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Post by Batflunkie on May 10, 2016 8:35:23 GMT -5
For the many months that I've been a member of this site, I've very much enjoyed the retrospective critiques on certain characters throughout the many decades and I thought it only wise that I do one of my own, but on my own terms. As I'm sure many of you are aware, the 1970's was a twitter with change, especially in the film industry. Many new genres would rise to prominence and acclaim, only to fade as quickly as they came. Two of these, Blaxploitation and Chopsocky, would be influential in the creation of probably the most unique duo of characters the Marvel universe has ever seen; Daniel Rand and Lucas Cage, alias Iron Fist and Power Man In this thread, I will be reviewing one title from each character's chronology at a time and I will be starting mainly with Hero For Hire #1 & Marvel Premiere #15, leading into the eventual climatic continuation in Power Man & Iron Fist, where we'll continue until the series ends in the late 80's So by all means, grab a chair, a choice cold beverage, and enjoy the ride~
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 8:52:05 GMT -5
That's would be so cool and I would be very much interested in what you have to say about Daniel Rand and Luke Cage - they are some of my favorite Marvel Characters and Hero for Hire is one of my favorite titles too.
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Post by shaxper on May 10, 2016 8:56:25 GMT -5
Been meaning to read the Iron Fist Marvel Premiere run for a long while now. I just might read along!
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Post by Batflunkie on May 10, 2016 9:01:43 GMT -5
Luke Cage, Hero For Hire #1, published in June of 1972 at a flat cover price of 20 cents Summary: The story opens rather ominously on a seafront correctional facility called "Seagate", lovingly referred to as "Little Alcatraz" by it's inmates. What's more is that, like every other prison-style "road to redemption" film of the time, the guards are incredibly corrupt and often let out their frustrations on inmates; none moreso than Lucas, a man who was wrongly framed for the murder of the woman he loved. While prison often drains what little humanity is left in the monster, Lucas stays strong, even when the odds are completely against him. This all changes when the new Warden arrives and decides that the current crop of guards must go, even letting Lucas have his way with one of them in "The Hole" before he says good-bye. Lucas is later approached by a correctional physician and given the chance for a possible parole if he willingly volunteers for an experiment that could be a great benefit to the country. However, in the process, one of the guards gets his revenge on Lucas by sabotaging the experiment. Somehow, Lucas survives and beats the guard to a pulp before using his new super-human abilities to escape. Now on the outside and believed dead as he attempted to flea from Seagate, he tries to resume a normal life the best that he can until he crosses paths with a would be crook and stops him. The store owner is elated and proceeds to offer Lucas some reward money, which he then uses to promote himself and his new business venture as the titular "Hero For Hire" Closing Thoughts: Decent first issue, but nothing entirely too special. Mostly just lays the groundwork for Lucas and his former friend turned mafia goon Will Stryker. There were some obviousl parallels between Lucas and another by-product of experimentation, Steve Rogers, that I found interesting. IDK, we'll just have to see where this goes. Not to sound harsh, but the cover is probably more intriguing than the actual story itself Rating: 3.5/5
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Post by Batflunkie on May 10, 2016 13:17:45 GMT -5
Marvel Premiere #15, published in May of 1974 at a flat cover price of 20 cents Summary: Daniel Rand is entering the final trials to obtain the awesome eastern power he seeks. He reflects on past, how his father dragged him, his mother, and his business partner out into the middle of nowhere in the freezing cold to find sort of mythical Shangri-La that he dreamt about. Unfortunately, his business partner betrays him and leaves Danny and his mother to die in the alps. With what little strength they have left, they try and venture onwards until the two of them are attacked by wolves, Danny's mother does not survive. Now with both of his parent's dead, Danny is taken in by Master Yu-Ti and the Dragon Kings of K'un-Lun who train him for teen long years Closing thoughts: It's easy to see why Danny and Luke were paired together as they obviously share a similar origin story of revenge, though told from entirely different perspectives. Rating: 4/5
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 10, 2016 14:36:35 GMT -5
I love origin stories. They're very often the most interesting part in super-hero movies, and it's also the case for many comics!
Both of these comics were pretty good in all their '70s zaniness!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 14:50:55 GMT -5
They had bold covers and explosive action and that's made them great! ... I miss those issues and you are doing a great job with the reviews so far - batflunkie!
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Post by Batflunkie on May 10, 2016 15:10:39 GMT -5
They had bold covers and explosive action and that's made them great! ... I miss those issues and you are doing a great job with the reviews so far - batflunkie! Thank you. I owned a hand-me down copy of Power Man & Iron Fist #73 growing up and I've always been in love with those characters. Over time I've grown up and matured slightly, and since most of my literary work is influenced by bits and pieces of that chaotic mess of a world that Danny and Luke inhabit, I thought I owed it to myself to try and rediscover them in an entirely new light
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Post by String on May 10, 2016 15:18:43 GMT -5
This duo is among the most unique of Marvel's stable of characters, certainly among the strongest friendships (and even partnerships) in all of the MU.
You just gotta love these costumes though, they scream Bronze Age 70s what with the flared yellow shirt, chain belt, manacle bracelets, metal headband. Danny's costume has aged better and his choice of slippers as footwear adds more subtle flair to the overall theme.
What's the timeline of this though? Had Master of Kung Fu been running for a bit before Danny appeared? For I find it interesting that Cage premiered in his own title right out of the gate and Danny didn't. The concept of selling your services as a 'hero' remains highly unique (and quite capitalistic).
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Post by Batflunkie on May 10, 2016 15:22:02 GMT -5
Danny's costume has aged better and his choice of slippers as footwear adds more subtle flair to the overall theme Agreed What's the timeline of this though? Had Master of Kung Fu been running for a bit before Danny appeared? For I find it interesting that Cage premiered in his own title right out of the gate and Danny didn't I'm not entirely clear on it either. Danny was apparently in Deadly Hands Of Kung-Fu, but nothing was obviously cannon (or it was just straight up reprints) or they would have collected it somewhere. IDK, I've never been particularly interested in Shang-Chi as a character, so I really never bothered to read it The concept of selling your services as a 'hero' remains highly unique (and quite capitalistic) To quote "Nature Boy" Ric Flair of all people, "To be the man, you gotta beat the man" , which I interpret as "To take down something, you have to become it if you hope to ever beat it at it's own game"
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 10, 2016 16:38:44 GMT -5
I love the early issues of Hero For Hire. But I find Iron Fist's early issues almost unreadable. The second person narration is off-putting. And Claremont reached Don McGregor levels of over-writing.
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Post by Batflunkie on May 10, 2016 16:48:56 GMT -5
Second person narration is always kind of weird and jarring to read, which is probably why it isn't used all that often, let alone in comics
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 10, 2016 20:26:18 GMT -5
This duo is among the most unique of Marvel's stable of characters, certainly among the strongest friendships (and even partnerships) in all of the MU. You just gotta love these costumes though, they scream Bronze Age 70s what with the flared yellow shirt, chain belt, manacle bracelets, metal headband. Danny's costume has aged better and his choice of slippers as footwear adds more subtle flair to the overall theme. What's the timeline of this though? Had Master of Kung Fu been running for a bit before Danny appeared? For I find it interesting that Cage premiered in his own title right out of the gate and Danny didn't. The concept of selling your services as a 'hero' remains highly unique (and quite capitalistic). I especially like the running gag later about Luke's shirts.. but that's in the future. Always great to see more review threads!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 12, 2016 14:54:49 GMT -5
What's the timeline of this though? Had Master of Kung Fu been running for a bit before Danny appeared? For I find it interesting that Cage premiered in his own title right out of the gate and Danny didn't. The concept of selling your services as a 'hero' remains highly unique (and quite capitalistic). Shang-Chi appeared a little earlier than Iron Fist : Special Marvel Edition #15, December 1973, vs Marvel Premiere #15, May 1974. Both were riding the Kung Fu craze of the '70s. I discovered Iron Fist much later than Shang-Chi, and my first impression was that marvel wanted to develop a Kung Fu-type character that would be more super-heroicky. (Iron Fist and his cast of characters being owned entirely by Marvel might have helped too). Chi certainly sounded more authentic, what with his more mundane adversaries and his wearing pyjamas instead of a costume with a mask.
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Post by Rob Allen on May 12, 2016 19:32:25 GMT -5
I wanted to see how the introductions of these characters happened in real time, so I compiled this timeline. It goes by cover date and covers 1972-74. I hope people find it useful.
6/72 - Hero for Hire #1 8/72 - Hero for Hire #2 10/72 - Hero for Hire #3 12/72 - Hero for Hire #4 1/73 - Hero for Hire #5 2/73 - Hero for Hire #6 3/73 - Hero for Hire #7 4/73 - Hero for Hire #8 5/73 - Hero for Hire #9 6/73 - Hero for Hire #10 7/73 - Hero for Hire #11 8/73 - Hero for Hire #12 9/73 - Hero for Hire #13 10/73 - Hero for Hire #14 11/73 - Hero for Hire #15 12/73 - Hero for Hire #16 . Special Marvel Edition #15 (1st Shang-Chi) 2/74 - Power Man #17 . Special Marvel Edition #16 4/74 - Power Man #18 . Master of Kung Fu #17 . Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #1 (Shang-Chi & Sons of the Tiger) 5/74 - Marvel Premiere #15 (1st Iron Fist) 6/74 - Power Man #19 . Master of Kung Fu #18 . Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #2 (Shang-Chi) 7/74 - Marvel Premiere #16 8/74 - Power Man #20 . Master of Kung Fu #19 . Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #3 (Shang-Chi & Sons of the Tiger) 9/74 - Marvel Premiere #17 . Master of Kung Fu #20 . Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #4 (Shang-Chi & Sons of the Tiger) 10/74 - Power Man #21 . Marvel Premiere #18 . Master of Kung Fu #21 . Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #5 (Shang-Chi) 11/74 - Marvel Premiere #19 . Master of Kung Fu #22 . Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #6 (Shang-Chi & Sons of the Tiger) 12/74 - Power Man #22 . Master of Kung Fu #23 . Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #7 (Shang-Chi & Sons of the Tiger)
Note: First Iron Fist appearance in DHOKF - #10, 3/75.
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