and I saw only a few episodes here and there over the years. Love Lexa Doig as the ship, though. Did she get much screen-time or was it a relatively minor part?
Quite a chunk. Sometimes more than once simultaneously as different avatars of her AI interact.
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Post by berkley on Nov 24, 2020 21:28:02 GMT -5
Kevin Sorbo's presence was a turn-off for me when it came to Andromeda and I saw only a few episodes here and there over the years. Love Lexa Doig as the ship, though. Did she get much screen-time or was it a relatively minor part?
Quite a chunk. Sometimes more than once simultaneously as different avatars of her AI interact.
That might be enoigh to get me to give it a try some time down the road. I know a few SF-fan friends of mine liked it at the time, along with Stargate, another one I didn't see much of.
I know Lexa Doig more from domestic Canadian shows like Arctic Air, which I highly recommend if it's available outside Canada.
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Post by Confessor on Nov 24, 2020 21:46:58 GMT -5
Star Trek: TOS is the only Trek-related show that I have any time for. I'm currently working my way through all three series (I'm nearing the end of Series 2 at the moment). I agree that there are some hokey episodes, but by and large the stories are fantastic (in the first two series especially). What it lacks in big budget or slick special effects, it more than makes up for in the chemistry between Spock, Kirk and McCoy. Having watched random episodes of ST:TNG, DS9, ST:Voyager, and the re-booted film franchise over the years, there's nothing even remotely approaching that kind of character chemistry in any of those spin offs IMHO.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 24, 2020 23:37:19 GMT -5
Star Trek: TOS is the only Trek-related show that I have any time for. I'm currently working my way through all three series (I'm nearing the end of Series 2 at the moment). I agree that there are some hokey episodes, but by and large the stories are fantastic (in the first two series especially). What it lacks in big budget or slick special effects, it more than makes up for in the chemistry between Spock, Kirk and McCoy. Having watched random episodes of ST:TNG, DS9, ST:Voyager, and the re-booted film franchise over the years, there's nothing even remotely approaching that kind of character chemistry in any of those spin offs IMHO. I would tend to agree. I grew up with Trek in syndication, as I was born when the series began; so, I only saw the syndicated reruns, before the movie (plus the Filmation animated series). It has far better writing, to me, as well as the characters. It also has a livelier pace to it. I found Next Gen kind of dull, as they spent a lot of time sitting around conference tables, debating, while danger lurked. Plus, it seemed like half their problems could be solved by initiating a transverse microwave flow, via the frakerzoid transducer, causing the forward array to emit a tachyon sine wave that would reverse the thramostat. Scotty would just cross a couple of wires and Bob's your uncle! I also felt the humor attempts in TOS landed far more often than Next Gen and the later shows. I tried out the later stuff; but could never get into them. Babylon 5 pulled me in, but not much else, sci-fi wise, other than Red Dwarf, for different reasons. I'd rather watch the real Quark (with Richard Benjamin and Tim Tomerson) than the DS9 Quark. I'd also agree that there were some good season 3 episodes and some of them are favorites, but far more of mine are from the first two. I'm quite partial to "The Enterprise Incident," "Day of the Dove," "The Savage Curtain," "Whom Gods destroy," and "All Our Yesterdays." "Plato's Stepchildren" I like for Michael Dunn; but am so-so on the episode, itself. |
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Post by Duragizer on Nov 25, 2020 2:26:14 GMT -5
Quite a chunk. Sometimes more than once simultaneously as different avatars of her AI interact.
That might be enoigh to get me to give it a try some time down the road. I know a few SF-fan friends of mine liked it at the time, along with Stargate, another one I didn't see much of. If you do decide to check out Andromeda, just know the show takes a nosedive in quality after Robert Hewitt Wolfe's departure. Seasons 3 & 4 are bad; Season 5 is virtually unwatchable. |
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