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Post by bor on Oct 10, 2017 12:09:30 GMT -5
I have been reading one of the Spider-man Epics (The Goblins last stand)Which as you might have guessed contains all the issues leading up to Gwen´s death. Right now I have about 6 or so issues left in it. I am really enjoying it but a lot of these issues I read not that long ago in Essential version. After this one I am moving on to the next one which I am really looking forward to: Spider-man epic: Kravens last hunt. I love those early '70s Gerry Conway issues of ASM a lot too. Oh, and Kraven's Last Hunt is also really good. It made a hell of an impression on me as a 14 year old when it came out. Yeah they are. The whole plotline with the political candidate did go on a little bit long for my taste but in general its been fun. I am looking forward to the next epic too. I have read Kraven`s Last hunt plenty of times and I like every time, but there are also some issues in it where its been years since I read last time and in some cases looking through there are some I dont remember at all. I dont know if I actually have read all these or not but if I have I clearly dont remember.
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Post by Jesse on Oct 10, 2017 13:36:33 GMT -5
Power Man #48 by Chris Claremont and John Byrne I'm not exactly sure but this may be the first time Luke Cage meets Danny Rand, Misty Knight and Coleen Wing. This issue is epic non-stop action as he fights all three of them to the point where Rand's home is completely demolished. Of course the title character isn't really the badguy and he's being forced to do so to save his friends. I'm looking forward to reading the conclusion.
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Post by Jesse on Oct 10, 2017 13:48:38 GMT -5
The Sub Mariner #52-54by Bill Everett This three issue story arc features the appearance of the hotheaded mutant Sunfire. I enjoyed this because it reminded me of his Golden Age fight then team-up with the original Human Torch. In this though Sunfire is collaborating with the villain until his destructive plot is revealed. While I really didn't care for the depiction of the big bad this was a fun story arc. There's also a back up story in the final issue that's actually more fun than the conclusion where Namor meets an attractive mermaid but is lured into a trap by other mutants. He promises to protect them but after they are met with prejudice from other Atlanteans they leave.
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Post by Confessor on Oct 11, 2017 6:07:48 GMT -5
I finished reading The Ballad of Halo Jones by Alan Moore and Ian Gibson a few nights back. It's a gently entertaining and thought-provoking story, which follows the adventures of a young, 50th-century woman (and those adventures include something as seemingly pedestrian as going shopping at one point) who longs to escape her mundane life and travel the galaxy. Just like with Charley's War in the pages of Battle Picture Weekly, the Halo Jones strip used to bore me silly when it was appearing in 2000 AD back in the '80s, but again, just like Charley's War, I've found a new appreciation for the strip upon re-reading it as an adult. Not that Halo Jones is a patch on the masterpiece that is Charley's War, of course, but it's certainly much, much better than I recall it being back in the mid-80s. Halo Jones herself is a fairly vanilla protagonist, to be honest, who is upstaged by a lot of the strip's supporting cast for much of the time. She's not always the most sympathetic character either, despite clearly having a good heart: she makes mistakes, she does stupid things, and she can be very self-absorbed. But therein lies much of her appeal: she's a true "everywoman", as opposed to one with special powers or special character traits. I can quite see why some commentators have called Halo Jones the first feminist comic character. Moore does an awful lot of world building in the strip too, but he never panders to the reader with much in the way of explanations. You're dropped right into the 50th-century and left to figure out the jargon and other references for yourself -- which is a simultaneously confusing and highly rewarding experience. Ian Gibson's art is of its usual, highly stylised quality, and you'll either love it or hate it, depending on your tastes. Myself, I'm definitely a "lover", but I can totally see that it wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea. Overall, I found this to be a quietly entertaining and comforting read. There's really not much in the way of traditional sci-fi action in The Ballad of Halo Jones (although she does get embroiled in a planetary war in the third book), so if you're looking for big explosions and alien monsters then this probably isn't for you. However, I feel that the strip more than makes up for that with moments of real emotional insight and some surprisingly heartbreaking elements too, such as with the character of Glyph; this asexual and pathetically fragile character, who has undergone gender reassignment so many times that it doesn't know what sex it was originally, is routinely and rather callously ignored by Halo and the other supporting cast members, even when Glyph is saving their lives. The Ballad of Halo Jones is definitely one of Moore's more minor works, but it's also one of his most human and, because of that, it's found an unexpected place fairly close to my heart.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 12, 2017 18:20:41 GMT -5
I finished Astro City: The Dark Age a few days ago. I've read a lot of really really good Astro City stories, like the first Steeljack story arc, the second issue of the original limited series, the Confessor storyline, a couple of those Jack in the Box stories. But I think The Dark Age has a very good chance of being my favorite Astro City storyline. Mostly because it had longevity going for it. It's more like a regular comic book in that respect. It's 16 issues, and that's quite a respectable run. Not that there aren't a lot of great short story arcs under the Astro City banner. But when I was reading The Dark Age, it felt a lot more like reading a regular comic book - 16 issues with the same characters! Even if they weren't super-heroes. The Dark Age is pretty impressive in a lot of ways. The points of views of the Williams brothers. The cosmic aspect and the inclusion of characters like Apollo 11. The "street justice" characters like the Blue Knight. Busiek did a great job of incorporating all these aspects of Bronze Age comics and then finding a compelling story - the drawn-out revenge of the Williams brothers - to hang it on.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 12, 2017 21:55:55 GMT -5
I just read the Superman vs. Wonder Woman treasury. Amazing. I loved it. As most may know, Superman is not my cup of tea but it was a beautiful thing to read. The artwork was fantastic and the story was very entertaining.
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 13, 2017 7:35:39 GMT -5
I just read the Superman vs. Wonder Woman treasury. Amazing. I loved it. As most may know, Superman is not my cup of tea but it was a beautiful thing to read. The artwork was fantastic and the story was very entertaining. I got my copy autographed by Garcia-Lopez at this year's Emerald City Con. Cei-U! I summon the treasured treasury!
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 13, 2017 12:42:20 GMT -5
I'm up to Sub-Mariner #33. Byrrah, Dr. Dorcas and Krang return! And Namor puts them in their place! This issue ends with Namor and Dorma announcing that they are now - finally! - engaged. Thus prompting one of the big mistakes that Marvel made with some of their secondary character in the late 1960s and early 1970s. They decided to kill Dorma rather than tie Namor down. I'm not sure what issue it happens in or any of the circumstances because I've never read that one. I can see sort of see the reasoning, that tying Namor to Dorma would put a damper on the free-wheeling Namor, who is used to neglecting the kingdom and wandering around and fighting underwater villains and occasionally being abducted by Dr. Doom. And the romantic attachment between Namor and Dorma had just gone on for so long and really wasn't going anywhere. So ... get them engaged and kill Dorma. I think it happened on their wedding day. I think there were other options. Develop Dorma's character. Give her the power of regency (as Namor's queen) over Atlantis when Namor's away. Come up with some Atlantis ritual that Dorma must go on before she gets married. I can think of a lot ways around these problems. I feel that getting rid of Dorma was problematic in ways that getting rid of Gwen Stacy wasn't. I still think that killing Gwen was kind of lazy, but Spider-Man was a great series after they did that, with Peter having a much better reason than usual for being depressed. But the real strength of the aftermath of Gwen's death was Spidey's supporting cast. Mary jane was the go-to love interest, but they could have developed a relationship with old flame Betty Brant or brought back Liz Allan. And there are plenty of other supporting characters to provide the drama and the complications in Peter's life - Jameson, Aunt May, Flash, Harry. But Dorma - she's not quite the only supporting character in the series, but she's just about the only one with any longevity (as of 1970 or so) who can really provide the substance that a comic book hero needs. The other Atlantis-based characters - Ikthon, Seth and Vashti - all have their uses but they just can't compare with the history that Namor and Dorma had together. In the air-breathing world, Diane Arliss had been around a lot, and I like her, but I think Namor always needs a really strong Atlantic-based character to really play off of. I guess Namor did OK after the death of Dorma - or did he? The series lasted a few more years, and when it was canceled, he was in Super-Villain Team-Up ... for 15 issues. But the future success (or lack of it) of his series is not what I'm talking about. I think Dorma had a lot of potential as a character who could have been very interesting if developed. I think all comic book heroes benefit greatly from having long-term relationships of one kind or another with their supporting characters. Superman needs Lois. Batman needs Alfred. The Thing needs Alicia. Dorma had been around since Marvel Mystery Comics #1 in 1939! (I didn't know that. I thought her first appearance was the first Fantastic Four Annual and I was double-checking that online.) I don't think she appeared that much during the Golden Age, but she was there. Her death seems like a kind of knee-jerk reaction from a writer who didn't really want to deal with her. Its a darn shame!
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 13, 2017 15:37:01 GMT -5
I've been meaning to re-read the "Under Siege" storyline from The Avengers #273 to #277 for some months now. Definitely a Marvel highlight for the last year that I was reading bunches and bunches of comics. Maybe the best storyline from Marvel in the immediate post-Bronze Age era. I've also been wanting to read a couple of the storylines from late Silver Age Marvel, the Masters of Evil story in #54 and #55 and the Lethal Legion story in #78 and #79. I love these guys, these street-level bruisers who have to gather en masse to even have a chance - the Melter, Whirlwind, the Radioactive Man, Klaw, the Grim Reaper, the Man-Ape, the Swordsman, the Living Laser, Power Man, and so on, to an even bigger bunch of baddies in "Under Siege." I read all these Silver Age comics over these last few days. Such fun! And I read the first part of "Under Siege" just a little bit ago. It's as great as I remember! And I had forgotten that it's the exact same art team as #78 and #79!
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Post by brutalis on Oct 13, 2017 17:05:11 GMT -5
This is one of my earliest Avengers issues. Found it and #52 and #62 bagged together as used copies at a Salvation Army. These along with early Marvel Triple Action reprints were what made me an Avenger's fan for life. for the longest time until the 80's and LCS's came into town I was missing out on issue 78. True Silver age Greatness!!!
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Post by Rob Allen on Oct 13, 2017 18:12:30 GMT -5
This cover qualifies for this week's cover contest.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Oct 14, 2017 8:48:43 GMT -5
The Brave and the Bold #135This may be when Haney official jumped the shark. The gist of the story is that Ruby Ryder has hatched a plot to inherit the estate of a long dead scientist by placing a robot duplicate of a "humanoid" created by said scientist in a time capsule placed their by, yep, the dead scientist. Unfortunately the real humanoid was somehow in suspended animation beneath the capsule, awakens, and immediately destroys the robot. Batman and the Metal Men link the robot to Ryder, but Ryder has seduced the real humanoid and succeeds in proving to a court (in a hilarious scene) that the humanoid is human and should have legal rights, thus allowing him to inherit his creators estate. The story ends with Ryder and the Humanoid claiming that Wayne built his building on the scientists original property, making it theirs. What really makes this story so absurd is how Haney writes Batman. First, he inexplicably has the hots for Ruby Ryder during this story (the same one that tried to kill Plastic Man awhile back) and actually gets jealous when she seduces the humanoid. What really took me out of the story was Batman failing to notice a giant robot holing a large parchment. The robot is clearly holding a parchment that's the will that Ryder will later use to prove the legal claims, but Batman doesn't notice it and even fails to notice it after its been examined in the Metal Men lab! The real humanoid comes back and steals it, out of its hand, while its lying on the table. Batman's excuse to Gordon when the humanoid steals it is that "In all the excitement, I never checked what was on it!" The World's Greatest Detective, folks. I enjoy it when Haney is creative and a bit wacky, but this is just too much. Aparo's art is as stellar as ever and he deserves better than this.
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 14, 2017 9:06:47 GMT -5
Blasphemy! Bob Haney never jumped the shark!
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Okay, he did, all the time, including this story and its follow-up, but he's still my favorite comics writer.
Cei-U! I defend the indefensible!
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Post by urrutiap on Oct 14, 2017 23:26:08 GMT -5
Just a half hour ago tonight just now whatever I re-read my copies of Marvel Milestone Incredible Hulk # 1 and Spider Man Classic # 1.
Anyone know if the Gargoyle was brought back to life or not?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 14, 2017 23:52:14 GMT -5
Just a half hour ago tonight just now whatever I re-read my copies of Marvel Milestone Incredible Hulk # 1 and Spider Man Classic # 1. Anyone know if the Gargoyle was brought back to life or not? Unless he's reappeared in the last few years, no he has not.
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