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Post by Red Oak Kid on Jun 25, 2016 16:20:06 GMT -5
A few artists have had a large influence on the work of other comic book artists.
I believe Milton Caniff and Neal Adams have influenced the largest number of artists.
If you look at the early work of Carmine Infantino and Joe Kubert, they were heavily influenced by Caniff as were many other Golden Age comic book artists.
And it's obvious that beginning in the 70s an entire generation of comic book artists were influenced by Neal Adams.
Am I overlooking any other artists who spawned a generation of imitators? Alex Raymond should probably be added to this list.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 25, 2016 16:40:49 GMT -5
You can actually trace the Caniff school to Noel Sickles. Caniff and Sickles were studio-mates and Caniff borrowed very heavily from Sickles' work particularly in the heavy blacks and his inking.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Jun 25, 2016 17:02:55 GMT -5
You can actually trace the Caniff school to Noel Sickles. Caniff and Sickles were studio-mates and Caniff borrowed very heavily from Sickles' work particularly in the heavy blacks and his inking. That's all true. I may be on shaky ground here but is it possible that Caniff's Terry and the Pirates reached a larger audience than the Sickles strip(whose title escapes me at the moment)? I think I've read more interviews with artists who mentioned Caniff more times than Sickles. I think Alex Toth's work was truer to the Sickles style but how many people draw like Toth? And I should have mentioned Jack Kirby. While I think Kirby's style caused a lot of people to want to draw comic books, they usually didn't stick with his style once they matured. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jun 25, 2016 17:05:03 GMT -5
You can see Kevin Nowlan in a lot of modern artists, such as Jim Lee, sadly not enough.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 25, 2016 17:34:02 GMT -5
You can actually trace the Caniff school to Noel Sickles. Caniff and Sickles were studio-mates and Caniff borrowed very heavily from Sickles' work particularly in the heavy blacks and his inking. That's all true. I may be on shaky ground here but is it possible that Caniff's Terry and the Pirates reached a larger audience than the Sickles strip(whose title escapes me at the moment)? I think I've read more interviews with artists who mentioned Caniff more times than Sickles. I think Alex Toth's work was truer to the Sickles style but how many people draw like Toth? And I should have mentioned Jack Kirby. While I think Kirby's style caused a lot of people to want to draw comic books, they usually didn't stick with his style once they matured. Terry was definitely a bigger strip than Scorchy Smith. At least ultimately it was. But it's really interesting to read Terry and watch the evolution of Caniff's work and the increasing influence that Sickles had on the strip. IDW's book, Scorchy Smith And The Art Of Noel Sickles, is still in print and available through Amazon and is highly recommended. You're right. You're going to see a lot more artists cite Caniff as an influence, be it through Terry or through Steve Canyon. But without Sickles, the Caniff we know would not be the Caniff we know now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:52:06 GMT -5
You can actually trace the Caniff school to Noel Sickles. Caniff and Sickles were studio-mates and Caniff borrowed very heavily from Sickles' work particularly in the heavy blacks and his inking. I think Alex Toth's work was truer to the Sickles style but how many people draw like Toth? I think Darwyn Cooke & Chris Samnee's style are similar to Toth's... |
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Post by berkley on Jun 25, 2016 18:54:59 GMT -5
You can see Kevin Nowlan in a lot of modern artists, such as Jim Lee, sadly not enough. I don't know Nowlan's art well enough to see what you're getting at there, but I think all too many superhero artists of the last 20 years or so look like Jim Lee. I have no idea where that style originated or who would be its main influence, but Lee, Silvestri, Bagley, and a whole lot of artists I don't know the names of because I avoid this kind of stuff like the plague all look similar to me. |
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 26, 2016 0:50:47 GMT -5
I think Will Eisner's work has influenced many.
Robert Crumb has to the alternatives.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jun 26, 2016 7:11:01 GMT -5
You can see Kevin Nowlan in a lot of modern artists, such as Jim Lee, sadly not enough. I don't know Nowlan's art well enough to see what you're getting at there, but I think all too many superhero artists of the last 20 years or so look like Jim Lee. I have no idea where that style originated or who would be its main influence, but Lee, Silvestri, Bagley, and a whole lot of artists I don't know the names of because I avoid this kind of stuff like the plague all look similar to me. Well, if you look at the Batman and The Outsiders annual by Nowlan, it's pretty obvious that the likes of Lee and Silvestri were deeply influenced by it when they were at the stage of starting image, but soon corrupted it. The facial expressions, hairstyles, even clothing, some of the body language... It's sooo similar, but corrupted by exessive inking and sketchy anatomical skills. Nowlan was actually hired by Wildstorm on more then a few occasions.   |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 7:46:45 GMT -5
Sadly, this is one area that I don't pay much attention to and that's why I don't even think about in my own lifetime. This is a great subject matter and being a student in art in both High School and College - I just can't think of one that had the most influence on other artists.
Red Oak Kid, great topic!
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 26, 2016 8:50:44 GMT -5
Besides Caniff and Raymond, two other newspaper strip strip artists were hugely influential on the Golden Age guys: Hal Foster and Burne Hogarth (three, if you factor in Roy Crane's obvious influence on Joe Shuster). Hogath, in particular, influenced the second generation of comic book artists, many of whom studied with him at whichever art school he wound up teaching at. Also, Lou Fine's experiments in page layout and design impacted the work of many of the people worked with at Eisner-Iger, particularly Jack Kirby and Mort Meskin (though neither echoed Fine's actual drawing style). And of course all these guys were devotees of the classic magazine illustrators of the '20s and '3os.
Cei-U!
I summon the stylistic family tree!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 26, 2016 12:16:16 GMT -5
I think Will Eisner's work has influenced many. Robert Crumb has to the alternatives. Eisner certainly influenced Ploog. |
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Post by dupersuper on Jun 28, 2016 5:33:08 GMT -5
Is Perez/Jiminez too obvious?
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Post by MDG on Jun 28, 2016 10:23:54 GMT -5
Wally Wood is probably one of the most influential comic artists to appear after the golden age. Echoes of Wood show up in superhero, genre, underground, and alternative comics from the mid-60s through the 80s.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jun 28, 2016 12:24:04 GMT -5
Neal Adams was obviously a huge influence on most modern artists who shoot for a quasi-photo realistic look, but the two that stand out the most for me are John Byrne and early Bill Sienkiewicz.
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