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Post by String on Mar 29, 2016 9:14:39 GMT -5
Waitaminute: Hyperion has his own book, now? Yes and it co-stars androgynous boy-girl #23456 who needs Hyperion to be her "hero" Plus he's a truck driver in his secret identity now which I think is kinda cool in a cheesy sort of way. (It just brings to mind the 70s fascination with truck driving/drivers. Smokey and the Bandit, BJ & the Bear, Convoy! and lest we forget that Chuck Norris classic, Breaker! Breaker!) How good (or bad) were all the Before Watchmen minis? I remember the uproar at the time over how dare DC intrude or add onto the worthiness of Watchmen without Moore or Gibbons. (Though I seem to remember Gibbons giving his later approval). DC had some impressive talent working on the books but I have yet to read any of them. |
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Post by Spike-X on Mar 30, 2016 2:11:51 GMT -5
How good (or bad) were all the Before Watchmen minis? I remember the uproar at the time over how dare DC intrude or add onto the worthiness of Watchmen without Moore or Gibbons. (Though I seem to remember Gibbons giving his later approval). DC had some impressive talent working on the books but I have yet to read any of them. I haven't read them, and nothing I've heard about them makes me want to. In fact, everything I've heard about them only reinforces my decision to stay away from the whole project. Besides being a basically a giant f***-you to Alan Moore, it's all completely unnecessary. Everything we need to know about these characters and their world is contained between the front and back cover of the Watchmen collection, in whichever format you may have it (I upgraded from my somewhat worn and tattered first printing tpb to a shiny new HC a couple years back. but I digress). Yeah, they had some first-class creators working on those books, including some of my absolute favourites (Rude, Cooke, Allred come to mind). It's too bad DC couldn't find work for those people that didn't involve taking a crap all over the legacy of one of the greatest projects they've ever published. |
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Post by Spike-X on Mar 30, 2016 2:20:35 GMT -5
Black Widow is being done by the former DD creative team of Mark Waid and Chris Samnee. Well then, consider my interest piqued! |
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Post by Spike-X on Mar 30, 2016 2:23:43 GMT -5
My favorite series from the 2011 to 2013 period:  This was so great. I need to pick up a collection(s) of some kind. Have you read Slott and Allred's current ongoing Silver Surfer series? If you loved FF, it should be right up your alley. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 30, 2016 8:39:03 GMT -5
How good (or bad) were all the Before Watchmen minis? I remember the uproar at the time over how dare DC intrude or add onto the worthiness of Watchmen without Moore or Gibbons. (Though I seem to remember Gibbons giving his later approval). DC had some impressive talent working on the books but I have yet to read any of them. Most of Before Watchmen was pretty bad. Way too much of it was just expanding the character back stories and building a narrative around key moments from the original novel. Doctor Manhattan and Ozymandias were the worst at this (and Doctor Manhattan started out so promising!) Rorschach and Nite Owl both focused more on specific incidents not mentioned or barely mentioned in Watchmen. And they were both awful. The Comedian had one issue that was really good! In #4, he participates in the Watts riots, making a very bad visual joke about it and making things much worse. The rest of that series was readable, but mediocre. (I haven't read the last issue. I sort of forgot about it for three years. But I got it in the mail yesterday.) The Minutemen had its moments, and I rather liked it at first. But by the time it was over, it had done so little with its intriguing ideas that it was actually kind of frustrating. But Silk Spectre was great! Laurel Jane is a rebellious teen who runs away from home with her boyfriend to Haight-Ashbury in the late 1960s and has an adventure! Great art by Amanda Conner. Darwyn Cooke dropped the ball on Minutemen but he did a super job on Silk Spectre. I don't store it with the other BW series. I keep it in the box with comics I read regularly so it's easier to get to. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 30, 2016 16:32:59 GMT -5
I finished the Crimson Corsair collection a few days ago. It's in a collection with the Ozymandias series and the Dollar Bill one-shot. I didn't read Ozymandias because I don't remember it being all that great and I have it if I want to read it again some time. I did read the Dollar Bill one-shot event though I have it because it's short and it's not that bad. The Crimson Corsair starts out pretty good and charges along like a good pirate horror story should for most of the installments. But I didn't really like the ending. I also admit I missed the 1950s EC style of the pirate story "Marooned" from Tales of the Black Freighter. The layouts and the coloring of "Marooned" were really very much like a 1950s adventure comic book. It was pretty cool. And I missed that on The Crimson Corsair. Until I thought about it for a while. The pirate craze in the Watchmen Universe that spawned Tales of the Black Freighter might have gone on through the 1960s and into the 1970s. And it struck me that's what Crimson Corsair looks like, a pirate story from one of the black and white magazines, like the kind Warren published but with pirate horror instead of regular horror or science fiction. Crimson Corsair is in color, but it's rather subdued color. It very much reminds me of what I saw in Warren or Marvel black and white magazines in the 1970s, especially the layouts! I don't know if it's intentional, but it's my interpretation of The Crimson Corsair. Which makes the actual story even better because a lot of those 1970s stories have disappointing endings. |
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Post by batlaw on Mar 30, 2016 21:15:50 GMT -5
I ended up reading most the before watchmen minis. They were good. Some quite good in fact. The minute men by Cooke especially. I only tried a couple, but was impressed enough I got more. None were complete shit imp, but ultimately the problem is that none of if them were necessary either. Like a cool alternate universe one shot or crossover tie in that despite being entertaining and or well done, doesn't "mean anything" or really matters. I don't regret getting them.
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Mar 31, 2016 23:18:49 GMT -5
I picked up a bunch of trades with some leftover tax money and amazon gift cards I had.
Here's what I got:
Batman & Robin Volumes 6 & 7 - The Hunt for Robin/Robin Rises (Hellbat armor looks great)
Justice League Vol. 7 - Darkseid War Part 1 (ol' Darky vs. Anti-Moniter sounds like fun)
Suicide Squad Vol. 1 - Kicked in the Teeth
Wonder Woman Vol. 7 - War Torn (pixie WW anyone?) (but it's Finch, no?)
Superman Unchained
Superman: Doomed (Ooh Greg Pak, this looks right up my alley)
Deadpool: Flashbacks
Weirdworld Vol. 1 (this is blowing my mind already)
Grendel vs. The Shadow (hell yes!)
Transformers vs. GI Joe Vol. 2 (yay for more Scioli insanity)
Also got a few sci-fi trades:
Black Science Volumes 1 & 2
Saga Vol. 1 (late to the party on this one)
Low Vol. 1
Roche Limit
Prophet Volumes 1-4 (this is going to rule, isn't it)
Space Riders
After seeing this list, I think I bought a library.
Well nice knowing you all, I've got some reading to do...yeesh.
This is the first time in a long time that I've been reading modern comics. Sweet!
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Post by Spike-X on Apr 1, 2016 1:13:37 GMT -5
Black Science and Saga are great. Prophet is the most alien sci-fi I've ever read. Brandon Graham's ideas are waaaaaaaay out there. And I don't mean that in a bad way.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Apr 1, 2016 7:35:16 GMT -5
Is anyone reading the ongoing Weirdworld? Opinions?
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 1, 2016 8:22:05 GMT -5
Prophet is the most alien sci-fi I've ever read. Brandon Graham's ideas are waaaaaaaay out there. And I don't mean that in a bad way. Prophet is one of the few American comics that I've successfully seen mimic more European choices when it comes to plot, ideas, and story structure. I mean it wouldn't be out of place at all in 2000 AD |
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 1, 2016 8:38:03 GMT -5
Is anyone reading the ongoing Weirdworld? Opinions? I am, and I'm quite enjoying it. Nice to see some long neglected characters being used in interesting new ways. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Apr 1, 2016 8:46:08 GMT -5
Is anyone reading the ongoing Weirdworld? Opinions? I am, and I'm quite enjoying it. Nice to see some long neglected characters being used in interesting new ways. How would you compare it to the Battleworlds mini by Aaron? I know it has the same artist (amazing work from Del Mundo, but I wonder if it doesn't become a tad repetitive...), but apart from that and a change of writer and main character, I know nothing of what it's actually telling... |
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 1, 2016 9:00:06 GMT -5
I am, and I'm quite enjoying it. Nice to see some long neglected characters being used in interesting new ways. How would you compare it to the Battleworlds mini by Aaron? I know it has the same artist (amazing work from Del Mundo, but I wonder if it doesn't become a tad repetitive...), but apart from that and a change of writer and main character, I know nothing of what it's actually telling... I wasn't too impressed with the mini, but the current series appears to be actually going somewhere, and I'm liking the new characters, as well as the continued use of former members of the cast of Crystar. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Apr 1, 2016 9:31:39 GMT -5
I picked up a bunch of trades with some leftover tax money and amazon gift cards I had. Justice League Vol. 7 - Darkseid War Part 1 (ol' Darky vs. Anti-Moniter sounds like fun) You'd think so, wouldn't you? But it drags out forever, and it's still not done. A couple weeks ago I took it off my pull list because after reading the last one (and finding out there's yet another extra comic/series you're supposed to buy) I realized that I just didn't care what happened. |
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