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Post by MWGallaher on Oct 14, 2016 7:28:33 GMT -5
I paid about $38 dollars for a copy of this: I already had a copy of this issue, bought off the stands. So why did I buy this? It's one of my favorite series, drawn by my favorite artist, but the real draw was the condition. Unslabbed but near mint. Virtually all of the comics from my early days of collecting are well-worn, and for some reason, I decided I wanted at least one sample in high condition. And it was a revelation! To see a comic from the early 70's looking the way it did when I originally bought it, vibrant and unfaded, was a terrific experience. But one is enough. I'm not trying to be snarky but, What in the world makes this book a 38 dollar comic? Is it a key issue of some sort ? I'm not particularly conversant with market values these days, but from what I see online, that's not an outrageous price point for a high grade copy. milehighcomics.com is charging $71 for a Very Fine copy of this one. But no, it's not a "key issue"--I don't know if there is anything that could be called a "key issue" of this series. Heck, even the first issue was mostly a reprint of mundane 50's comics!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 14, 2016 8:05:11 GMT -5
So, looking through this thread makes me wonder.. who are the people that drop hundreds all the time on movie keys (like Iron Man 55) and 'super exclusive' variants? are they all stores or people like our former Ms. Jezebel trying to flip stuff they don't really want for stuff they do?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 10:12:22 GMT -5
Phantom Stranger 23 marked the start of the Frankenstein back up by Kaluta and was the first appearance of "DC's" Frankenstein character (though somewhat different than the character as revived by Morrison in 7 Soldiers and later appearing in the new52, but it is a Bronze Age first appearance for all of that). which might give it a bump in value form the issues around it.
-M
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Post by MatthewP on Oct 14, 2016 13:28:47 GMT -5
So, looking through this thread makes me wonder.. who are the people that drop hundreds all the time on movie keys (like Iron Man 55) and 'super exclusive' variants? are they all stores or people like our former Ms. Jezebel trying to flip stuff they don't really want for stuff they do? There are plenty of people out there buying the big dollar books, but not many in this forum. The culture here is just focused on loving comics more than collecting, so not a lot of big spenders. Some, like me, may be reluctant to talk about big dollar buys with all the "small spenders" here. I've spent big (when I still had a paycheck coming in), although not on variants. I still don't "get" those - literally or figuratively. I'll decline to say how much I paid for my biggest book, but I'll show it. Those with a price guide can get a ballpark idea of the cost.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 15:00:26 GMT -5
Big ticket books move fast and there is a core customer base for them. One shop near here that has been in business since the early 70s has a waiting list of customers waiting for certain high ticket books and when he gets one in he calls and it is usually sold before it ever hits his display shelves. I was actually surprised to see a 9.0 Hulk 181 last time I was in there (it has a $3-$K price tag on it) because he usually moves books like that quickly, and he basically said he has gotten and moved a half dozen in similar grade the last 6-8 months so had exhausted his wait list on it and was putting it out because of that. He had been getting complaints there weren't enough books like that in store for customers to get on impulse type purchases. So there is definitely a market for it, just not many of us here (though I suspect you would find more of that kind of buyer over on the CCG forums than here).
I also see a fair number of books like that move every time I go to a show. I don't remember if the Captain was with me at the time, but we were both at Buckeye Con in April up in Columbus and I saw one dealer move a high grade Iron Man 1, Avengers 57 and Strange Tales 110 and a handful of other books to the same buyer, and the transaction ran to 5 figures. An he said it was only the second biggest sale he had that day. And several other dealers there had similar sales that day. There were 2 distinct types of buyers there that day, people bargain hunting looking to fill in runs, and people looking to pick up high grade keys at the going rate.
There is a certain comic zeitgeist that permeates this site, but it is not reflective of the larger market as a whole, so I would make any assumptions on how well big ticket high grade books sell based on posts here. I'm a frugal buyer with very few things I am willing to spend on when I "collect" but there are some things where I will shell out money to get them (but for me high grade comics don't rank very high on that list). But I don't begrudge those that do either.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 15:04:15 GMT -5
PS that is a very lovely grail book there MatthewPDon't see many of those out there. -M
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 14, 2016 15:43:14 GMT -5
Compared to some here, I feel like a bigger spender. But I too wonder who purchases variants and spends a pretty penny doing so. I sold several recently...one was really nothing special and for me, it was worth having an extra $40 in pocket than to own this particular issue. I do like to keep up on the market because for where I live, ebay is the only way I can buy. It is hard to get deals but when I see something I know I can upsell, I bid. If I can buy something I want as well at a reasonable price, I will.
For spending sake, I kept track since December of last year of all of my purchases and sales...in a couple months (for those interested) I can post the number of books I bought, a snippet of what I bought, and a total cost for the year. I did this because having just gotten married and bought a house this summer, I want to be mindful of my spending. I set aside an amount for the year and I want to see how well I fit within that amount.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 17:52:34 GMT -5
But I too wonder who purchases variants and spends a pretty penny doing so. Guilty. The most recent ones I acquired were the SDCC Rebirth Variants.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 14, 2016 18:20:32 GMT -5
There was a point in my life, from about 1977-1981, where I was making tons of money, had no debts, unmarried and low living expenses. I had money to burn and some of it went to comic collecting. I attended conventions regularly buying back issues and was known among certain regular dealers there, especially Sparkle City. I'm not sure what was the most expensive comic I ever bought, and remember, prices back then were much cheaper than now. One particular convention, Sparkle City offered me a choice between 2 comics, each for $800 in excellent condition I had 24 hours to decide which one to buy. Either one was hard to find and seldom for sale in the shape I was presented. I wound up getting the Superboy even if the Archie was about 8 years older
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 18:48:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 14, 2016 19:02:19 GMT -5
Yow. So Archie #1 is ranked at #12 of the 100 most valuable comics with a 9.4 grade going for $623,000. And Superboy #1 is not even on the list. My decision to go for the Superboy was definitely influenced by the fact I was already collecting old DC comics and had a run of Superboy from about #75 and up. And at the time of the early 80s, interest in Archie comics was extremely low It's all water under the bridge now, because I sold the Superboy at some point in the late 1990s and made a nice profit, then sold my complete collection about 3 or 4 years ago i certainly made a monumentally wrong decision, looking back from this perspective, and let that be a warning for anyone who asks me for comic book investment advise
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 19:51:40 GMT -5
i certainly made a monumentally wrong decision, looking back from this perspective, and let that be a warning for anyone who asks me for comic book investment advise Aww, you just didn't know at the time! It happens to some of the 'best' too. Chuck at Mile High made some interesting decisions with his Edgar Church books back in 1983. Here's an extract in which he explains what he had to do to finance Mile High back in those days when it's future wasn't as brightly lit.
Here's the Source: www.milehighcomics.com/tales/cbg168.html at Mile High Chuck must be bawling like 40 Tarzans cuz he found those books in a closet and let them go for the equivalent of peanuts.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 14, 2016 20:03:26 GMT -5
The only books I paid some money for was my Avengers collection. All in mid to low grade of course, but I had to have them. I'm figuring from 10-60 a book. I'm only missing #1 and #4.
Unless come into some serious money to spare, I might have that gap til I die.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 14, 2016 20:09:19 GMT -5
Another key book I purchased from Sparkle City back then was an Amazing Fantasy #15. Don't know what I paid for it. Apparently it looked VF-NM to my untrained eyes in 1980. Later I became friends with a guy who ran a shop and also did comic restoration work. (That's the guy I once wrote about with the copy of Action Comics # 1 which he lost for 36 hours, then sold for a cool million). I showed him the Amazing Fantasy years later and he pointed out the restoration work that was done to it. He told me Sparkle City back then did it to just about all the key books they handled back then. I would never had known without my friend showing me exactly what to look for
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 15, 2016 10:59:39 GMT -5
I paid $100 for Exciting Comics #9 (1940), the first appearance of The Black Terror. I loved the look of the character and got ahold of a few of the 1940s issues. In the end, this story and the others I got were rather generic. The good stuff came from Jerry Robinson and Mort Meskin and I got those from Americomics Golden Age Greats and Men of Mystery, for lest than 10 bucks each, along with other great stories. I vowed never again to pay that much for a comic and stuck to it. $30 was about as high as I would go, after that, and that was for things like Strange Tales Nick Fury (first appearance).
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