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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 10, 2019 11:28:50 GMT -5
What part of Idaho did you go to? And why didn't I know you were here? I was in Coeur d’Alene for three days. I might be moving there over the summer. Ahhh...north Idaho. Coeur d’Alene is beautiful, but it's kind of expensive to live there (by Idaho standards). I used to make it up there every 2-3 years, but it's been probably 5-6 years since I last made it to north Idaho.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 10, 2019 11:31:02 GMT -5
I was in Coeur d’Alene for three days. I might be moving there over the summer. Ahhh...north Idaho. Coeur d’Alene is beautiful, but it's kind of expensive to live there (by Idaho standards). I used to make it up there every 2-3 years, but it's been probably 5-6 years since I last made it to north Idaho. Where are you?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 10, 2019 11:42:53 GMT -5
Ahhh...north Idaho. Coeur d’Alene is beautiful, but it's kind of expensive to live there (by Idaho standards). I used to make it up there every 2-3 years, but it's been probably 5-6 years since I last made it to north Idaho. Where are you? Burley-Rupert area, which is about forty miles east of Twin Falls. So right in the middle of southern Idaho.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 10, 2019 16:09:55 GMT -5
I didn't take Avengers Marvel Masterworks with me when I went to Idaho, and I was kind of busy when I got back, and somehow, I completely forgot I was reading Avengers #1 through #10 and occasionally commenting on this wonderful run. I read #5 the day before I left. The Avengers versus the Lava Men! This one is just so crazy! The Lava Men have this big green glowing thing pushing up out of the Earth and it gets as big as a mountain, but if you try to stop it or hit it, it will blow up and destroy all life on the surface. Fricking Lava Men! So the Avengers are called in and the Hulk is wandering around and bananashenanigans ensue! Evenntually, Giant-Man figures out these is a weak spot. (He's a scientist, you know. It's science!) If you hit the weak spot, the big glowing green mountain will deflate and become harmless. So they lure Hulk onto the big green glowing mountain and tease him and Hank turns to Ant-Man just as the Hulk is swinging at him and he hits the weak spot and Earth is saved! I used to think this issue was pretty awful, and it is, but I've warm ed to it over the years. Some sublime Silver Age silliness with so much crazy stuff going on. About ten days have gone by since I read Avengers #5, and I suddenly remembered my little project last night and read Avengers #6. This is a whole different kettle of fish! This is the first issue that names Baron Zemo, the fiend who killed Bucky! (Well, not really, it turned out.) Zemo is hiding out in South America, where he does what all former Nazis do in South America; he has subjugated a whole tribe (somehow) and they cater to his every whim (for some reason) and they carry him in a portable throne ( because … reasons?) and when he decides to walk, he walks on their backs so he doesn't have to place his precious feet on an inferior continent like South America (or so I surmise). He finds out Captain America is still alive and he puts together a group called the Masters of Evil with a bunch of villains who had fought individual members of the Avengers before - the Black Knight, the Melter and Radio-Active Man. And they attack New York with glue and so all the New Yorkers are glued to the street! I love the scene where they are talking about how they should have teamed up before and with Zemo as their leader, they can rule the world! Because if you glue New Yorkers to the street, then you can somehow rule the world! I guess. Somehow. I bought a beat-up copy of Avengers #6 when I was 13, 1977, for $5 or $6, and even then, I was scratching my head here and there, even though I loved this issue then as much as I do now. Still, these Masters of Evil are kind of lame! The Melter is a huge goober, no one is scared of the early 1960s Black Knight and the Radio-Active Man is actually super scary because his radiation is not the kind that gives you the proportionate strength of a spider or turns you invisible or gives you the power to flame on. But he's kind of boring nonetheless. What would really make this issue an unqualified classic is to give the Wasp more to do! Either the Melter or the Black Knight traps her in a blind alley and she defeats him single-handed while the other Avengers are glued to the street. She flies out and, after commenting on how handsome the Black Knight is without his mask, says something like "Let me take care of the rest of this gang and then we'll see about getting you out of that glue! Ta-ta, boys!" Have you been reading that series on CBR where Brian Cronin and Eileen Gonzalez are reviewing the Avengers issues, starting form #1 (currently on #15)?
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 11, 2019 12:23:53 GMT -5
Have you been reading that series on CBR where Brian Cronin and Eileen Gonzalez are reviewing the Avengers issues, starting form #1 (currently on #15)? No, I haven't! I'll have to check it out!
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 11, 2019 12:28:45 GMT -5
I've been reading the Fantastic Four from issue 39 to 62 . How did Medusa go from being a murderess B***h to a loving doting member of the Inhumans and why did she even join the Frightful Four? I'm guessing Lee and Kirby had no plan and were just making it up as they went along.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 11, 2019 12:38:09 GMT -5
I've been gathering a run of 1980s Wonder Woman and I have all but three of the issues between #272 and #301. I was taking a little break from these early 1980s Wonder Woman issues for a while, but I saw the Gil Kane cover to Wonder Woman #312 a few weeks ago and I couldn't stop thinking about it! So the next time I was near the comic book shop in Rancho Cucamonga, I drove over and picked it up. As it was clearly the second part of a two-part story (the little green guys are on #311 as well), I had to get the previous issue as well. And I missed the last two issues of current Wonder Woman, so I got those. And also Wonder Woman #322, because it was there. Such a nice Gil Kane cover! Here's a Silver Age artist who kept producing quality work throughout his career! The interior art is by Don Heck, and he's looking really good too! His Bronze Age art isn't always so great at times, but he was doing some fine work for Wonder Woman that you can't fault him for. The story kinds cracked me up! Wonder Woman and Steve fight gremlins! They steal all kinds of flying vehicles and hide them in a giant cloud that looks like the Sargasso of the Sky! This is so Kanigher, but fortunately without Wonder Girl and Mer-Teen and Bird-Tot. And one of the gremlins was still around in #322, so I guess he became a supporting character! I suppose somebody thought WW needed an impish counterpart like Bat-Mite, Mr. Mxyzptlk or Zook or Itty. I thought that's what Wonder Tot was for! (Or in the Golden Age - Etta Candy!)
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 11, 2019 12:43:19 GMT -5
I've been reading the Fantastic Four from issue 39 to 62 . How did Medusa go from being a murderess B***h to a loving doting member of the Inhumans and why did she even join the Frightful Four? I'm guessing Lee and Kirby had no plan and were just making it up as they went along. There's an issue of Marvel Super-Heroes (#16, I think) that (if I remember correctly) goes into this a bit. Something like "The Inhumans want to find out about the outside world so Medusa goes out into the world and falls in with a bad crowd who convince her that the FF are bad guys." It has some wonderful Gene Colan art and some wacky Marvel Golden Age reprints! I think I'll drag it out of the longboxes and read it before I get back to Avengers # 1 to #10.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 11, 2019 12:52:05 GMT -5
I've been reading the Fantastic Four from issue 39 to 62 . How did Medusa go from being a murderess B***h to a loving doting member of the Inhumans and why did she even join the Frightful Four? I'm guessing Lee and Kirby had no plan and were just making it up as they went along. There's an issue of Marvel Super-Heroes (#16, I think) that (if I remember correctly) goes into this a bit. Something like "The Inhumans want to find out about the outside world so Medusa goes out into the world and falls in with a bad crowd who convince her that the FF are bad guys." It has some wonderful Gene Colan art and some wacky Marvel Golden Age reprints! I think I'll drag it out of the longboxes and read it before I get back to Avengers # 1 to #10. Thanks, I have that issue. But the change in personality is so stark that I had to ask about it.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 11, 2019 12:57:34 GMT -5
I've been reading the Fantastic Four from issue 39 to 62 . How did Medusa go from being a murderess B***h to a loving doting member of the Inhumans and why did she even join the Frightful Four? I'm guessing Lee and Kirby had no plan and were just making it up as they went along. There's an issue of Marvel Super-Heroes (#16, I think) that (if I remember correctly) goes into this a bit. Something like "The Inhumans want to find out about the outside world so Medusa goes out into the world and falls in with a bad crowd who convince her that the FF are bad guys." It has some wonderful Gene Colan art and some wacky Marvel Golden Age reprints! I think I'll drag it out of the longboxes and read it before I get back to Avengers # 1 to #10. That was later elaborated on in the Official Handbook series. Medusa, it memory serves, had escaped from the Great Refuge during Maximus' first coup, contracting amnesia in the process. It was while in this state that Wizard recruited her in Europe for the Frightful Four. It's never been stated explicitly, but I've always assumed Wiz subjected her to the same id machine he used on the Thing in FF #41 to warp her personality. By the time she reunited with the Royal Family in #45, both the treatment and her amnesia had worn off.
But 'bone is also right.
Cei-U! I summon the sad story!
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 11, 2019 13:04:40 GMT -5
There's an issue of Marvel Super-Heroes (#16, I think) that (if I remember correctly) goes into this a bit. Something like "The Inhumans want to find out about the outside world so Medusa goes out into the world and falls in with a bad crowd who convince her that the FF are bad guys." It has some wonderful Gene Colan art and some wacky Marvel Golden Age reprints! I think I'll drag it out of the longboxes and read it before I get back to Avengers # 1 to #10. That was later elaborated on in the Official Handbook series. Medusa, it memory serves, had escaped from the Great Refuge during Maximus' first coup, contracting amnesia in the process. It was while in this state that Wizard recruited her in Europe for the Frightful Four. It's never been stated explicitly, but I've always assumed Wiz subjected her to the same id machine he used on the Thing in FF #41 to warp her personality. By the time she reunited with the Royal Family in #45, both the treatment and her amnesia had worn off.
But 'bone is also right.
Cei-U! I summon the sad story!
Yikes, with that convoluted explanation, I could see that you were a partner to Roy Thomas. She was a murderess villain , and in the space of 10 issues became a loving , devoted partner to Black Bolt.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 11, 2019 15:57:55 GMT -5
That was later elaborated on in the Official Handbook series. Medusa, it memory serves, had escaped from the Great Refuge during Maximus' first coup, contracting amnesia in the process. It was while in this state that Wizard recruited her in Europe for the Frightful Four. It's never been stated explicitly, but I've always assumed Wiz subjected her to the same id machine he used on the Thing in FF #41 to warp her personality. By the time she reunited with the Royal Family in #45, both the treatment and her amnesia had worn off.
But 'bone is also right.
Cei-U! I summon the sad story!
Yikes, with that convoluted explanation, I could see that you were a partner to Roy Thomas. She was a murderess villain , and in the space of 10 issues became a loving , devoted partner to Black Bolt. What's convoluted about it? It's based entirely on facts established in the source material and a bit of speculation consistent with those facts. It's not like I suddenly declared that the Titanians and Uranians are actually Eternals.
Cei-U! I summon the faceti... fasheesha... the sarcasm!
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 11, 2019 16:33:27 GMT -5
Yikes, with that convoluted explanation, I could see that you were a partner to Roy Thomas. She was a murderess villain , and in the space of 10 issues became a loving , devoted partner to Black Bolt. What's convoluted about it? It's based entirely on facts established in the source material and a bit of speculation consistent with those facts. It's not like I suddenly declared that the Titanians and Uranians are actually Eternals.
Cei-U! I summon the faceti... fasheesha... the sarcasm!
It's facetiousicity!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 11, 2019 17:37:23 GMT -5
I've been reading the Fantastic Four from issue 39 to 62 . How did Medusa go from being a murderess B***h to a loving doting member of the Inhumans and why did she even join the Frightful Four? I'm guessing Lee and Kirby had no plan and were just making it up as they went along. That entire first Inhumans storyline is kind of a mess, isn't it? My notes say "Character Designs: A +. Plot: D -"
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 11, 2019 17:53:12 GMT -5
I've been reading the Fantastic Four from issue 39 to 62 . How did Medusa go from being a murderess B***h to a loving doting member of the Inhumans and why did she even join the Frightful Four? I'm guessing Lee and Kirby had no plan and were just making it up as they went along. That entire first Inhumans storyline is kind of a mess, isn't it? My notes say "Character Designs: A +. Plot: D -" Their names weren't thought through, either: three were named for characters from Greek mythology, one for a city in Egypt, one for a rock, and one had a super-hero name that made no sense applied to the exiled monarch of a hidden kingdom (and which later gave us Gruenwald's excruciating "Blackagar Boltagon"). The only name that was both clever and apropos was Lockjaw.
Cei-U! I summon the nonsensical nomenclature!
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