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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 9:25:50 GMT -5
Indeed. As it happens, I just recalled the other (very likely) telltale decal on the guy's truck -- "I Ride with Forrest." That almost has to be (& a quick Google search corroborated this) a reference to the founder of the Klan, Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest.
I suppose he picked the right place for such sentiments. Jefferson Davis' birthday is a state holiday.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 30, 2016 9:44:57 GMT -5
And that's not even mentioning how outright white supremacists have seized on the symbol. That, to me, is the most relevant point. That flag is now pretty close to Nazi Germany's in terms of what it symbolizes in today's society, and to most onlookers anyone waving it is not saying "I am proud of my southern heritage" but "I hate n****s". My thoughts exactly. It no longer represents "proud southerners" but rather "ignorant redneck racists", especially when used anywhere outside of the original Confederate states. On the plus side, however, they're advertising their prejudice and lack of social awareness, so at least others are forewarned before engaging them in any type of discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 9:47:44 GMT -5
Once I saw a Confederate flag decal shaped like the Bat symbol. That was really disheartening for me. I toured the first White House of the Confederacy there in Montgomery 3 years ago, Dan. Interesting museum. I also went to the state capitol, where, as you stated, Davis was sworn in. Which is more than I've ever done. (Ditto for, a couple of blocks down from there, Dexter Avenue Baptist Church, where the Montgomery Bus Boycott was brainstormed.) *sigh* |
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 30, 2016 10:49:35 GMT -5
Some fun trivia about Jefferson Davis. When he found out he was the president of the Confederacy, he had to travel from Mississippi (the Natchez area) to Montgomery through ... Atlanta! He took a steamboat to ... Memphis, Tennessee, and then the most direct RR route to Montgomery was through Atlanta! He traveled something like 1200 miles to get to a point that was only a few hundred miles from his original location. Why? Because the transportation system in the South was abominable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 12:21:33 GMT -5
The North had all the teleporters.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 30, 2016 12:42:07 GMT -5
the sensitivity of others, especially those descended from slaves, is more than enough for me to believe it needs to be left in the history books where it belongs. Even setting ideology aside, there's such a thing as politeness & the consideration of people's feelings -- supposedly a hallmark of Southern culture, or at least its good parts. Now mocked as "political correctness" by the folks who brought you "War is Peace," "Freedom is Slavery," and "Ignorance is Strength." Orwell might have written it as, "Respect is Weakness." |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 14:07:45 GMT -5
the sensitivity of others, especially those descended from slaves, is more than enough for me to believe it needs to be left in the history books where it belongs. Even setting ideology aside, there's such a thing as politeness & the consideration of people's feelings -- supposedly a hallmark of Southern culture, or at least its good parts. Now mocked as "political correctness" by the folks who brought you "War is Peace," "Freedom is Slavery," and "Ignorance is Strength." Orwell might have written it as, "Respect is Weakness." For the alliteration addicts among us -- "Courtesy is Cowardice." |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 30, 2016 14:13:38 GMT -5
Now mocked as "political correctness" by the folks who brought you "War is Peace," "Freedom is Slavery," and "Ignorance is Strength." Orwell might have written it as, "Respect is Weakness." For the alliteration addicts among us -- "Courtesy is Cowardice." Perfectly put. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 30, 2016 15:36:58 GMT -5
The North had all the teleporters. Well, that's where most industries were... Plus Kirk travelled back in time to help the north. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 5, 2016 10:18:16 GMT -5
I was in Wisconsin Dells for the day last Friday. For those outside the state, it's a tourist trap in the middle of the state that is obsessed with water parks. Fun to visit, but I'd hate to live there. We were in one of the numerous souvenir shops and I saw several items for sale with Confederate flags on them (boxes, bumper stickers, key chains, etc). Felt like throwing them, but I didn't want to have to pay for that garbage. I wish people would face up to it. The South is not going to rise again, the flag is not a symbol of southern heritage or pride, and it has become a symbol of racism. Leave it in the history books where it belongs.
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