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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 21, 2020 2:34:31 GMT -5
It's been a long time since I've read the mini-series but I recall it being a major let-down. This is totally subjective, I've never read anything that supports it, e.g. a quote from the artist himself or someone who worked with him, but I've always had the feeling that by the time he started working for DC Colan wasn't really much interested in drawing superheroes any more. His work in other genres looks consistently and markedly superior to me from some time in the mid to late 70s onwards, so actually a little before he moved to DC.
He'll always be my number 1 Daredevil artist, though. And probably shares the top rank with Ditko and Brunner for my favourite Doctor Strange artist.
It's how you feel but I thought he was born to draw Batman.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 21, 2020 8:58:40 GMT -5
Just read Sad Sack's Army Life Parade #6. 1965Not my usual fare but I picked it up a while ago for maybe 50 cents. It consists of many stories ranging from one to three page stories, usually about Sack being a screw up. I will admit I laughed out loud three times. Its was a welcome diversion from the pandemic, civil unrest that seems to surround us these days. 5/10
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 21, 2020 9:05:23 GMT -5
I have never read a Sad Sack comic, a gaping void in my comics-reading cred that I'm gonna have to correct one of these days.
Cei-U! I summon the true confession!
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 21, 2020 9:07:07 GMT -5
I have never read a Sad Sack comic, a gaping void in my comics-reading cred that I'm gonna have to correct one of these days. Cei-U! I summon the true confession! I'd be happy to send you this one.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 21, 2020 14:15:26 GMT -5
I just read Secret Origins #6 by Roy/Dann Thomas and Gene Colan. It was really good! It's go me wanting to read the Crimson Avenger miniseries by the Thomases. It's been a long time since I've read the mini-series but I recall it being a major let-down. Aww man! Well, I'll probably still check it out anyway, and my expectations are now lower, so that may help me like it better.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 21, 2020 14:19:45 GMT -5
This is totally subjective, I've never read anything that supports it, e.g. a quote from the artist himself or someone who worked with him, but I've always had the feeling that by the time he started working for DC Colan wasn't really much interested in drawing superheroes any more. His work in other genres looks consistently and markedly superior to me from some time in the mid to late 70s onwards, so actually a little before he moved to DC.
He'll always be my number 1 Daredevil artist, though. And probably shares the top rank with Ditko and Brunner for my favourite Doctor Strange artist.
It's how you feel but I thought he was born to draw Batman. I general think Colan is not a good fit for superhero comics (e.g., his Wonder Woman from the 80's I really didn't like at all) as opposed to his wonderful work on horror-type stuff, but I do think that he's a good fit for certain types of superheroes. Namely, street level, creature-of-the-night, noirish type of characters. I like his Daredevil stuff (plus DD has sort of a horror-themed costume) and also on this Crimson Avenger story, and while I've never seen his Batman work, I'll bet it's good. However, I think he'd be a lousy choice for something like All-Star Squadron or the Justice League.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 21, 2020 14:24:06 GMT -5
It's how you feel but I thought he was born to draw Batman. I general think Colan is not a good fit for superhero comics (e.g., his Wonder Woman from the 80's I really didn't like at all) as opposed to his wonderful work on horror-type stuff, but I do think that he's a good fit for certain types of superheroes. Namely, street level, creature-of-the-night, noirish type of characters. I like his Daredevil stuff (plus DD has sort of a horror-themed costume) and also on this Crimson Avenger story, and while I've never seen his Batman work, I'll bet it's good. However, I think he'd be a lousy choice for something like All-Star Squadron or the Justice League. I think I agree. His Avengers issues were lackluster, although I like # 211, the membership issue.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 21, 2020 14:59:05 GMT -5
I general think Colan is not a good fit for superhero comics (e.g., his Wonder Woman from the 80's I really didn't like at all) as opposed to his wonderful work on horror-type stuff, but I do think that he's a good fit for certain types of superheroes. Namely, street level, creature-of-the-night, noirish type of characters. I like his Daredevil stuff (plus DD has sort of a horror-themed costume) and also on this Crimson Avenger story, and while I've never seen his Batman work, I'll bet it's good. However, I think he'd be a lousy choice for something like All-Star Squadron or the Justice League. I think I agree. His Avengers issues were lackluster, although I like # 211, the membership issue. I agree. I didn't much care for his Avengers work, though #211 was the best of the bunch, and #210 was pretty good too.
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Post by tartanphantom on Jul 21, 2020 15:25:47 GMT -5
I have never read a Sad Sack comic, a gaping void in my comics-reading cred that I'm gonna have to correct one of these days. Cei-U! I summon the true confession! blasphemy!
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Post by berkley on Jul 21, 2020 15:33:36 GMT -5
I have never read a Sad Sack comic, a gaping void in my comics-reading cred that I'm gonna have to correct one of these days. Cei-U! I summon the true confession! I read a few when I was a kid, can't recall many details. In my memory they sort of blend in with things like Hot Stuff, Casper the Ghost, Underdog, Archie and a ton of other titles that I would consume and and then completely forget 5 minutes afterwards.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 21, 2020 16:15:29 GMT -5
Just read Sad Sack's Army Life Parade #6. 1965Not my usual fare but I picked it up a while ago for maybe 50 cents. It consists of many stories ranging from one to three page stories, usually about Sack being a screw up. I will admit I laughed out loud three times. Its was a welcome diversion from the pandemic, civil unrest that seems to surround us these days. 5/10 I have a couple of Sad Sacks hidden in my longboxes. I ought to pull them out some time. It's been so long since I've read them, but I seem to recall enjoying them.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 21, 2020 16:16:45 GMT -5
I have never read a Sad Sack comic, a gaping void in my comics-reading cred that I'm gonna have to correct one of these days. Cei-U! I summon the true confession! I read a few when I was a kid, can't recall many details. In my memory they sort of blend in with things like Hot Stuff, Casper the Ghost, Underdog, Archie and a ton of other titles that I would consume and and then completely forget 5 minutes afterwards.I feel that way abut Archie comics.
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Post by berkley on Jul 21, 2020 16:28:14 GMT -5
I read a few when I was a kid, can't recall many details. In my memory they sort of blend in with things like Hot Stuff, Casper the Ghost, Underdog, Archie and a ton of other titles that I would consume and and then completely forget 5 minutes afterwards.I feel that way abut Archie comics. Yeah, Archie never seemed to leave much of an impression on me, though I've seen quite a few of them over the years and could tell you most of the characters' names and so on.
I wonder if it has anything to do with where you're from, or your social background: the world they depicted seemed completely alien to me, not at all like an idealised version of school or teenage life where I grew up. Did it feel different to young US readers, depending on where they lived, etc?
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Post by brutalis on Jul 21, 2020 16:52:33 GMT -5
I read a few when I was a kid, can't recall many details. In my memory they sort of blend in with things like Hot Stuff, Casper the Ghost, Underdog, Archie and a ton of other titles that I would consume and and then completely forget 5 minutes afterwards.I feel that way abut Archie comics. Archie comics. The alzheimers of comics. Every issue is a new issue even if you read it again right after reading it. Actually that is part of the pleasure found in reading Archie comics. You don't invest a lot of mental energy in reads of them so it is more readily available as re-read material. Easily accessible fun without all the drama and headaches of the soap opera elements. You know and recognize all of the characters instantly as familiar friends.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 21, 2020 17:53:39 GMT -5
I remember things about Archie comics decades afterwards... like I remember one in the '70s with a UFO and Bermuda Triangle story, and one about the world from Hot Dog's point of view that was kid of moving, but while I read a fair number of Sad Sacks I can't honestly even remember the name of the dog now, and Sarge was just Sarge I think. There was a female character that looked like Sad Sack himself in a wig named Sadie. That's about it... maybe I just missed the memorable stories?
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