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Post by shaxper on Feb 8, 2016 20:35:46 GMT -5
One thing that continually impresses me about the Usagi series is his progression as a character throughout the years. I've commented before in these discussions about his evolving morality from 1984 to the present. Keeping that in mind, what do we make of the death of Gunichi all these years later? In 1987, it was pretty much the coolest beginning to a first issue ever depicted on the comic page. It wasn't just brilliantly cinematic, bold in its absence of words, and ingenious in its building of suspense and mystery; it most importantly framed the entire world of Usagi Yojimbo. Like Gen, we waited five issues to find out what this character could have possibly done to deserve to be killed, especially after learning the friend he had been to Usagi, and the answer was a harsh and shocking lesson that Usagi belonged to a different world than ours, complete with a different morality code and sense of honor. In many ways, that isn't who Usagi is anymore. So, if that meeting hadn't occurred so many years back, and the Usagi of today met Gunichi now, would he still fight and kill him? Or would he have walked away, as he did in the Death of Lord Hikiji? (note: STILL my favorite first issue to a series ever!)
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Feb 8, 2016 20:45:36 GMT -5
I was just thinking about this the other day. I don't think he would kill Gunichi today. Back then, Usagi was a lot like Koji in a way; a true samurai, devoted to honor according to the samurai code. Today, he has a much different moral sense. He doesn't pursue vendettas, even against Hikiji (although I suspect he might kill Hikiji if given the chance). Interesting question.
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Post by shaxper on Feb 8, 2016 21:02:45 GMT -5
Today, he has a much different moral sense. He doesn't pursue vendettas, even against Hikiji (although I suspect he might kill Hikiji if given the chance). Interesting question. Of course, he also had a specific justification for not killing Hikiji. In that story, we're given the new (if convenient) information that Lord Mifune commanded his retainers not to pursue vengeance in the event of his death; that wouldn't apply to retainers who had betrayed him. So maybe it would be a different circumstance? Obviously, I'm not sure, or I wouldn't have asked the question
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Post by dhfujii on Feb 10, 2016 2:36:43 GMT -5
I feel like Usagi wouldn't kill Hikiji if the man was unarmed. I can just see the conflict and rage in his face. However, if Hikiji was a tyrant or planning something evil, he'd either kill him or prevent him from moving forward. Also, Hikiji strikes me as the type of guy who would stab you in the back when you turn around...in which case Usagi would kill him via self defense and the fact that it would be ultimate dishonor.
As for Gunichi, I feel like they couldn't help but fight. They didn't even exchange words, they just knew that this had to happen. It would almost be like Gunichi himself couldn't help but try to kill Usagi to hide his shame. After all, Usagi is the only one in the world (I think) who knows that he betrayed his Lord. So, if he had ANY Samurai pride left in him, he'd try to at least eliminate the memory of the "sin." Ultimately, he would get killed.
If he was unarmed, I'm not sure Usagi would kill him. That's a tough call. Maybe he'd un-arm him. lol
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Post by shaxper on Feb 10, 2016 5:16:45 GMT -5
It would almost be like Gunichi himself couldn't help but try to kill Usagi to hide his shame. After all, Usagi is the only one in the world (I think) who knows that he betrayed his Lord. So, if he had ANY Samurai pride left in him, he'd try to at least eliminate the memory of the "sin." Ultimately, he would get killed. That's a fantastic point You could view the death of Gunichi as the inevitability of karma, in a sense; Usagi simply acting as its agent.
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