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Post by comicscube on Jul 14, 2014 23:02:25 GMT -5
Byrne was my first favorite artist, and I do have to wonder what happened to his style. The proportions got wackier (pretty much around the time he did Wonder Woman, the heads got too big, for one) and the line is just scratchier.
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Post by travishedgecoke on Jul 15, 2014 0:09:08 GMT -5
Byrne was my first favorite artist, and I do have to wonder what happened to his style. The proportions got wackier (pretty much around the time he did Wonder Woman, the heads got too big, for one) and the line is just scratchier. I actually like the different styles. Byrne's not necessarily an innovator, but he's been hugely willing to experiment away from his own style or standards. He went from an incredibly smooth line, to favoring lots of little, rounded kinda wavy strokes, to scratchy almost-Larsen. He perfected rubberband mouth and then stopped doing it. He still tries to vary up his game. |
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Post by comicscube on Jul 15, 2014 0:48:25 GMT -5
Byrne was my first favorite artist, and I do have to wonder what happened to his style. The proportions got wackier (pretty much around the time he did Wonder Woman, the heads got too big, for one) and the line is just scratchier. I actually like the different styles. Byrne's not necessarily an innovator, but he's been hugely willing to experiment away from his own style or standards. He went from an incredibly smooth line, to favoring lots of little, rounded kinda wavy strokes, to scratchy almost-Larsen. He perfected rubberband mouth and then stopped doing it. He still tries to vary up his game. I think I'd appreciate it if it didn't look to me like it was just the natural devolution of his old style, is the thing. |
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Post by comicscube on Jul 15, 2014 0:50:56 GMT -5
That's actually it, now that I think about it. Even his Generations stuff, which my brain knows is Byrne trying to ape the old styles, just kind of looks enough like old Byrne for me to really get into the pastiche portions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 1:12:02 GMT -5
I think a lot of how Byrne's art looks comes down to the inker. I think he's at his best when finished by the likes of Terry Austin. However, when Byrne inks himself, he tends to just do the barest layouts in pencil and essentially does all the art ink first, leading, to my eye, a rougher, less appealing look that is a lot sketchier, and less complete than when he is pencilling for someone else to ink and actually has to put thought and effort into the pencilling stage of the art.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 8:31:28 GMT -5
Yes, Byrne should not ink himself
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Post by bashbash99 on Jul 16, 2014 11:00:59 GMT -5
Since I was just looking at Secret Wars covers in another thread, I'd like to see Mike Zeck come back, I particularly liked his Captain America stint so I'd like Beatty to ink his work. I think Zeck would've thrived more in todays comics where meeting deadlines seems secondary to producing the best artwork you can.
There are some artists/writers probably still doing stuff that I'm just unaware of, but I'll suggest:
Paul Smith
David Mazzucchelli
Steve Bissette & Jon Totleben (what a combo!)
Michael Golden (altho I guess he's more associated with the 70s.. still the Nam was 80s)
Sal Buscema (at age 78 that's a pretty big stretch tho)
I'll probably think of more later. Of the list above, Mazzuchelli would be my top choice, followed by Bissette & Totleben
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 16, 2014 19:19:27 GMT -5
I think a lot of how Byrne's art looks comes down to the inker. I think he's at his best when finished by the likes of Terry Austin. However, when Byrne inks himself, he tends to just do the barest layouts in pencil and essentially does all the art ink first, leading, to my eye, a rougher, less appealing look that is a lot sketchier, and less complete than when he is pencilling for someone else to ink and actually has to put thought and effort into the pencilling stage of the art. -M This exactly. DC & Marvel aren't going to bring those talents back except maybe for a mini or a cover, unfortunately. Frank Miller isn't the same person he used to be either but I'd love to have him back doing his own stuff again. I'd love to see Keith Giffen go indie and do the Kirby Genesis revival at Dynamite. Let him go nuts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 19:22:23 GMT -5
DC or Marvel would bring Byrne back in a second, he's the one that has sworn them off.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 19, 2014 21:17:00 GMT -5
I know it's him, but dang, he needs to forgive and move on. There's a whole generation his ego is missing out on !
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