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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 11, 2016 20:17:51 GMT -5
Something that I've been trying to put my finger on is what exactly makes Marvel's atomic-age interstellar fantasies so charming and inexplicably appealing. This might seem to be a strange relation, but I think Carl Sagan's 'Cosmos' and the ideas it presented is what might got me so intoxicated by the concepts of Cosmic Marvel (hence the title)
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 11, 2016 20:48:37 GMT -5
And those old comics are now worth billions and billions!
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Post by berkley on Mar 12, 2016 1:01:38 GMT -5
A friend of mine is a big fan of Sagan's books but I never got around to reading them. I think Marvel's cosmic stuff was once appealing because there was a sense of wonder and mystery about it. Unfortunately that has been lost over the years through familiarity and over-elaboration. Stuff like Secret Wars and the Marvel handbooks didn't help.
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Post by tolworthy on Mar 12, 2016 2:59:51 GMT -5
A friend of mine is a big fan of Sagan's books but I never got around to reading them. I think Marvel's cosmic stuff was once appealing because there was a sense of wonder and mystery about it. Unfortunately that has been lost over the years through familiarity and over-elaboration. Stuff like Secret Wars and the Marvel handbooks didn't help. I think a bigger problem is lack of imagination. Using the Lee-Kirby FF as a benchmark (naturally) they never went to the same well twice. Every adventure was new. And on the rare occasion that they went back to the same exotic location, they always added something dramatically bigger than before. For example, the first visit to the Negative Zone introduces the distortion area and the negative Earth. The second time they look in (just a brief peak from outside) they discover life forms. The next time, when Reed is sucked in, they discover Blastaar. The next time it's Annihilus. And that's it: Kirby loses interest in going back because he's onto a new dimension: the dimension of scale (the microverse), or the dimension of human potential (his original intention for "Him"). Everything Kirby did was new and rewarding. But as soon as Kirby left we got the same stories repeated again and again. FF 107? Reed is trapped in the negative zone again. FF 180? Reed is trapped in the negative zone again. FF229? Reed is trapped in the negative zone again. FF 255? Reed is trapped in the negative zone again. FF 289? Reed is trapped in the negative zone again. It seems that Without Kirby the house of ideas was just a house. |
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