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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 23:18:06 GMT -5
I voted five years simply because there's a huge gap between about 1985 and 2008 that I mostly don't read at all.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 1, 2014 23:23:30 GMT -5
I chose ten years (and that's how I'll continue to define it in future Classic Comics Christmases) but really I'm fine with whatever the general consensus turns out to be. For me "classic" isn't about age but timelessness.
Cei-U! I summon the makes no nevermind!
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 1, 2014 23:49:27 GMT -5
I voted for 1991, but it really is subjective given your age, when you started reading, etc. Part of me wants to make it easy and say 25 years ago from the current date. (If only to mimic the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame's criteria)
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Post by Dizzy D on May 2, 2014 4:31:25 GMT -5
I tend to go with 10 years.
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Post by foxley on May 2, 2014 4:45:57 GMT -5
The problem with "Newsprint" is that it's a static point in time. I understand not wanting to be wishy-washy in our definition, but the "Modern Age" inevitably moves as years progress and the comic industry changes. Shouldn't the demarcation between modern and classic therefore move with it? It's not really a static point in time at all when you factor in independent comics, some of which were using high quality papers decades before Marvel and DC. And I'd hate to think that I couldn't discuss The New Teen Titans because it was printed on Baxter paper. (Mind you, Baxter paper is not a term you hear any more. I guess I'm showing my age here.)
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Post by Icctrombone on May 2, 2014 6:30:29 GMT -5
I'll go with 1986. That seems to be the year that comics got grim and gritty to stay.
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Post by Jesse on May 2, 2014 6:37:03 GMT -5
20 years classic and 30 years antique.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 2, 2014 8:03:42 GMT -5
I have this conversation with my wife about music all the time. Is 'classic' a distance from current, or an era? She thinks the latter... Pearl Jam or STP can never be 'classic', they're grunge/alternative. 'Classic' is the 60s and early 70s.
Applied to comics, Id call 'classic' comics the heyday of the Marvel and DC universes...up to Claremont for Marvel, From the DC implosion to Zero Hour over there.
I'm not huge on strict definitions though. I think for forum purposes anything since Marvel now/new 52. Would make sense as 'current'
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 8:37:48 GMT -5
Anything with a 35-cent price tag or below is classic -- so, up until 12/78, I'm pretty sure, which of course would include B&W mags, giant-sizes, treasuries, etc. with higher cover prices.
Anything after that is not.
C'mon -- everybody knows that.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 9:39:35 GMT -5
It's not really a static point in time at all when you factor in independent comics, some of which were using high quality papers decades before Marvel and DC. And I'd hate to think that I couldn't discuss The New Teen Titans because it was printed on Baxter paper. (Mind you, Baxter paper is not a term you hear any more. I guess I'm showing my age here.) Baxter is still my favorite paper. It can't quite reproduce the fancy colors in a lot of modern comics, but it's super white and non glossy finish made for easy page turning, no glare and crisp images. And for the time the color baxter paper comics blew the four color on newsprint out of the water. That's what made me fall in love with Corben, some random color comic I found in a bargain bin that was just unlike anything Marvel or DC had.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 2, 2014 9:42:25 GMT -5
I'll go with 1986. That seems to be the year that comics got grim and gritty to stay. "Grim and gritty" became more apparent with the advent of Image, but from the moment Watchmen and TDKR saw the light of day, it was just a question of time to start getting copycats left and right.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 2, 2014 9:47:49 GMT -5
Baxter is still my favorite paper. It can't quite reproduce the fancy colors in a lot of modern comics, but it's super white and non glossy finish made for easy page turning, no glare and crisp images. And for the time the color baxter paper comics blew the four color on newsprint out of the water. That's what made me fall in love with Corben, some random color comic I found in a bargain bin that was just unlike anything Marvel or DC had. Yes, it holds very well. And you don't need contemporary coloring all the time.
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Post by infobroker on May 2, 2014 9:49:12 GMT -5
I went with the ten marker, but I won't get down on anyone using the old "two year delineation" of previous administrations from distant lands (and messaging boards). I plan to do a lot of talking about Astro City regardless of the eventual consensus ruling.
-jb the (I have my standards) ib -
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Post by infobroker on May 2, 2014 9:55:28 GMT -5
"There have been 24 votes by 19 voters."
D*mn these computer tabulating contraptions! No paper trail.
-jb the (when did I get transported to Florida?) ib -
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 2, 2014 9:55:58 GMT -5
I wonder if an even better marker for "classic" might be when Marvel and DC started publishing graphic novels? It seems to me that that's a clear indicator that comics had moved from just being relatively light entertainment's for kids and children of all ages, to books specifically aimed at adults.
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