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Post by chaykinstevens on Jun 11, 2017 9:47:46 GMT -5
Thanks Dupersuper. If I ever come across it, I'll take a look. Sterno also wrote Doctor Strange #27-30, 32-33, 35-37, 46-62, 65-73 & 75, with nice artwork from the likes of Tom Sutton, Gene Colan, Marshall Rogers, Michael Golden, Paul Smith, Kevin Nowlan, Dan Green and Steve Leialoha.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jun 11, 2017 10:49:39 GMT -5
Did Tommy Lee Jones ever find out amout Mike Deodato casting him as Norman Osborn? I'm surprised Marvel still allows this kind of thing after Amy Grant sued them over Jackson Guice's use of her image for Marie Laveau, the witch queen of New Orleans, in Doctor Strange. I think Deodato said he was paying homage to Paul Gulacy, who was always partial to referencing stills of movie stars.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 11, 2017 17:24:56 GMT -5
She was really the star of the Busiek run, IMO, she went from being an unsure villain pretending to be a hero to a really solid good guy and interesting character. I know at the time when Busiek had her as an Avenger-of-the-future in Avengers forever, people over on CBR were really excited at the prospect of her getting the 'promotion'. She's kicked around the edges since then (I think she was in the Sunspot Avengers team), but no one has really done here as well as Busiek from what I've read.
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Post by sabongero on Aug 15, 2017 11:51:37 GMT -5
She was really the star of the Busiek run, IMO, she went from being an unsure villain pretending to be a hero to a really solid good guy and interesting character. I know at the time when Busiek had her as an Avenger-of-the-future in Avengers forever, people over on CBR were really excited at the prospect of her getting the 'promotion'. She's kicked around the edges since then (I think she was in the Sunspot Avengers team), but no one has really done here as well as Busiek from what I've read. Interesting. I should do some backreading on the Busiek Thunderbolts run. So this would be around issues #1 to #37 right?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 16, 2017 23:47:21 GMT -5
Busiek's run lasted until #33... I recall Fabian Nicenza's right after being decent too, but he had alot of guest stars, and did alot with Citizen V.
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Post by sabongero on Aug 30, 2017 14:42:48 GMT -5
Justice #12.99 USD/4.00 CAN @ October 2005 Writer: Alex Ross & Jim Krueger Artist: Alex Ross & Doug Braithwaite Inker: Alex Ross Colorist: Alex Ross Letterer: Todd Klein Editor: Joey Cavalieri & Rachel Gluckstern Synopsis: We join the Justice League of America in action as there is a worldwide crisis happening all at the same time. Explosions and disasters are simultaneously occurring around the world, and even though the superheroes make it in time to try and disable the crisis, for some reason they are all a little too late in saving everyone. Some members perish. And then the world exploded, and Superman is the last man standing... in space. And one by one, each superhero/superheroine woke up from this nightmare. In different parts of the world, Aquaman and Captain Cold are in the middle of doing something. Aquaman prepares to responds to an emergency and says goodbye to his wife and infant son as he departs Atlantis. Captain Cold in the desert zaps a mountain with his cold gun. We join Aquaman as he encountered a domed spaceship beneath the waters, and was attacked by Black Manta and his goons. They overpower Aquaman, and he is brought inside the domed spaceship and his unconscious body is placed in the halls of what looked like the halls of the Legion of Doom cartoon. Black Manta is met by Lex Luthor. And he tells Black Manta to have a seat as others will be arriving to take their seats in the Hall of Doom. Comments: To those who have watched the Superfriends must have been jittery when they saw the dome, and then saw the Hall of Doom with the empty seats for each supervillain. It's a slow build up to something very ominous. It is a 12-issue limited series, and with the capture of Aquaman, you have a feeling, he's not the only superhero to fall. You just can't wait to read the upcoming issues and see what the Legion of Doom has in store for our heroes.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 30, 2017 17:02:45 GMT -5
I remember this came out at the same time as Infinite Crisis, and I remember realizing (not that far in) that both essentially had the same plot.
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Post by sabongero on Aug 30, 2017 17:08:16 GMT -5
I remember this came out at the same time as Infinite Crisis, and I remember realizing (not that far in) that both essentially had the same plot. But this one, I can just open up the pages and not read any of the dialogues and just look at the art. I never came across comic book in a museum-like painting style like the way Alex Ross presents his work. As for Infinite Crisis, all I seem to remember was Superboy Prime doing a heel turn and was the big baddie of that DC Event.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 30, 2017 17:12:14 GMT -5
I remember this came out at the same time as Infinite Crisis, and I remember realizing (not that far in) that both essentially had the same plot. But this one, I can just open up the pages and not read any of the dialogues and just look at the art. I never came across comic book in a museum-like painting style like the way Alex Ross presents his work. As for Infinite Crisis, all I seem to remember was Superboy Prime doing a heel turn and was the big baddie of that DC Event. I was just never a fan of Alex Ross. Realism has no place in superhero comics, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by sabongero on Aug 30, 2017 17:25:46 GMT -5
But this one, I can just open up the pages and not read any of the dialogues and just look at the art. I never came across comic book in a museum-like painting style like the way Alex Ross presents his work. As for Infinite Crisis, all I seem to remember was Superboy Prime doing a heel turn and was the big baddie of that DC Event. I was just never a fan of Alex Ross. Realism has no place in superhero comics, as far as I'm concerned. Once in a while on a limited series, no problem. I don't mind it, since I never encountered it before. However, I agree with you. I prefer comic book exagerrated art. Whether it's Michael Turner's style where everyone comes across as a supermodel, or Ed McGuniesses style of everyone as a bodybuilder on juice as examples, or Jae Lee's I don't know what to call that style.
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Post by sabongero on Aug 31, 2017 16:29:19 GMT -5
Astonishing X-Men v3 #1"Gifted (part 1)" 2.99 USD/4.25 CAN @ July 2004 Writer: Joss Whedon Artist: John Cassaday Inker: John Cassaday Colorist: Laura Martin Letterer: Chris Eliopolous Editor: Mike Marts Editor-in-Chief: Joe Quesada Synopsis: The story opened up with a girl, Tilde, screaming for Dr. Veeda, and the doctor comforting her. Then we go to Kitty Pryde arriving at the X-Mansion. As she phased through to enter, she recalled things when she was younger at the mansion like clowning around with Peter Rasputin or being a teenager and calling Professor X a jerk. She continues to daydream about yesteryear and phase through to her destination in the mansion, and finally arrived at the conference stage where she was late and with the conference already starting with hundreds of students and the faculty on the stage and Emma Frost on the mike, who proceeded to chastise Kitty Pryde about being late in front of the audience. A dejected Kitty took her seat. Emma continued with addressing the students intimating that she and Scott Summers will be head of the school in Professor Xavier's absence, with an absent Logan, Kitty Pryde, and present Henry McCoy as senior staff for the school. She continued with what the school is about and the guidelines and rules for the students. All of a sudden the ceilings bursts open and debris comes crashing down as several Sentinels attack. Scott and the team immediately start blasting and go into action, with the exception of Emma. Then Emma pushed buttons on the Danger Room, showing that the Sentinels are only holograms and that the auditorium is really the Danger Room. The horrified students are in a state of shock. Emma continued addressing the students including that "they" will always hate all of them. That is the first lesson. As she goes on addressing the students, the three school staffs in the platform looked dejected and pissed off. Afterwards, Emma and Scott have words in another location in the mansion. Scott told her that she should've warned them first. And then at Scott and Emma's bedroom later that night, as the two lovers are asleep, we suddenly have someone atop their bed who asked Scott, "Which part of the grieving is this?" And while Emma next to him in the bed is still asleep, a suddenly awakened Scott Summers blasted Logan with his optic blasts. It had enough force to send Wolverine crashing through the windows and landing all the way to the school grounds outside. Claws "snikted" out he rushed to go back inside to battle Scott Summers who was rushing to go outside to blast his teammate once more. The ruckus woke up the remaining staff and students and they headed outside as well. They exchange words, same old story, fighting about the now deceased Jean Grey. We cut to the next scene where Hank McCoy is admonishing Scott and Logan in front of Emma and Kitty in a closed door meeting, about violence in front of the students, and between administrative staff trying to kill each other among other things. He told them they should've been passed this nonsense already. Scott doesn't want to apologize to Logan and vice versa but Scott said he'll do it because they're a team and goes on a team leader speech. And they will go back to wearing costumes because superheroes wear costumes and because people get scared of the leather uniforms they have been sporting lately. And we get to see the team members for what they are envisioned by others, Hank as an articulate individual but only seen as a beast, Emma as a villain, Scott as a leader, Logan as thug, and Kitty Pryde as a protective mutant. Then the scene changes to Doctor Kavita about to make an entrance to address a crowd along with the little girl that was screaming earlier. Meanwhile at the grounds of X-Mansion Kitty Pryde is outside looking above in the sky for her pet dragon, Lockheed to see if he'd arrive. Logan joined her apologizing that he still loses "it" here and there. In the Dr,. Kavita conference, she asked the crowd what is a mutant. And terrorists armed with weapons barged in. There's a hostage situation covered by the media, and Scott and the group change into their costumes. And the costumed Astonishing X-Men walk into the hangar towards their Blackbird. Comments: This is actually a good combination. I always liked the fit of having Kitty Pryde and Wolverine in the team. Emma, a former villain, and now the lover and teammate of the the recently widowed (at the time) team leader, is a good way to change-up things and upset the status quo. I'm glad Kitty Pryde was mentioned, I always liked the little fella in the pages of the Uncanny X-Men. This comic book has a throwback effect like reading yester-years X-Men of the 80's while being updated to current times. The old rivalry between Scott and Logan is getting old, I guess those two will always be antagonistic towards each other. The boy scout and the thug. Glad to have Hank around to voice his reason and intelligence.
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Post by sabongero on Aug 31, 2017 17:16:37 GMT -5
Astonishing X-Men v3 #1 page 12
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Post by sabongero on Sept 1, 2017 17:03:25 GMT -5
Justice League of America v2 #02.99 USD/4.00 CAD @ September 2006 "Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow" Writer: Brad Meltzer Pencilers: Eric Wright, Dick Giordano, Tony Harris, George Perez, JH WIlliams III, Luke McDonnell, Gene Ha, Rags Morales, Ethan Van Sciver, Kevin Maguire, Adam Kubert, Dan Jurgens, Jim Lee, Howard Porter, Andy Kubert, Phil Jimenez, Ed Benes Inkers: Eric Wright, Dick Giordano, Tony Harris, George Perez, JH Williams III, Paul Neary, Gene Ha, Rags Morales, Ethan Van Sciver, Kevin Maguire, Adam Kubert, Kevin Nowlan, Jim Lee, Dexter Vines, Jesse Delperdang, Andy Lanning, Sandra Hope Colorist: Alex Sinclair Letterer: Rob Leigh Editors: Eddie Berganza & Jeanine Schaefer Synopsis: Basically, each page is a flashback in different times and eras of the Justice League where the Trinity of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman are interacting with each other both in costume, and in civilian mode. And it is all different flashbacks until the final page, where Batman suggest they vote in new teammates in the new League. Comments: This issue is worth it for the different illustrator and inker for each page's flashback Trinity-interaction story. You get different styles, showcasing that era's particular Justice League look. We even get a smiling Batman, pre-Dark Knight era illustration. The late Michael Turner's fantastic cover is amazing. It has the Trinity looking directly at a downward direction towards the reader. It is almost interactive in its conveyance.
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Post by sabongero on Sept 7, 2017 16:24:06 GMT -5
Fantastic Four #2320.50 USD @ July 1981 "Back to the Basics!" Writer: John Byrne Penciler: John Byrne Inker: John Byrne Colorist: Glynis Wein Letterer: Jim Novak Editor: Jim Salicrup Synopsis: The Fantastic Four's enemy, Diablo is conjuring magic in an apartment he is rendering. He conjured up the images of the Four, and conjures up smoke and vows to crush the Fantastic Four. In another part of Manhattan, Susan Storm is in a hair salon getting a new hairstyle. Outside the salon, a soil-like monster emerged from beneath the streets. The soil monster is after Susan Storm, and crashed through the salon. Using her invisible powers, Susan disappears, but the monster filled the room with flying clinging dirt, and it surrounded Susan and the dirt hardened, freezing her in her footsteps. Elsewhere in Manhattan, Ben Grimm/The Thing is enjoying his date with his girlfriend, the blind, Alicia Masters. Suddenly, rain pours, but only on Ben Grimm. All the rain liquid then turned into a bubble filled with the liquid and engulfed Ben Grimm within the bubble. The Thing, drowning and trapped inside the bubbled water, tried a last ditch effort to crash into the pavement, but it's no good as his lungs ran out of air. Above Central Park, Johnny Storm, the Human Torch, is flying and about to land to meet up with ex-girlfriend, Frankie Raye. The former love birds are having an emo dialogue about their complicated relationship. Suddenly, a gust of wind hit them. It became a spinning tornado effect, dropping Frankie in the bushes and bringing an unconscious Johnny Storm, who couldn't flame-on due to the heavy winds, in another part of Central Park. Reed Richards is the leader of the Fantastic Four. Inside the Baxter Building FF headquarters, in one of his laboratories, Reed Richards was working on one of his sensor devices when the room quite unexpectedly became red hot. He is then attacked by fireballs. He asked if it was Johnny Storm, but instead it was a fire monster. Shifting into a bouncing ball, Reed avoided further attacks and bounced out of the building escaping the fire monster. He changes to a sail and floats and sails down Manhattan. He ended up in Central Park, where he was hailed by Frankie Raye below. He asked about the whereabouts of Johnny Storm. She advised him over the rocks in the other part of Central Park. He found Johnny guarded by a tornado being, and subdued it by coiling around it. The fire monster that attacked Reed earlier arrived. Johnny Storm flames on, and the Human Torch battled the fire monster lighting up the Manhattan skyline as they battled above in the air. Reed devised a plan pretending to lose to the tornado being and pretending to flee. Back at the salon, Susan Storm was able free herself from the dirt incarceration and escaped the soil monster and headed outside in the streets. She tried to remember where Ben Grimm was going that day and proceeded to look for The Thing. The Thing meanwhile, in another last ditch effort headed to a sporting good store and fell backwards once inside, about to lose consciousness. A customer took a scuba tank and shoves it inside the bubbled water. The Thing inhaled fresh air. The water being then attached the woman who saved Ben Grimm. Ben Grimm then gets another air tank and shoves it inside the bubbled water so the woman can breath through the tank. The water being then left the woman and was poised to attack The Thing but then was placed in a trap in the middle of the air. The Invisible Woman arrived trapping the water being. Outside, the soil monster that was chasing Susan Storm was confronted by Ben Grimm. One punch from the Thing and the soil monster scattered into many pieces. Put then it reformed into a gigantic fist and punched The Thing, lifting him off his feet. From away Reed Richards witnessed Ben from the soil creature. He saw Sue emerge from the salon. Seeing an abandoned portable generator, Reed saw it was the thing he needed to stop the water being with Susan. As he approached her, the tornado air-like being that attacked Johnny Storm earlier, arrived and attacked Reed. Susan entrapped the tornado air being in a bubble of invisible force field. She let go of the water being as per Reed's instructions and he zapped the water being with the wires from the portable generator. It disappeared. As the soil monster battled the Thing, Reed screamed to Ben that in order to defeat the monster, the key is making them change into another state of matter, basically, transmutation. Ben found an exposed water pipe and hosed the soil monster, defeating it. Now on to Susan Storm, advised by Reed Richards, Susan concentrated and made the bubble surrounding the air creature very small building up pressure until it was so small the air turned to water and popped. Above the Manhattan skyline, the fire creature and the Human Torch continued their battle. Suddenly Johnny Storm came up with an idea to defeat the creature. He climbed up to a higher altitude and went Nova Flame, exploding the fire creature but Johnny flaming out and crashing into the Hudson River below. A tugboat below ferried to fetch a floating and drenched Human Torch. Later on, after fielding a telephone call from Johnny Storm citing he is okay, Reed Richards conferred with Ben Grimm and Susan Storm, and figured out who their foe was. Diablo. Later that evening, Diable disguised in a trench coat and hat, and holding a box of four things in them, left his apartment, but was suddenly en-coiled by Mr. Fantastic. They engage in a brief dialogue. Diablo asked how he was found. Reed Richards found him with the help of Earth's Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Strange. As the Fantastic Four rode the Fantasticar, they waved farewell to their friend, Doctor Strange. Comments: This is John Byrne's first full helm duty as scribe and illustrator of The Fantastic Four. It's the beginning of his illustrious run in the title. It is a smart approach to the characters of the comic book, and entertaining as well. Before Byrne, the Fantastic Four comic book was just chugging along and getting rather dormant. Action sequences were handled nicely, and the approach to defeating the villains were done intelligently. Even Mr. Clobberin' Time utilized his intelligence to defeat his opponent instead of just relying on his brute strength. Aside from Stan and Jack's initial run, this will become one of the memorable runs in this title.
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Post by sabongero on Sept 29, 2017 12:21:10 GMT -5
Thunderbolts #1122.99 USD/3.75 CAN @ May 2007 "Faith in Monsters: Part 3" Writer: Warren Ellis Artist: Mike Deodato, Jr. Colorist: Rain Bareto Letterer: Richard Starkins & Albert Deschesne Cover: Marko Djudjevic Editor: Molly Lazer Editor in Chief: Joe Quesada Synopsis: Thunderbolts chief, Norman Osborn, rips into his team citing that they couldn't take down a lone superhero, and in front of the television media. They were made to look inept, and the only team member to emerge with flying colors is the one that took down Jack Flag but cannot be seen on television, Bullseye. Team field leader, Moonstone, tried reverse psychology on Norman citing this is exactly what they needed, having unregistered superheroes as dangerous and will do anything not to be taken in by the Thunderbolts team. So Norman gets more appeal from the general populace. Songbird spoke in disagreement, because they are not a team, they are basically individuals going at the opponent one at a time and not working in unison, and she blames the fault on Moonstone. The two verbally joust with each other and it got ugly. Norman interjects himself and dismisses all with the escort of armed security guards, after all they are all still criminals. The lone exception is Radioactive Man, Dr. Chen, who was requested to be treated not as a criminal by the Chinese government. Dr, Chen wants the guards escorting him as it is not fair to his teammates. He also disliked his new costume. Norman explained to him why it is required for him as it is to quell the general American population from fear of his power and any radioactive leakage along with hiding his actual racial features as well. He also believed that Songbird should be leading the team. Norman disagreed telling him that Songbird may have heart, but heart is not enough, and that Songbird is a troubled woman, and that is why she is not leading the team in the field. After the meeting with Radioactive Man, Norman went outside his office to see his secretary and asked for the list. And he started laughing like the Green Goblin. He stopped and ordered her to find out who is their next target. We are then taken to a commercial with Stan Lee promoting the Thunderbolts team. And then to a news conference with Norman Osborn. He is scrutinized but also the unregistered superhumans list is talked about as well. In the jail cell of Venom, the symbiote left the host, revealing Matt Gargan. Norman Osborn brought clothing for Gargan to warm him up from his cold jail cell. He asked if Gargan wanted out of the team, of which he didn't. Although Gargan can't believe he survived this long. Then Norman visits Bullseye's cell. Bullseye is chained to the wall and is sitting down, telling Norman that the more he kills the more powerful he becomes, and he loves killing people. Norman ordered the guard outside Bullseye's cell that Bullseye gets no bathroom break in the next 24 hours. Then there's a scene on Jillian Woods' apartment. Waking up she told her sex buddy she doesn't know his name and that she has a job interview. She went to her closet to change, and next to her civilian clothes are a superhero or supervillain costume. Then the next scene takes us to the Navajo reservation of the Indian nation. A man named Jason who is looking at an Indian costume with a friend telling him this whole superhero registration business doesn't sit well with him, and that he'll do something about it. Then later that evening, a bank robbery is taking place. A "spider-like" costumed hero arrived and warned the bank robbers to step away. They do not agree, and a battle ensued. A violent battle where the "superhero" physically hurt them with broken bones and took them down. He told the criminals that when the cops arrive to tell them that the Steel Spider is still out here. Norman Osborn gets a call on the phone that the next target is the Steel Spider. And Norman starts losing it. He starts calling the Steel Spider, Spider-Man, and then he slowly laughs until he laughs out loud and uncontrollably sounding like the Green Goblin laughing once again. Comments: Bullseye's killing people is a religious experience for him. Every time he killed someone he felt he is getting closer to the status of a god. He's a deranged psychotic indeed. Moonstone has hatred for Songbird, and doesn't want to get involved in physical melees while she loved to order her teammates around. She also tries to reverse psychology upsmanship on Norman Osborn. Songbird's heart is not into this team anymore but will continue to work as she wants her release to a normal life. Radioactive Man just wants to put American superheroes away while making them look bad in the media. Venom is psychotic, but the host, Matt Gargan, is having doubts. Norman Osborn slips between normalcy and sociopathic lunacy. Certain triggers make him revert to the Green Goblin psychotic mode laughter. I like that there are three "superheroes" for the team to take down in the future. And since these are unknown heroes in general, that perhaps the Thunderbolts team can take them down violently in upcoming issues, to showcase this is indeed a menacing team of supervillains. Warren Ellis is doing a superb job showing that.
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