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Post by unstoppablexd on Aug 13, 2014 21:41:04 GMT -5
Bah! Sean Connery will always be Bond to me.... which is why I consider the Rock to be a Bond film, bringing us nicely back to Michael Bay
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 14, 2014 10:24:17 GMT -5
Yeah, Connery is the best!
Still, Roger Moore is pretty good as well. I especially love that bit in Live and Let Die where he runs across the lagoon on the backs of the alligators.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Aug 14, 2014 14:43:54 GMT -5
Moore's Bond was too silly for me. Seeing him in clown makeup in Octopussy was the final straw to his dignity. Craig didn't click with me at first because he looked too old for how they were trying to make out that he was just starting, and the blond thing was hard to get past. For what it's worth, this is my Bond Order of Preference:
Connery Brosnan Craig Dalton Moore Lazenby
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 17:25:06 GMT -5
I'm waiting to see if Craig and Mendes can outdo this scene...I love its brutality. And the question is...did Bond deliberately miss?
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Post by berkley on Aug 14, 2014 17:26:47 GMT -5
I grew up with the Roger Moore Bond movies but Connery is the man. Last year I was able to see Doctor No, Goldfinger, and From Russia with Love on the big screen at a local cinema, and his screen presence was amazing. Every little thing he does in almost every scene holds your interest. One thing I think is sometimes overlooked in Connery's performance as Bond is that there is a strong element of casual brutality that even Daniel Craig isn't able to match. For example, in the bit from Doctor No where he beats up the enemy agent who drives him from the airport: there's a look of viciousness that flashes across his face as he punches the guy that brings home to the viewer the kind of character he is far more effectively than any tough guy dialogue would have done.
I like Moore, though. he was perfect for the kind of movies he was asked to help make - sort of semi-comedies with occasional interludes of suspense and action. And I think he could have played a tougher Bond had that been demanded of him - there was a steely glint in his eyes that he could turn on when it was called for.
Brosnan and Dalton were disappointments as Bond. I like them in other things, and I can see why it was thought they might have been good choices as Bond, but it never came together on the screen, for me.
Lazenby is a bit under-rated, I think. He's a bit stolid, but there's a strain of that in the Bond of the books at times: he's not the smartest guy, nor the best fighter, but there's a doggedness to him, a determination to keep going until the job is done, no matter what the obstacles.
I like Craig's Bind, though I still thing they should have darkened his hair for the role. His movies are over-rated, though. Entertaining, and a definite improvement over the Brosnans I've seen, but still disappointingly inferior to the books and to the better of Connery's Bond films. Casino Royale was a step in the right direction, but didn't go nearly far enough and they've slacked off even more since then.
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Post by Pharozonk on Aug 14, 2014 21:13:39 GMT -5
Our first look at the new Stormtrooper helmets for Episode VII:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 2:50:31 GMT -5
Craig is my favorite Bond. I think Connery played the role fine, but obviously back then actors who played in action movies weren't sent to a training camp to learn convincing weapons and martial arts skills. It's not a problem with Connery though, I think all action movies have improved in that aspect. Will Smith could convince me he knows how to operate a sniper rifle from the window of a helicopter in flight these days. Back then I don't think Clint Eastwood could really convince me he knew his way around a gun fight.
Beyond the merits of the actors, I like the campiness being toned down. They still have the inside jokes though, like the scene where Q gives Bond his equipment and Bond asks what kind of hidden gadgets they have and Q says "We don't do that anymore." I thought that scene was great.
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Post by berkley on Aug 16, 2014 21:45:18 GMT -5
Yeah. I didn't look this up to make sure, but IIRC Connery had been in the military and had also been a pretty accomplished amateur boxer before getting into acting, so he probably had a step up on the action stuff compared to some actors.
But even without that background, for me it's more to do with the actor's screen presence than how much training he's done for a movie, though obviously both are important and the latter is much more thorough nowadays than it used to be. Will Smith could train for year and have all the moves down but he still isn't likely to convince me he's anything but Will Smith, tv sit-com guy. That could be just me, though: Smith is one of those guys I've always had bad performer/viewer chemistry with. Whatever it is he has or does that makes him popular and likeable to so many just doesn't seem to work for me. Tom Cruise is another one.
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Post by Jasoomian on Aug 16, 2014 23:50:41 GMT -5
Peter Sellers Sean Connery Woody Allen Pierce Brosnan George Lazenby Timothy Dalton Roger Moore Daniel Craig Barry Nelson
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Post by berkley on Aug 17, 2014 0:25:40 GMT -5
I used to love the Casino Royale movie with David Niven, Peter Sellers, Woody Allen, etc when I was a kid. I think I saw it 5 or 6 times on tv. Great soundtrack, too.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 17, 2014 12:10:12 GMT -5
I used to love the Casino Royale movie with David Niven, Peter Sellers, Woody Allen, etc when I was a kid. I think I saw it 5 or 6 times on tv. Great soundtrack, too. I love this movie. I have it on DVD and I've seen it a bunch of times. (Not recently.)
I can see why some people don't like it, but I think the positives far outweigh the negatives.
David Niven as James Bond.
Ursula Andress as Vesper Lynd.
Orson Wells as Le Chiffre.
Joanna Pettet as Mata Bond.
Peter Sellers as Evelyn Temble, baccarat expert.
John Huston as M.
Deborah Kerr as M's widow.
Woody Allen, Daliah Lavi, William Holden, Jackie Bisset.
I like the way the individual set-pieces make no sense in relation to each other.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 13:46:17 GMT -5
It's looking like they might skip the origin tale and star tin with Doc Strange already as Sorcerer Supreme for the movie... Spinoff online article
While I think it's a smart move overall to move away form origins, Doc's origin would make a kick-butt movie story, but I'll takes whats I can gets! -M
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 14:36:52 GMT -5
I was thinking maybe they were planning to make his origin the second film (if it happened), kinda like the first Wolverine, but I guess that's not happening if they're really planning to move away from origins altogether.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 14:48:37 GMT -5
I think you can do the Strange origin justice in about 5 minutes of screentime interspersed with the opening credits as a prologue tot he movie and then start your main story there...
-M
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Post by gothos on Aug 18, 2014 16:06:00 GMT -5
I liked the original EXPENDABLES, a fun valentine to the bad old days of action cinema. EXPENDABLES 2, though, struck me as nothing but a sterile Hollywood reprise.
Number 3 doesn't re-invent any wheels, but it's at least more coherent than the second film, with better set-pieces and a better villain.
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