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Post by badwolf on Jun 18, 2019 10:54:37 GMT -5
That's pretty good. Even though a lot of that era is pretty cringey now, I'd love to see all the extra features. I've got the Tom Baker season 1 set.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 1, 2019 16:45:25 GMT -5
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 5, 2019 7:06:35 GMT -5
That's pretty good. Even though a lot of that era is pretty cringey now, I'd love to see all the extra features. I've got the Tom Baker season 1 set. Cringey!!!?  |
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Post by badwolf on Jul 5, 2019 8:36:36 GMT -5
That's pretty good. Even though a lot of that era is pretty cringey now, I'd love to see all the extra features. I've got the Tom Baker season 1 set. Cringey!!!? Yeah, but I don't blame Colin, I blame JNT. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 5, 2019 13:56:26 GMT -5
Cringey!!!? Yeah, but I don't blame Colin, I blame JNT. I don't find any of Colin's era "cringey". I think it's wonderful. I loved it at the time, and I still do! The only part of classic Who that I genuinely couldn't stand was Sylvester McCoy's first story. |
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Post by badwolf on Jul 5, 2019 17:54:18 GMT -5
Yeah, but I don't blame Colin, I blame JNT. I don't find any of Colin's era "cringey". I think it's wonderful. I loved it at the time, and I still do! The only part of classic Who that I genuinely couldn't stand was Sylvester McCoy's first story. I found the Doctor obnoxious and Peri supremely annoying in the stories I've re-watched more recently. Plus there's silly stuff like "The tree can't hurt you!"
Syl had a rough start but by I think his second or third season he started having some really good stuff. Remembrance of the Daleks, Ghost Light, Survival are among my all-time favorites.
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 7, 2019 5:32:30 GMT -5
I don't find any of Colin's era "cringey". I think it's wonderful. I loved it at the time, and I still do! The only part of classic Who that I genuinely couldn't stand was Sylvester McCoy's first story. I found the Doctor obnoxious and Peri supremely annoying in the stories I've re-watched more recently. Plus there's silly stuff like "The tree can't hurt you!"
Syl had a rough start but by I think his second or third season he started having some really good stuff. Remembrance of the Daleks, Ghost Light, Survival are among my all-time favorites.
Well, we're definitely in agreement on Sylv. His third season was one of my favourites in the entire classic series. But I loved Colin's abrasive take on the character. It was fresh and new, and very funny at times (plus, I'd always found Davison a bit bland). |
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Post by Jesse on Jul 7, 2019 11:21:33 GMT -5
Interesting interview with Sean Pertwee
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 7, 2019 14:29:52 GMT -5
I found the Doctor obnoxious and Peri supremely annoying in the stories I've re-watched more recently.
I loved Colin's abrasive take on the character. It was fresh and new, and very funny at times (plus, I'd always found Davison a bit bland). I wanted to love the Colin Baker doctor, I thought he was great casting for the part originally, but something really went wrong for me (and lots of others leading to suspension/cancellation) and I found it to be pretty much as badwolf found it. I couldn't stand Peri anyway. I think there was a chemistry between Colin and Nicola that was real that showed through a bit on-screen after awhile but at the start I wondered why they would have had anything to do with the other, they seemed to bicker and fight so much. Even the horrid costume could've worked. I think Colin could've stayed and JNT should've been replaced, and said a few times he wanted to be, but at the time I understood nobody else wanted the gig. Peri and Mel; two of the worst and most shrill companions, more whinging Peri than screamy Mel, though Mel's daft look alongside Colin's was overkill factor ten.  Also agree first Sylvester McCoy was pretty campy and dumbed-down, at least fun to see O'Mara sending up Mel, and the Tetraps were potentially interesting. JNT had some kind of thing against using older experienced writers much but it's what the show desperately needed a lot of the time. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 7, 2019 15:02:11 GMT -5
I loved Colin's abrasive take on the character. It was fresh and new, and very funny at times (plus, I'd always found Davison a bit bland). I wanted to love the Colin Baker doctor, I thought he was great casting for the part originally, but something really went wrong for me (and lots of others leading to suspension/cancellation) and I found it to be pretty much as badwolf found it. I couldn't stand Peri anyway. I think there was a chemistry between Colin and Nicola that was real that showed through a bit on-screen after awhile but at the start I wondered why they would have had anything to do with the other, they seemed to bicker and fight so much. Even the horrid costume could've worked. I think Colin could've stayed and JNT should've been replaced, and said a few times he wanted to be, but at the time I understood nobody else wanted the gig. Peri and Mel; two of the worst and most shrill companions, more whinging Peri than screamy Mel, though Mel's daft look alongside Colin's was overkill factor ten. Also agree first Sylvester McCoy was pretty campy and dumbed-down, at least fun to see O'Mara sending up Mel, and the Tetraps were potentially interesting. JNT had some kind of thing against using older experienced writers much but it's what the show desperately needed a lot of the time. I think he believed older and more experienced writers might undermine his authority and the direction he wanted to take the show in. |
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Post by badwolf on Jul 8, 2019 8:09:31 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone besides me has seen these, but in the 90s, when DW was on "hiatus", an independent production company called BBV produced a series of videos called The Stranger, which featured Baker and Bryant as a mysterious, very Doctor-like character and his companion, Miss Brown.  They were atmospheric, ambiguous and subtle--quite the opposite of what the show was during Baker's tenure. I think they really showed what he could have been as the Doctor had someone more...tasteful had been in charge. The same company also produced some stand-alone SF/horror stories featuring various former DW actors. Colin and Nicola played a married couple in one of them...it was certainly odd to see them in bed together! But those videos are good as well. I only saw them on VHS, but according to Wikipedia The Stranger at least was available on DVD at one time. Writer/actor Mark Gatiss (who later wrote for and starred in the current DW series) thinks they are horrible and said they would never see light of day again, but I think he is wrong and am putting it down to just someone who doesn't like their early work. I think they're good and worth tracking down. The Airzone Solution, an eco-horror/SF story, at least, is available from Amazon streaming. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 8, 2019 12:04:41 GMT -5
I've seen some if not all of The Stranger, it's as if they all wanted to prove they could do something right. A bit low budget but it's not like 1984-86 Doctor Who wasn't. There were a bunch of these sorts of productions in between the old Who and new revival, one had Sontarans and Blake's 7 actors and another finished the Yeti stores from the '60s.
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Post by badwolf on Jul 9, 2019 11:37:39 GMT -5
Oh yeah, "Shakedown" -- had Jan Chappell and Brian Croucher from B7, and Sophie Aldred, Carole Ann Ford and Michael Wisher of DW. That was pretty good too. I never saw the Yeti one.
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 12, 2019 7:28:57 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone besides me has seen these, but in the 90s, when DW was on "hiatus", an independent production company called BBV produced a series of videos called The Stranger, which featured Baker and Bryant as a mysterious, very Doctor-like character and his companion, Miss Brown. They were atmospheric, ambiguous and subtle--quite the opposite of what the show was during Baker's tenure. I think they really showed what he could have been as the Doctor had someone more...tasteful had been in charge. The same company also produced some stand-alone SF/horror stories featuring various former DW actors. Colin and Nicola played a married couple in one of them...it was certainly odd to see them in bed together! But those videos are good as well. I only saw them on VHS, but according to Wikipedia The Stranger at least was available on DVD at one time. Writer/actor Mark Gatiss (who later wrote for and starred in the current DW series) thinks they are horrible and said they would never see light of day again, but I think he is wrong and am putting it down to just someone who doesn't like their early work. I think they're good and worth tracking down. The Airzone Solution, an eco-horror/SF story, at least, is available from Amazon streaming. I bought most of the BBV stuff, including the Stranger series, on VHS at the time, and have since bought them all on DVD. I actually think they're quite wonderful, in many cases better than some televised Doctor Who. Thee were several others produced by Reeltime Pictures in the same timeframe, too. |
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 12, 2019 7:30:23 GMT -5
I've seen some if not all of The Stranger, it's as if they all wanted to prove they could do something right. A bit low budget but it's not like 1984-86 Doctor Who wasn't. There were a bunch of these sorts of productions in between the old Who and new revival, one had Sontarans and Blake's 7 actors and another finished the Yeti stores from the '60s. Downtime. Amazing story. It actually introduced the character of Kate Lethbridge-Stewart, who later made it into the TV show. |
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