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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 9, 2016 22:04:24 GMT -5
I know that as an educator I'm supposed to be compassionate, but oh my God some students are just the friggin' worst. It pains me as an educator to see you write that. |
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Post by Gene on Feb 9, 2016 22:13:39 GMT -5
I know that as an educator I'm supposed to be compassionate, but oh my God some students are just the friggin' worst. It pains me as an educator to see you write that. Ever have to explain to a dean why a student brought their father to campus to fight you? |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 9, 2016 22:16:17 GMT -5
It pains me as an educator to see you write that. Ever have to explain to a dean why a student brought their father to campus to fight you? Ouch! But it does sound like an interesting story. |
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Post by Gene on Feb 9, 2016 22:22:32 GMT -5
Ever have to explain to a dean why a student brought their father to campus to fight you? Ouch! But it does sound like an interesting story. I can't get too into it for obvious reasons, but yeah, the friggin' worst. For the most part, though, most of the students I get are pretty great. The biggest challenge is getting them to understand that a college level art course takes just as much effort as any other college level course. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 9, 2016 22:22:37 GMT -5
It pains me as an educator to see you write that. Ever have to explain to a dean why a student brought their father to campus to fight you? No. Had a student threaten to kill me once. |
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Post by Gene on Feb 9, 2016 22:23:44 GMT -5
Ever have to explain to a dean why a student brought their father to campus to fight you? No. Had a student threaten to kill me once. Damn. I'll give you that one. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 9, 2016 22:46:42 GMT -5
Ever have to explain to a dean why a student brought their father to campus to fight you? No. Had a student threaten to kill me once. Only once. I've been threatened so many times it just rolls off now. Too be fair...I work with criminals. |
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Post by Gene on Feb 9, 2016 22:50:15 GMT -5
To push the idea further, there's also the question of what exactly our roles in the classroom are. In most cases, potential disciplinary situations can be turned into teachable moments. If someone plagiarizes a paper or is disruptive in class, there's a lot that can be done to turn that student around before you have to go through any official channels. If there's a threat of or actual attempt at violence, than I'm sorry, but that person needs to be removed from the situation.
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Post by realjla on Feb 10, 2016 1:12:53 GMT -5
To push the idea further, there's also the question of what exactly our roles in the classroom are. In most cases, potential disciplinary situations can be turned into teachable moments. If someone plagiarizes a paper or is disruptive in class, there's a lot that can be done to turn that student around before you have to go through any official channels. If there's a threat of or actual attempt at violence, than I'm sorry, but that person needs to be removed from the situation. Agreed. Your first example of 'turning around' a disruption in class reminds me of something my high-school Spanish teacher did with a 'wise guy'. The student (who already spoke Spanish)was talking and ignoring the lecture, and the teacher said, in Spanish, that he was 'getting bored with this.' The student said, also in Spanish, 'Me too!' So the teacher sent the guy to the principal's office, and suspended him for a few days. When he came back, the teacher 'switched places', and the kid 'taught' the class...while the teacher sat in the kid's seat, and goofed around. The rest of us 'clowned' on both the 'new teacher' and the 'new old guy' in class, and, by the end of the period, all was cool, the two of them shook hands. and, while I wouldn't say the kid never said another word in class, the relationship between the two was better for the rest of the semester. |
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Post by Spike-X on Feb 10, 2016 3:36:07 GMT -5
Not everybody loves Raymond.
There, I said it.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 10, 2016 5:20:13 GMT -5
Not everybody loves Raymond. There, I said it. But i loved him in the show "Men of a certain Age". |
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Post by realjla on Feb 10, 2016 5:56:51 GMT -5
I didn't love Raymond, either...and would have liked 'Men of a Certain Age' more if he hadn't been a certain age.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 10, 2016 8:39:05 GMT -5
Raymond was a whiny, mother-worshipping, wife-hating, puerile narcissist. (Granted, that's based on my watching just a few episodes here and there. That's all I could bear.)
Take away the laugh track and the mugging for the camera and it would be an Albee play about the nightmare that is the American family.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Feb 10, 2016 9:23:31 GMT -5
Nope, couldn't stand Raymond either.
But I'll go one step further and say I can't stand Seinfeld either. I just don't find him or the show funny.
There, I said it.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 10, 2016 10:13:06 GMT -5
Not a particularly new insight, but I wonder, Is any "reality" show real? Can we trust anything we see anymore?
Don't want to venture into the realm of quantum mechanics where people like me are immediately in over their heads, but don't the presence of observers and cameras change what might have happened otherwise?
Are there any "reality" shows not retro-fitted to suit an outcome already established (House Hunters, Swamp People, Hippo vs. Croc and the like), or, like My 600-Pound Life, Hoarders, and Housewives of Wherever, edited to achieve whatever it is the particular show thrives on -- pathos, scandal, angst, melodrama, shock?
Are sports events and the news exempt? I don't think so. Not only can the observers manipulate what we see, the observed can also. (Witness passers-by interrupting live shots.) Remember the opening for the old TV show, The Outer Limits? "We are controlling transmission. We control the horizontal, etc."
And on a related note, with movies adopting the techniques and style of video games, and CGI effects the norm rather than the exception, old movies, with their comparatively crude effects, actually seem more "real" to me than the supposed verisimiltude created by computers. In Stagecoach and Raiders, real guys risked their lives beneath a runaway stagecoach and a speeding truck.
This hit me first when I was watching the enormous battle scenes in either Two Towers or Return of the King -- they blur together -- and far from being in awe, I was bored, really, because I was well aware that these legions of elephant monsters, trolls, orcs, etc. were fake. They did not look even remotely real to me and I felt as if I were watching Grand Theft Kingdom.
Meanwhile, in the most cheaply produced Westerns of the 30s, actual guys were falling off horses, riding off cliffs, and leaing onto passing stagecoaches. In Olivier's 1944 Henry V, there were hundreds of real horsemen galloping across the screen. In Ben Hur, real guys raced real chariots.
There. Don't know if I've said anything, really, but I said it.
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