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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Feb 20, 2016 9:30:39 GMT -5
You forget the most famous one : Star Lord With 2000AD  |
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Post by MDG on Feb 20, 2016 9:45:07 GMT -5
Not quite the same thing, but making Batman a constant in Brave and Bold.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 13:04:19 GMT -5
My memory is fuzzy on this but I think in the 70s there had been a Bullpen Bulletins announcement about Black Widow getting her own title. Instead she got cover billing with Daredevil. Were Daredevil sales bad enough that the book was about to be cancelled which explains adding Black Widow to the cover? Same question about adding Falcon to the Capt. America title? I wouldn't be surprised if DDs sales were of concern...I read they were floundering in the late 70s and if it wasn't for Frank Miller giving it a major shot in the arm, it might have been cancelled altogether. But sales in the 70s were still high compared to current day numbers, with some A-list characters having books that struggle to sell over 30,000 copies. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 20, 2016 18:33:40 GMT -5
Yeah, Daredevil and Iron Man were gonna be merged at one point - I believe it was a split book not a two-in-one book, though.
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Post by MDG on Feb 21, 2016 11:52:50 GMT -5
Yeah, Daredevil and Iron Man were gonna be merged at one point - I believe it was a split book not a two-in-one book, though. Which reminds me of when Green Lantern was stuck in the back of The Flash for a while. Also, how about when GL got his book taken away to "anchor" Action Comics Weekly? |
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Post by coke & comics on Feb 21, 2016 14:02:38 GMT -5
Only lasted an issue before giving each their own series, but along those lines..  Maybe that's an example of the opposite of this thread's question? A shotgun divorce? |
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Post by Mormel on Feb 21, 2016 15:24:24 GMT -5
^The character box in the top left corner makes it look like Subby is throwing Iron Man's helmet like a volley ball. Either commit to headshots or full-body miniatures, Marvel!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 15:31:16 GMT -5
^The character box in the top left corner makes it look like Subby is throwing Iron Man's helmet like a volley ball. Either commit to headshots or full-body miniatures, Marvel! They altered that in the split books for most of their runs-one character would have the head shot and the other full body, then the next issue it would flip. That Iron Man and Sub-Mariner issue was a hangover from the split books era. They wanted to give all 4 features from Suspense and Astonish their own books but needed an extra month to get all the production issues in order, Cap and Hulk got theirs but Subby and Shellhead were't quite ready so they did shorter split book stories for a month to give them more production time and published them as the one-shot. Iron Man 1 and Sub-Mariner 1 in full length stories followed the month afterwards. There was a behind the scenes article on this I read somewhere in the 80s or 90s (possibly in Overstreet or in CBG, but I can't recall the source now). I am not sure if it was because they couldn't get full length stories ready in time, they already had the shorter stories done, or were waiting for the extra slot in publication to become available to them when the restrictions on number of books were lifted, but there was a logistical reason not sales performance behind the one-shot split book. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 15:43:25 GMT -5
^The character box in the top left corner makes it look like Subby is throwing Iron Man's helmet like a volley ball. Either commit to headshots or full-body miniatures, Marvel! They altered that in the split books for most of their runs-one character would have the head shot and the other full body, then the next issue it would flip. That Iron Man and Sub-Mariner issue was a hangover from the split books era. They wanted to give all 4 features form Suspense and Astonish their own books but needed an extra month to get all the production issues in order, Cap and Hulk got there's but Subby and Shellhead were't quite ready so they did shorter split book stories for a month to give them more production time and published them as the one-shot. Iron Man 1 and Sub-Mariner 1 in full length stories followed the month afterwards. There was a behind the scenes article on this I read somewhere in the 80s or 90s (possibly in Overstreet or in CBG, but I can't recall the source now). I am not sure if it was because they couldn't get full length stories ready in time, they already had the shorter stories done, or were waiting for the extra slot in publication to become available to them when the restrictions on number of books were lifted, but there was a logistical reason not sales performance behind the one-shot split book. -M Thanks for the explanation. I was confused why Marvel did this one shot back then.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Feb 21, 2016 17:34:03 GMT -5
Yeah, Daredevil and Iron Man were gonna be merged at one point - I believe it was a split book not a two-in-one book, though. When Marvel changed format to 48 pages for 25 cents for comics cover dated November 1971, Bullpen Bulletins announced a plan for a shared Daredevil and Iron Man title. This was promptly forgotten when they doubled back on themselves to go to a 32 pages for 20 cents format the next month. At this point, Gerry Conway was doing both series and had one villain, Mr Kline, pulling the strings in DD #78-84 and IM #41-45. DD and IM had previously crossed over with a Zodiac story in IM #35 & DD #73 dated February/March 1971, also written by Conway. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 21, 2016 18:54:06 GMT -5
Same ballpark, different section. Three defunct titles combined into one group (with an inexplicably large, inappropriately colored "logo" for the debut.  |
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Post by spoon on Feb 21, 2016 21:25:34 GMT -5
In the late 80s, Doctor Strange and Cloak & Dagger were canceled and merged into the double-feature Strange Tales.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 23:20:30 GMT -5
One of the more successful examples would be combining Jimmy Olsen, Lois Lane, and Supergirl's titles into Superman Family. During DC's Dollar Comics era Adventure Comics became the place for cancelled series like Aquaman & All Star Comics (JSA). |
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Post by realjla on Feb 22, 2016 11:43:57 GMT -5
World's Finest also did that, with Black Lightning and Shazam...not to mention Aquaman, in between stints in Adventure.
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Post by MWGallaher on Feb 22, 2016 14:28:25 GMT -5
Yeah, Daredevil and Iron Man were gonna be merged at one point - I believe it was a split book not a two-in-one book, though. When Marvel changed format to 48 pages for 25 cents for comics cover dated November 1971, Bullpen Bulletins announced a plan for a shared Daredevil and Iron Man title. This was promptly forgotten when they doubled back on themselves to go to a 32 pages for 20 cents format the next month. At this point, Gerry Conway was doing both series and had one villain, Mr Kline, pulling the strings in DD #78-84 and IM #41-45. DD and IM had previously crossed over with a Zodiac story in IM #35 & DD #73 dated February/March 1971, also written by Conway. I wonder if the plan was to put new stories of Iron Man and Daredevil into Marvel Super-Heroes, which at the time was a reprint featuring those two characters. Sales may have suggested that the pairing was attracting numbers comparable to their respective solo titles. Another comic that sort of qualifies is Super-Villain Team-Up, which replaced the recently-cancelled Sub-Mariner by this "permanent" team-up with Dr. Doom, whose solo series had been cancelled four years prior. And before it was cancelled, Swamp Thing was on-track to becoming Swamp Thing and Hawkman, which I would have relished (besides, it would have to be better than what Swampy's ongoing had devolved into)! And another "shotgun divorce" happened when Reno Jones and Kid Cassidy, the Gunhawks became Reno Jones, Gunhawk by killing off one of the two co-stars of this Marvel western. |
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