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Post by brutalis on Jan 21, 2020 16:25:44 GMT -5
Yeah, kids today don't recognize "camp" or early Sci-Fi. They consider it being to dumb or low brow. NONE of my friends boys like anything about Galactica except for the original Cylon Centurions. Buck Rogers is a no way at all for them. Same for 70's or 80's shows like Wonder Woman, Hulk, Spider-Man, Kolchak, Night Gallery, Beauty and the Beast, Batman, Superman, etc. Same as to "older" cartoons for the most part. They laugh at Thundercats, Silverhawks, He-Man, She-Ra, Transformers, GI Joe and the like. All are to "hokey" and/or cheap to them as if they never grew up with stupid/dumb/cheap, but with internet/cable/satellite these days there are more choices than just to watch is on the 4 channels over the air.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 0:18:57 GMT -5
Finished watching the first episode of Star Trek: Picard and it was so good. Better than I could have imagined, all while bringing the feels. Sir Patrick Stewart brought his A++ game. I cannot wait for the next episode.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jan 24, 2020 12:59:57 GMT -5
Yeah, kids today don't recognize "camp" or early Sci-Fi. They consider it being to dumb or low brow. NONE of my friends boys like anything about Galactica except for the original Cylon Centurions. Buck Rogers is a no way at all for them. Same for 70's or 80's shows like Wonder Woman, Hulk, Spider-Man, Kolchak, Night Gallery, Beauty and the Beast, Batman, Superman, etc. Same as to "older" cartoons for the most part. They laugh at Thundercats, Silverhawks, He-Man, She-Ra, Transformers, GI Joe and the like. All are to "hokey" and/or cheap to them as if they never grew up with stupid/dumb/cheap, but with internet/cable/satellite these days there are more choices than just to watch is on the 4 channels over the air. How terribly, terribly sad.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 24, 2020 13:10:39 GMT -5
Yeah, kids today don't recognize "camp" or early Sci-Fi. They consider it being to dumb or low brow. NONE of my friends boys like anything about Galactica except for the original Cylon Centurions. Buck Rogers is a no way at all for them. Same for 70's or 80's shows like Wonder Woman, Hulk, Spider-Man, Kolchak, Night Gallery, Beauty and the Beast, Batman, Superman, etc. Same as to "older" cartoons for the most part. They laugh at Thundercats, Silverhawks, He-Man, She-Ra, Transformers, GI Joe and the like. All are to "hokey" and/or cheap to them as if they never grew up with stupid/dumb/cheap, but with internet/cable/satellite these days there are more choices than just to watch is on the 4 channels over the air. That's probably because most of them are objectively bad and they've grown up with better programming available on multiple platforms.
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Post by String on Jan 24, 2020 18:56:07 GMT -5
I love original BSG. The Gun on Ice Planet Zero two-parter, Commander Cain, Count Iblis and the white lights, even when they found Terra. Galactica 1980? Yes, that was bad.
Buck Rogers in the 25th century is wonderful camp, love it.
Thundercats may not have aged well but the reboot version of a few years ago was pretty good in re-imagining it's mythos. Sadly though, apparent lack of toy sales helped to cancel it.
As for Transformers and GI Joe, I would gladly, gladly take both original cartoons over the rubbish live action films made from both franchises. In fact, the Transformers cartoon movie is still better than all the garbage Bey has ever released.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 25, 2020 9:50:13 GMT -5
Finished watching the first episode of Star Trek: Picard and it was so good. Better than I could have imagined, all while bringing the feels. Sir Patrick Stewart brought his A++ game. I cannot wait for the next episode. Just finished it myself and I thought it was fantastic! It's a very different type of show than any previous iteration of Trek but I love the sci-fi ideas it looks like its going to be playing with.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 11:17:34 GMT -5
Finished watching the first episode of Star Trek: Picard and it was so good. Better than I could have imagined, all while bringing the feels. Sir Patrick Stewart brought his A++ game. I cannot wait for the next episode. Couldn't have put it better, myself. I don't like cash-in sequels, I want sequels to be "organic" natural progressions of characters, concepts, arcs. Picard feels like one. I am intrigued by many of the ideas presented, and I was left wanting more by the end of the episode. That's always a good sign.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 6, 2020 13:13:46 GMT -5
Picard continues to move slowly plotwise but the characters are great
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Post by brutalis on Feb 6, 2020 13:29:54 GMT -5
Watched Picard episode 1 for free on Youtube over the weekend. Good episode setting the premise up but personally I am somewhat tired of the Federation taken over from within aspect. Hoping there is more "twist" given to it this go around. Stewart IS Picard and i have no reservations over his role in this. Those other actors within the 1st episode didn't ignite any loathing or OMG reactions from me, so will have to see how they do in the long run. It did feel somewhat slower paced but I grant that they aren't having to fit it all into one episode or movie and can they take a bit more leisurely route in getting to where they are going. Again the final pay-off needs to be spectacular enough in making up for the slower pace.
Some things stand out for me: Someone needs to tell Spiner his days as Data are done and gone forever. You cannot play a synthezoid who doesn't age when you have. No amount of effects is going to change that and though I do appreciate all he has achieved with the role, please say no Brent. What little I have seen of the special effects shows the sense/feeling of Star Trek without tossing away the classic styles and will judge when I see more. I think the Romulan's all look just a little too human (subdued forehead effect?) and after all the years of seeing them in military cut clothes and hair it feels "odd" seeing them in natural clothing and long hair. This essentially makes them look no different than Vulcan's at a first glance. I am somewhat "hesitant" to say that in all the decades you might think news reporters may have changed, but guess not? Boy does this episode smack of the whole "what have you done lately for us" syndrome. I did like seeing the home futuristic nods with holograms/projection and a quiet nod to Picard's new #1 (nice that they let him work in his personal dedication to Pitbull's) and look forward to seeing whatever "new" differences that have occurred over the last few years for the universe and the Trek characters specifically.
Now i just have to avoid reviews and such until the dang thing comes out on DVD for me to buy and watch.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 6, 2020 13:58:39 GMT -5
Brent's definitely aged but it didn't bother me at all, and I'm not sure I understand the push back on him...it's fiction and the cast has aged even if a character might not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 14:08:28 GMT -5
No spoilers, but I will say this about episode 2: episode 1, which I did enjoy, was slow-burning (in a good way), but episode 2 switched back to first gear. I want the show to reach fourth gear soon.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 6, 2020 14:18:26 GMT -5
No spoilers, but I will say this about episode 2: episode 1, which I did enjoy, was slow-burning (in a good way), but episode 2 switched back to first gear. I want the show to reach fourth gear soon. Three is more of the same but it looks like four will pick up.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 28, 2020 19:35:52 GMT -5
Man, although it's true Patrick Stewart has aged well it was crazy seeing just how much younger he looked back during the TNG days in the latest episode. I mean, I've watched episodes of TNG hundreds of times since it left the air but never juxtaposed to modern day Stewart and the difference was stunning. They overlay-ed a hologram as Picard as Locutis over Old man Picard's face and not only did the over lay of the borg implants look eerie but the less lined visage left an impression as well; giving you a sense of just how much has changed since he left the Enterprise.
It was a single moment but it was powerful none the less.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 27, 2020 20:07:15 GMT -5
I’ve just watched a clip of the tenth episode of Picard...
Darn, despite my carefully polished cynicism, these characters can still get to me!
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 28, 2020 22:21:04 GMT -5
Yeah, kids today don't recognize "camp" or early Sci-Fi. They consider it being to dumb or low brow. NONE of my friends boys like anything about Galactica except for the original Cylon Centurions. Buck Rogers is a no way at all for them. Same for 70's or 80's shows like Wonder Woman, Hulk, Spider-Man, Kolchak, Night Gallery, Beauty and the Beast, Batman, Superman, etc. Same as to "older" cartoons for the most part. They laugh at Thundercats, Silverhawks, He-Man, She-Ra, Transformers, GI Joe and the like. All are to "hokey" and/or cheap to them as if they never grew up with stupid/dumb/cheap, but with internet/cable/satellite these days there are more choices than just to watch is on the 4 channels over the air. Camp is an acquired taste to be sure, some having a higher tolerance for it than others. For example, I love classic Doctor Who, but watching too many episodes/serials in succession can kind of become a little taxing on me. Maybe it's just burnout? IDK
I've never felt that way with Star Trek though, it's always felt cozy and inviting, like a good book and a hot beverage
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