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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 12, 2019 17:11:15 GMT -5
One of the nicest Ink jobs came from Colletta on Thor 126, his epic battle with Hercules. Give credit where it's due.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 12, 2019 22:28:23 GMT -5
Seconded. Colletta was just amazing there. I've see Colan/Colletta collaborations that were less credible (canny?) but that Medusa story is just jaw-dropping. I say this with nothing but affection, but you guys are nuts. Colletta MASSACRED Colan's pencils on that Medusa story! Admittedly Gene's work is challenging for any inker but Vinnie's "delicate" penwork is a very bad match for his subtle, shadow-drenched pencils (as Colan himself stated on at least one occasion). I will say, however, that I like it better than Paul Reinman over Colan, as seen two issues earlier in MSH #13.
Cei-U! I summon the gentlemen's disagreement!
I just don't see it. I mean, theoretically I agree - and I generally don't like the C &C combo - but in this particular case I thought Colletta did an amazing job spotting blacks and gave Medusa's hair subtle enough shading it seemed to be rippling and moving.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 13, 2019 9:14:40 GMT -5
I read Thor #224-225. I haven't read Thor in a little while. Anyway, in #224 he and Hercules rush back to earth with the dying goddess Krista. It's there that Thor reveals to Herc that he's also Dr. Donald Blake. Blake then rushes to surgery and saves Krista's life. Afterwards, he has an interesting conversation with a female doctor, and he then gets to wondering if he can do more good as Thor or as Dr. Blake. Get ready for some "which identity should I be?" monologues for a while. Herc goes off to party. Meanwhile, some unscrupulous scientist activates the Destroyer, who proceeds to run amok and Herc goes to stop him, but doesn't fare too well. Thor shows up and tells Herc to go find the person whose life force the Destroyer took (that scientist). In #225, the first half is spent with Thor finally defeating the Destroyer, and the second half is spent introducing Firelord, Galactus's newest herald. It seems like they ran out of pages in #224 and had to continue that story in this issue. Anyway, Firelord signals Galactus, who is presumably coming to earth for a snack. If Galactus has decided that he is coming earth, why the heck does he need a herald to help him? The herald is supposed to find him new worlds to eat, not ones he's already aware of. It doesn't make any sense for Firelord to need to signal Galactus. Overall, these two stories had a good plot, but weak scripting. It's clear here that Thor does not have Dr. Blake's medical knowledge, yet doesn't that get contradicted at a later date?
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 13, 2019 9:27:46 GMT -5
I read several Hulk issues from #225-234. It starts with Banner dying, and Doc Samson has to turn him back into the Hulk to save his life. The Hulk then saves the world be defeating the Leader. The Hulk then remembers that he's angry with Doc Samson and beats on him. Later (I didn't read all of the issues in this run, so I'm skipping some stuff) he's back at Gamma Base, and Doc Samson has him under observation. He's actually acting quite peacefully, but when he accidentally stumbles upon Moonstone trying to steal some Gammatron parts, she hits him, then plays some cruel mind games with him, alternately sounding like a helpless female, then attacking him while insulting him. When help shows up, Moonstone has changed back to Dr. Karla Sofen, so it looks like Hulk has attacked a helpless female. She really set up the poor Hulk! :-( Jim Wilson appears here and there. Anyway, Hulk winds up making his way to California and hooks up with hippy named Fred Sloan, who befriends him (seeing him as another oppressed being that he lives his live trying to stick up for) and he takes Hulk to a hippy commune. Most of the residents there are very unhappy that Fred brought the Hulk there, but one resident who isn't like that is Trish Starr. I've run across Trish here and there in random Bronze Age Marvel comics, so she was familiar to me. I hadn't realized, though, that Egghead was her uncle, so I found that out here.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 13, 2019 9:41:56 GMT -5
I read The Legion of Super-Heroes #279-280. A pair of really good Legion issues!! #279is the conclusion of the Reflecto story, and the Grimbor story. We find that Reflecto is not Ultra Boy, as everybody though, but Superboy. Nice curve ball! Grimbor is of course defeated. I do have a liking for Grimbor, for some reason. Anyway, #280 continues the Reflecto/Superboy/Ultra Boy mystery, as Superboy insists that he's really Ultra Boy. It appears that Ultra Boy's mind is somehow inside of Superboy's body! The Legion go back to 20th century Smallville to try to get to the bottom of this mystery, and find out that just before Superboy traveled to the 30th century, he had take a nuke that was supposed to be detonated underground and brought it above ground to be detonated! Luckily, the Legion arrive the moment after Superboy left the 20th century and they (well, really just Superboy) are able to contain the nuclear explosion and harmlessly direct it into space. The military try to arreest Superboy and the Legion, and that went about as well as you'd expect for them. Then, the Time Trapper shows up and reveals his presence. The Time Trapper takes off again. However, we've got several mysteries now. Why does Superboy think he's Ultra Boy? Where is Ultra Boy? Why did Supes take the nuke above ground, causing the US to be in violation of international treaty? And what is the Time Trapper's involvement? What's he up to? The art in #280 in particular was excellent. Probably the best I've seen since Mike Grell left. No interior art can match these George Perez covers we've been getting, but this Jimmy Janes/Bruce Patterson art team worked out great! There's a two page pinup in the middle of #280, as the cover attests. However, unfortunately it's drawn by Joe Staton instead of Jimmy Janes.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 13, 2019 13:01:22 GMT -5
I read the Brave & the Bold #179, because it had the Legion of Super-Heroes. It was a pretty good story with Bats travelling to the 30th century to help the Legion take on Universo and some evil scientist dude. Good art, too.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 13, 2019 17:02:03 GMT -5
Noooo don't take our females!!!
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 13, 2019 17:14:52 GMT -5
Noooo don't take our females!!! Guess it's time to schedule an eye appointment. On first read, I thought that said "don't take our tamales."
Cei-U! I summon the seeing-eye dog!
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Post by badwolf on Jun 13, 2019 17:34:06 GMT -5
Same thing really.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 13, 2019 21:00:54 GMT -5
ROM #4 Amazing cover, equally amazing issue that's been built up over two months
Archie Stryer, a petty crook, seeks revenge on Rom for what he perceived to be the inhumane death of fellow human. This bloodlust leads him into the clutches of Project Safeguard, a dire wraith organization seeking the same goals as Archie. After much testing, Archie is given the keys to the Firefall armor that allows him to wield great power, equal to if not greater than Rom's. The armor once belonged to a dear friend, almost a bloodbrother, of Rom's, Karas. Never wavering in his commitment never to harm an innocent soul, Rom is battered by Stryer until he can't handle it any longer, leaving Archie a battered mess of contorted metal
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 14, 2019 8:46:01 GMT -5
Noooo don't take our females!!! If it weren't for females, who would the bad guys take hostage??
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Post by badwolf on Jun 14, 2019 8:57:32 GMT -5
Noooo don't take our females!!! If it weren't for females, who would the bad guys take hostage?? Our tamales, apparently.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 14, 2019 11:09:44 GMT -5
Noooo don't take our females!!! If it weren't for females, who would the bad guys take hostage?? Robin the Boy Hostage.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 14, 2019 13:06:50 GMT -5
I read Thor #226-228. This concludes the story where Thor, Hercules, Galactus, and Firelord take on the now insane Ego. The plot was decent, but the scripting left much to be desired. Also, they threw in the side plot where Odin is watching Thor (which in itself is kinda creepy), and I still haven't figured out the purpose of adding that. Aside from that, Odin was pretty quick to doubt Thor when he observes him teaming up with Galactus, though luckily he saw the light soon enough. Then, Odin sees that his son is in a life and death battle, possibly for the fate of the universe, and Odin says he doesn't need to watch anymore? huh? "Thor's battle must be alone" First of all, why must it be alone, with the fate of the universe allegedly at stake? Second, he's not alone! Hercules, Galactus, and Firelord are with him?? Since Odin's "he must do this alone" line is invalid, shouldn't he help out?? at least Sif has some sense, and tries to get Odin to intervene. Odin says "I do what I must, because I must" Uh yeah, sure, whatever. Anyway, the actual battle was not all that exciting, and Ego was defeated too easily considering how much they built up his threat. And actualy, if Galactus is OK with the Destroyer being his herald, why couldn't he have just built a robot himself to perform that function rather than recruiting unwilling humanoids? We did get the origin of Ego in this arc, which I had never read before. I didn't realize that he used to be a man.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 14, 2019 13:31:54 GMT -5
We did get the origin of Ego in this arc, which I had never read before. I didn't realize that he used to be a man. Nor did I! Now I have to dig out my Official Handbook...
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