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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 19:08:13 GMT -5
I dug through my collection to fill in some of the blanks in the Warlock saga. first up the page from Warlock #15 where the hermit predicts his future.  All the the events that the Hermit tells him come true except him killing the High Evolutionary. Or does it ? This is from Marvel Two in One #62   |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 18, 2016 19:11:01 GMT -5
I hadn't read Marvel Two in One #62. Clearly, there's a lot more to the Thanos/Warlock Saga than either the Avengers vs. Thanos or The Complete Warlock tpbs sought to include. I never ever depend upon tpbs before, and the one time I have, I've been shown exactly why I shouldn't ever do that again.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 19:12:20 GMT -5
Next up is the explaination of how he grows and reverts back to regular size   turns out the alien Sphinxor tampered with the soul gem and used powers of illusion to fool him into thinking the counter earth was destroyed by the HE, thus sending him into a murdeous rage. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 19:15:10 GMT -5
I hadn't read Marvel Two in One #62. Clearly, there's a lot more to the Thanos/Warlock Saga than either the Avengers vs. Thanos or The Complete Warlock tpbs sought to include. I never ever depend upon tpbs before, and the one time I have, I've been shown exactly why I shouldn't ever do that again. It's a nice three parter where the being called "Her" tries to find Warlock and resurrect him. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 19:16:16 GMT -5
It's kind of important but was never referenced again.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 18, 2016 19:21:23 GMT -5
It's kind of important but was never referenced again. My big complaint with "The Complete Warlock" is that it only concerns itself with the Magus and Thanos storylines, completely missing all the big stuff that happened with Counter-Earth prior to that and (apparently) anything regarding Counter-Earth and The High Evolutionary after. That material deserves to be collected. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 19:23:59 GMT -5
That's why there's nothing like the originals, baby.  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 18, 2016 19:29:46 GMT -5
Note : the Sphinxor who's in the business of moving planets is also the one who recapped Warlock's life at the beginning of Starlin's run.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 19:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by shaxper on Aug 18, 2016 19:37:12 GMT -5
Wow. The one time Adam Warlock didn't come back from the dead.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 19:40:04 GMT -5
Yeah, his Essence was in the Soul a gem but I find it amazing that they show his corpse in full uniform - hair combed and all.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 18, 2016 20:06:30 GMT -5
Yeah, his Essence was in the Soul a gem but I find it amazing that they show his corpse in full uniform - hair combed and all. Thanos : Warlock is something of a dandy! |
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Post by foxley on Aug 18, 2016 20:19:18 GMT -5
Infinity Gauntlet #1-3On the one hand, this is ballsy: a major superhero event where the superheroes are useless...how provocative. On the other, it kills the pacing of the story. We have no hope anyone's actually going to succeed in stopping Thanos, so there is no tension building. Heck, once half the universe's population died, and California and Japan fell into the ocean, it became obvious things were somehow going to get reset in the end; Marvel wasn't going to leave half their characters removed from existence and major portions of the world gone. So there's absolutely no tension to be found anywhere in this story. We know Thanos will lose, we know nothing the heroes are doing is going to lead to that occurring, and we know any sacrifices made in an effort to bring about that ending will be undone. It's a great idea, but it's not working as a story. Wow! It's almost as if having an unbeatable protagonist removes all dramatic tension from a story! Who could have foreseen that?  I guess Starlin is lucky there are a lot of comic fans who enjoy reading endless issues of Thanos angsting about how awful it is to be the smartest, most powerful being in the universe. |
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Aug 18, 2016 21:07:12 GMT -5
To be fair the spectacle of Thanos essentially becoming a being of this scale with the gauntlet is fantastic. At least I think so. The heroes don't stand a chance, but it's clear after a while that this is the Thanos and Warlock show, so I don't really care that everyone else is just there to get slaughtered. However, I think Starlin really has s lot of pressure to come up with a payoff that seems plausible given the events already set in motion. As arrogant as Thanos is, he's also supposed to be highly intelligent. So why would he depower himself just to toy with the heroes? Again, it's been a while since I read it, but this was the kind of thing at the time that was hard for me to buy. That Thanos would be this dumb. Also how he didn't know of Warnock's plan completely and that Mephisto was simply bidding his time. Bro he's standing right next to you how do you not know his true intentions with the power of the gauntlet? I guess the only outlier here is that Thanos is so obsessed with his grand vision that he doesn't notice the crumbs.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 18, 2016 21:12:48 GMT -5
I suspect part of the pacing problem has to do with Marvel editorial. Starlin put all the best stuff into Thanos Quest and then, suddenly he's supposed to fill a highly promoted six issue event with a being who'd already achieved godhood. Based upon absolutely no evidence whatsoever, I get the feeling Starlin wasn't planning to write Infinity Gauntlet when he began Thanos Quest.
Then again, he could just suck at pacing.
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