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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 28, 2016 5:52:03 GMT -5
In the thread Misleading Covers, fill- in issues are mentioned as being one of the disappointing factors. I was wondering which issues, over the years, have actually been good or memorable instead of being just an inventory story. I figure I will try my hand in reviewing some of these unheralded tales. This issue was an entertaining Done -in -one issue that appears to be thrown into the middle of the Fall of Hank Pym storyline. Avengers #218 Writer:J.M. DeMatteis, James Shooter Artist: Don Perlin The Story: A young boy comes to the Avengers Mansion demanding to see the Assemblers and as Jarvis is about to turn him away , the Wasp is swayed by the boys manners and offers to give him a tour of the Mansion.The boy pushes past her because he has a matter of grave importance that he needs help with. Thor Iron Man and Cap are in another area working on a huge device that Thor is holding up. The boy runs and trips almost injuring Shellhead but is saved by Captain America. When they listen to what the boy has to say, he tells them that he's been cursed with eternal life and wants the Avengers to help him die. To prove it, the boy pulls out a gun and shoots himself in the head. Shocked, the Avengers become distraught only to see the boys body disintegrate and reform into a live young boy again. After examining him, they determine that he might be the worlds first mutant but that he can't die. It becomes a philosophical debate because the boy claims that his life hasn't been one of greatness. He tells them that he has lived countless mundane lives and has grown tired of living. They tell him to stay at the mansion for the night in order to decide what to do with him but he runs away and heads to cape canaveral to stow away on a rocket ship headed to space In order to " Commit Suicide". When the ship goes into space, it goes off course and plunges into the sun. Nasa contacts the FF and the Avengers to get aid about the failed space shot and tell them that they did have a young boy sneak into the base but couldn't account for his whereabouts. Meanwhile, the boy does not die but comes back to each as a flaming giant bent on revenge for the event failing to destroy him. The Avengers arrive to try and contain the now flaming monster and when it appears that he is going to blow up and take the Eastern seaboard with him, Thor creates a vortex with his hammer and projects him into space seemingly killing the creature. The creature falls to earth and commits a lot of damage to the area but they find the boy alive without his memory. As they leave the scene with the naked boy wrapped in a cloth, the final panel shows an expression on his face showing that he didn't really lose his memory.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Jun 28, 2016 6:53:26 GMT -5
Great topic! I don't know if this really is my fave fill in ever, but it's certainly one that quickly came to mind : It's a very original and moving take on the superman origin, with Superman acting as some kind of god in a similar situation then his baby self was cast into before landing on earth. The art is functional, but certainly not worse then the howard Porter regular issues. Even though I highly enjoyed the Morrison run back then, maybe even more the Mark Waid fill ins, this one that transitioned the acclaimed run before the new regular writer came onboard probably is my favorite story of that JLA era. But then again, Dan Curtis Johnson is the guy who gave us Chase, a great underrated superhero comic book writer whao sadly has disappeared from the scene. here's the break down of the story : comicvine.gamespot.com/jla-42-half-a-mind-to-save-a-world/4000-109449/
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 28, 2016 7:17:27 GMT -5
Howard The Duck #16 is along those lines I think. What I liked about it was that it really dug into the psyche of Gerber as both a writer and as a person, something that I don't think is often explored much anymore in comics. It also kind of read like a free-form essay about his move to Las Vegas
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Post by berkley on Jun 28, 2016 7:43:36 GMT -5
HtD #16 would be top of the heap for me, but here are the other two that come immediately to mind:
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Post by foxley on Jun 28, 2016 7:45:02 GMT -5
Hellblazer #23 "Larger than Life" Writer: Jamie Delano Artists: Dean Motter (breakdowns); Ron Tiner This was one of a pair of 'done-in-one' stories Delano did at the end of of his run on Hellblazer. He had just completed a major story arc and was filling in time till Grant Morrison took over the title. This one doesn't even have consistent art, with Dean Motter doing the breakdowns and Ron Tiner (who would do all of the art on the next issue) doing the finishes and inks. It definitely has the feel of a fill-in, but it is a cracking little story nonetheless. The story (cribbed from comicvine): It's been three weeks since John Constantine was fished out of the ocean after his friends Zed and Marj raised the dragon. Now, he is hitchhiking to the Borough of Northampton, to meet his friend Jerry. Jerry is prone to prosaic speech, and he refuses to stop treating has life as though it is a work of fiction. At first, Jerry is reluctant to let John inside, and his reluctance proves worthwhile when a blind man pushes his way past John, through the door. The man delivers a scrap of paper to Jerry, before John manages to chase him out into the street. Somehow, John loses track of the man outside. Jerry explains that the blind man came to give him the black spot - the legendary sign of doom for all pirates. As it turns out, Jerry has recently been plagued by visits from storybook characters. Just recently, Sherlock Holmes had come to his door and warned that Jerry had out-stepped his bounds, and belonged to literature - not the real world. He warned that someone would be coming for Jerry soon. John decides to take his friend out drinking, but the bar they attend is full of characters from storybooks, and they are forced to sneak out the back. Eventually, Jerry is ensnared in a trap by the storybook characters, who lead him into the public library. John attempts to follow, but Sherlock Holmes prevents him from entering. Inside, the many characters hold a trial against Jerry for bending the lines between fact and fiction. John watches as Jerry is sentenced and taken away.
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Post by Confessor on Jun 28, 2016 20:40:30 GMT -5
Probably my favourite ever deadline doom, fill-in comic would be Star Wars #17 from 1978... The story was called "Crucible!" and was a flashback tale showing events in the life of Luke Skywalker on his home planet of Tatooine, set not long before the start of the original Star Wars film. It was written by Chris Claremont and Archie Goodwin, and brilliantly drawn by Herb Trimpe. It's a real gem from the early part of Marvel's original SW run. I reviewed it here.
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Post by dupersuper on Jun 28, 2016 21:21:57 GMT -5
I was impressed by Roger Sterns ability to match Gail Simones humour and tone in this one:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 22:19:44 GMT -5
Probably my favourite ever deadline doom, fill-in comic would be Star Wars #17 from 1978... The story was called "Crucible!" and was a flashback tale showing events in the life of Luke Skywalker on his home planet of Tatooine, set not long before the start of the original Star Wars film. It was written by Chris Claremont and Archie Goodwin, and brilliantly drawn by Herb Trimpe. It's a real gem from the early part of Marvel's original SW run. For some reason I own 3 copies of this issue. I suspect the cover "got me" a few times when digging for back issues at the used bookstore where I started my Star Wars comic collection.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 12, 2016 16:34:53 GMT -5
Issue: Hulk # 222 Writer: Len Wein Artists: Jim Starlin/ Alfrado Alcala
The Story: The issue opens with the Hulk on the run from the military , who he happened to run into during war excercises in the desert. They attack him and, after a short battle , take him down with gas. When He hits the ground he is found by two small children who call for their older brother who drags the unconscience Hulk to a cave. The Hulk wakes up some time later as Banner and talks to the two children who are called Donny and Marie. ( Yeah, I know). Banner begins to ask the kids how he got there and to explain what’s happening and sees a huge figure in the shadows. Bruce see’s a caldron with Human bones scattered around the it and he asks the kids to expalin why they are in the cave. The two children tell the story of a family that had a newborne exposed to toxic waste and developed canabalistic behavior. After their parents “disappeared” Billy, the altered sibling, took them away to live far from the authorities that wanted to capture him. The Children leave the terrified Banner to his fate as the monsterous Brother attacks him. After a spirited battle, the cave begins to collapse and the Hulk escapes leaving the monster for dead. Comments: I consider this a fill in because of the guest artwork by Starlin and Alcala. Their combined art is a treat to the senses. The way this adventure is dropped into the series makes it seem that it was meant as a fill in.
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Post by sabongero on Jul 12, 2016 16:48:40 GMT -5
It was some time around 2006, and Jeph Loeb was leaving the series, and Marc Verheiden was going to take over the writing duties. Jeph's son passed away, and the kid came up with this story. In his memory, it's the Who's Who of DC's writers and illustrators that put together this one and done issue to bring Sam Loeb's story to life. It is about the death of Superboy (who died recently back then in the Infinite Crisis saga). It was a nice tribute.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 18, 2016 8:36:41 GMT -5
Avengers # 157 “ A Ghost of Stone” Writer: Gerry Conway Artist: Don Heck Inker: Pablo Marcos This issue begins with YellowJacket, Iron Man and the Beast in the lab when they are showered with debris from a wall that is being destroyed by an intruder. The shadowy figure attacking them is revealed to be the Stone Statue of the Black Knight ( Dane Whitman) last seen during the Avengers/Defenders war that ran thought Avengers 116-118 and Defenders 7-11. After he subdues them he searches the rest of the Avengers mansion and attacks Captain America and the Wasp taking them down, as well. There are flash backs to the stone BK being annimated by a metallic gloved hand touching him from a dimensional portal. Another flashback has him witness to the gathering of the Avengers and Defenders after their fight and he is angry that they left him in his stone form. We cut away to The Scarlet Witch and Simon ( Wonderman) doing some Christmas shopping and some heroics as they save people from a runaway bus. When they return to the mansion, Wanda Is sucker punched by the BK and he knocks out Simon afterwards. While standing over the unconscience bodies the BK states that he has three of the seven Avengers that betrayed him with only Thor and the Black Panther remaining. He seems to know that the Mantis is “ no more” and unavailable to be hunted down. He drags all his captives to the lab when the Vision phases through the wall and confronts him. After trading a few punches , he demands to know who he is fighting with. The Stone figure tells him he’s Dane Whitman and the Vision tells him he couldn’t be because the real Dane is back in the 12th Century. Enraged and in denial ,the Statue resumes his assault of the Android but he is punching a diamond hard oponent and soon crumbles into pieces of stone. Comments: I rate this a fill-in even though Conway was the regular writer from 151-157 because of the stand alone nature of the story and the guest art by comic legend Don Heck. The following issue is the start of Jim Shooters first run on the title. Pablo Marcos seems an odd choice to ink Hecks art given the difference in styles but , to his credit, he doesn’t overpower Hecks pencils. It is never revealed in this stand alone issue who is it that brought the statue to life. I’m not sure if in a future issue it is revealed to be Ultron, or just left a dangling plot point but it seems important to me. It is a bit ghastly to see the statue dismember itself while attacking the Vision in the end. I’m not comfortable with the ease the statue knocks out Wonder man. Simon is Thor level strength and shouldn’t have gone down as he did. It’s never explained how the statue knows how the Mantis is no longer in existence. I give this issue a 2 1/2 out of 5.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 13:07:41 GMT -5
I would argue it's not a fill in because the next issue box of #156 tells us The Ghost of Stone is the story next month, so it's not like the deadline hit and hey ran something other than the intended issue, it was the intended issue even if it had a different art team.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 18, 2016 13:17:58 GMT -5
I would argue it's not a fill in because the next issue box of #156 tells us The Ghost of Stone is the story next month, so it's not like the deadline hit and hey ran something other than the intended issue, it was the intended issue even if it had a different art team. -M I see your point but the issue doesn't address any continuity relating to the issues surrounding it. It almost reads like an inventory story.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 18, 2016 13:46:43 GMT -5
Avengers #178, and #179-180 are all inventory/deadline stories in the purest sense. And they all suck to high heaven.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 14:09:03 GMT -5
I would argue it's not a fill in because the next issue box of #156 tells us The Ghost of Stone is the story next month, so it's not like the deadline hit and hey ran something other than the intended issue, it was the intended issue even if it had a different art team. -M I see your point but the issue doesn't address any continuity relating to the issues surrounding it. It almost reads like an inventory story. Except the very next issue picks up wher eit left off with the Avengers standing over the ruins of the shattered stone golem leading to the Vision-Wonder Man fight...so if you read 158 without 157, you don't know what's happening, so it is definitely part of the broader narrative of the series. 156 wrapped up the Attuma storyline and 157 set into motion a series of events that led to the Korvac saga, it's definitely the first part of that ongoing narrative as it sets up the events of 158, so it's not a standalone inventory story. -M
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