shaxper
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Post by shaxper on Aug 17, 2016 22:13:38 GMT -5
I'm making my way through volume 2 of the collected Love & Rockets, and it seems clear to me at this point that each brother is heading in a very different direction. In last year's Classic Comics Christmas, many of you voiced approbation for either Gilbert or Jaime (Mario didn't get much love), so I'm curious to hear your thoughts as to which brother you prefer and why. Personally, I'm leaning towards Jaime right now. While I respect Gilbert's attempt to capture an entire community and all who reside in it, I appreciate Jaime's tighter focus on four characters, allowing him to better lend life to each of them. I truly understand and love Maggie, Hopey, Penny, and Izzy, whereas I'm still grasping to understand all who reside in Gilbert's world. Then again, I'm only two volumes in. I have a lot more to experience.. |
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Post by berkley on Aug 17, 2016 22:32:32 GMT -5
I really couldn't choose at this point. They're both so good that my personal preference has never been marked for one above the other. It was Gilbert's Palomar stories that first hooked me, but once I became a regular reader Jaime's stuff very quickly became just as important to me. I do think Gilbert's fallen off just a shade the last few years, focusing a little too much for my taste on his current go-to character, Fritz. But looking over both bodies of work in their entireties I don't find myself able to rank one over the other.
Mario never produced enough work to bear comparison to the Gilbert or Jaime, IMO. And I don't think he devoted himself to comics enough to become as good an artist as either of his more well-known (in comics circles) brothers. My impression is that he was doing other things, making a living, etc, and would occasionally do some comics on the side.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 18, 2016 7:07:08 GMT -5
Beto, fo sho. Though I actually like Jaime's art a bit better. I believe Heartbreak Soup is as close as comics have ever come to being great literature.
Cei-U!
My heart belongs to Palomar!
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Post by brutalis on Aug 18, 2016 7:11:13 GMT -5
Beto. His art while technically not as clean as Jamie's it feels to have much more heart and soul to it. The art and story combine to make a greater whole and Palomar is very real storytelling by a master.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 7:54:19 GMT -5
I still can't tell them apart.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 7:58:12 GMT -5
Okay, maybe this guy.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2016 8:06:09 GMT -5
Yeah, this guy.  |
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Post by MDG on Aug 18, 2016 8:45:08 GMT -5
Beto is certainly a great writer and excellent cartoonist, but my love for Jaime's clean style gives him the edge. He's one of the best people ever simply in terms of laying the ink down on the paper.
(I also hate to say it, but I probably give him an edge because he's a little more predictable. Beto is all over at times and you're never sure where things will end up. Recently read Speak of the Devil and it freaked me out.)
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Post by mikelmidnight on Aug 18, 2016 11:37:22 GMT -5
In the 80's I would have preferred Beto by a hair, but as Fritz and her family became incorporated into the main series I feel like it's lost its heart ... even the current revisits to Palomar have not seemed dialed in to me. So currently I have to say Jamie. However, I do think their work is better together then when they work separately. I voted for Mario just 'cause he's the dark horse candidate and I was figured nobody else would.  |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 18, 2016 12:08:51 GMT -5
I've tried a dozen times to read Love and Rockets. It just doesn't work for me. Or I haven't found any of it that works for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 12:34:58 GMT -5
I can recongnise the skill in Beto's work, but I don't particularly enjoy it, whereas I love everything I've read of the whole Locas/Hoppers stuff that Jaime has produced
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Post by String on Aug 18, 2016 12:37:40 GMT -5
Jaime by far, although that's not to say I don't appreciate Beto's work. It's just sometimes I feel as if I'm missing the subtle underlying themes within his work and characterization. Regardless, I find all of Beto's work engaging, disturbing, and thought-provoking.
But Jaime has one of the cleanest styles in the industry, NO ONE draws women as good as he does (and I mean that in a realistic sense) and his continuing tight focus on the Locas gang, especially given how they've aged and changed over the ensuing years, allows him an artistic freedom to continue exploring their characterization and drama in a way that few other artists have in this medium.
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