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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Feb 25, 2016 12:03:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I liked the Roy Thomas issues in which baron Mordo had cancer or something. The Midnight sons event might be one of the most egregious example of a good idea atrociously executed I've seen in comics. The house ads for it had me pretty excited (although it sounded as if marvel was trying to ride on Vertigo's coattails without understanding the concept) but the books I read... ugh... even buying them in quarter bins i felt cheated! Oh yeah, I remember my buddy reading those while I was a DC/Vertigo pup, he had me try the Warren Ellis stuff, but in the end I happen to enjoy the Hellstorm issues before Ellis took over way more! But indeed, Ghost Rider, Morbius, Darkhold, Nightstalkers, those were all horribly ploted and structured, impossible to get through when you were presented with Hellblazer, Shade, Sandman etc on the other side... |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 25, 2016 12:23:19 GMT -5
I actually really liked the early 90s Nick Fury series that spun out of Nick Fury vs. SHIELD.
That was quite good! The opening arc was pretty cool, and the series had several high points. Jackson Guice, who took over the art after a while, gave a nice Steranko impression (and a Gene Colan one as well, although that may have been due to the inker's approach). The rebuilding of SHIELD was an interesting story, although it was clear that the poor Fury was repeating the mistakes of the past: making SHIELD too big to be manageable. The resurrected Baron Strucker was a scary mofo in that, what with his remaining alive being the only thing that kept the death spore virus in check... You don't dare kill him! I never knew how the run ended; that happened during of of my comics hiatuses. I assume Fury killed Strucker and that the status quo was restored. (Didn't Kate die too? I don't recall seeing her again after this series). Kate Neville died in the final issue of that series. Baron Strucker has cropped up in numerous places since then. He eventually died in Secret Warriors #27 but has since returned without explanation. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 25, 2016 19:47:11 GMT -5
The Heroes Reborn Iron Man. Recently re-read it and still enjoy it. I also love that suit design. Very anime mecha. Similar to the suits in Wildstorm's Brass. Also, I really enjoyed the David Quinn run on Dr. Strange. Followed by Warren Ellis for 3 issues and then J.M. DeMatteis.  I didn't think it was possible for comic fans to like this run. |
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Post by sabongero on Feb 25, 2016 20:53:31 GMT -5
 Overall I liked the storyarc. But I HATED what they retconned to the Gwen Stacy's character here. But then I found out on a JMS interview that he intended the kids to be Peter Parker's children but that the editorial honchos in Marvel did not want to do it as it would age the Spider-Man character. |
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Post by SJNeal on Feb 25, 2016 23:58:54 GMT -5
Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme #60-90 are some of my favorites as well! I even liked the short arc pictured above, which I thought no one else could stand! The book died far too soon for my tastes, as DeMatteis was on a roll. TBH, I would have been more surprised to see someone admit of being a fan of the previous 59 issues of that run, as you all are refering to the time when it began to get some attention beyond mere doc Strange fans... The first 59 are indeed a mixed bag. The series started with Gillis wrapping up his Strange Tales (v2) run, which was okay, but Roy & Dann Thomas' early stuff was a bit better. All the Infinity crossovers ate up a good portion of the rest. They were good in the context of crossover tie-ins, but still derailed the overall narrative. Geoff Isherwood's art never failed to impress, however... |
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Post by foxley on Feb 26, 2016 3:20:17 GMT -5
TBH, I would have been more surprised to see someone admit of being a fan of the previous 59 issues of that run, as you all are refering to the time when it began to get some attention beyond mere doc Strange fans... The first 59 are indeed a mixed bag. The series started with Gillis wrapping up his Strange Tales (v2) run, which was okay, but Roy & Dann Thomas' early stuff was a bit better. All the Infinity crossovers ate up a good portion of the rest. They were good in the context of crossover tie-ins, but still derailed the overall narrative. Geoff Isherwood's art never failed to impress, however... Roy and Dann's run was the only the time I read Doctor Strange regularly. I really enjoyed the back-up feature (called something like "Pages from the Darkhold", I think?) where Roy would explore the history of some supernatural aspect of the Marvel Universe, like vampires, or the Frankenstein Monster, or voodoo. |
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Post by ziza9 on Feb 26, 2016 13:45:29 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Ghost Rider book, more pre-Midnight Sons than after. I really wanted to follow the Midnight Sons but found it dissapointing overall. I liked the initial opening storyline with Lilith. But I agree the long term execution was lacking. I felt that Marvel was going for more of a Clive Barker light type of horror with that line as opposed to an exact Vertigo copy. More straight up Fangoria meets superheroes level of horror. It didn't work, but I remember Darkhold having some good bits and ideas.
It was outside of that sphere, but I love to this day that Ellis run on Hellstorm. I really like the pre Ellis issues a lot as well.
As for the Dr. Strange run(s) mentioned above, I need to sit down and re-read that soon.
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Post by ziza9 on Feb 26, 2016 13:48:40 GMT -5
The Heroes Reborn Iron Man. Recently re-read it and still enjoy it. I also love that suit design. Very anime mecha. Similar to the suits in Wildstorm's Brass. Also, I really enjoyed the David Quinn run on Dr. Strange. Followed by Warren Ellis for 3 issues and then J.M. DeMatteis. I didn't think it was possible for comic fans to like this run. This makes me smile. It means I contributed correctly to the thread if someone is shocked by the choice. Haha. There was just something about it. I was just out of college, hanging in Greenwich Village a lot. The book seemed to fit, to work on some level somehow. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 26, 2016 14:52:41 GMT -5
I really liked the black armor story arc in Daredevil. Not all of it, I'll admit, but a lot more than I expected. The focus on data encryption, years before it became a trendy subject, was a nice change of pace and that costume design was very nice! It could never replace the all-red look, I know. But it was still cool as can be!  |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Feb 26, 2016 16:03:56 GMT -5
I actually really liked the early 90s Nick Fury series that spun out of Nick Fury vs. SHIELD.
Jackson Guice, who took over the art after a while, gave a nice Steranko impression (and a Gene Colan one as well, although that may have been due to the inker's approach). I'm pretty sure the Colanesque look of much of Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. #23 was down to Guice and not the inker, Doug Hazlewood. I can't recall Hazlewood making any other artists look like Colan, whereas Guice has a history of producing work heavily influenced by (or swiped from) many sources, including Michael Golden, Jack Kirby, Neal Adams, Ross Andru, John Buscema and various photos, most infamously of Amy Grant. I think I've seen it suggested that Guice had wanted to draw in Colan's style full time, but his editors stopped him. I've not read it yet, but I think Guice's version of the Black Widow in Winter Soldier may have been derived from Colan's Daredevil work. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 26, 2016 21:06:17 GMT -5
Looking at the Daredevil post made me remember I really liked the Cap-in-Iron-Man-Suit story like... Fighting Chance maybe it was called?
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Post by sabongero on Feb 26, 2016 21:08:58 GMT -5
Looking at the Daredevil post made me remember I really liked the Cap-in-Iron-Man-Suit story like... Fighting Chance maybe it was called? By any chance was the design of the Iron Suit for cap the same one that Norman Osborn used as leader of the Dark Avengers? |
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 26, 2016 21:14:49 GMT -5
Looking at the Daredevil post made me remember I really liked the Cap-in-Iron-Man-Suit story like... Fighting Chance maybe it was called? Yeah, that suit design is probably one of my favorites and the need for it made sense because Steve's Super Soldier serum was taking it's toll on his body |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 26, 2016 21:15:03 GMT -5
You mean Iron Patriot? Not at all.... here you go.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 26, 2016 21:26:57 GMT -5
Looking at the Daredevil post made me remember I really liked the Cap-in-Iron-Man-Suit story like... Fighting Chance maybe it was called? Ha. I really like that run also. I try to re-read it every year. |
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