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Post by hondobrode on Sept 16, 2016 17:15:12 GMT -5
Ok, this sounds pretty fun. I won't buy it immediately, but I'll definitely buy it on sale later. CBR.com : MARVEL DEBUTS MONSTERS UNLEASHED IMAGE, EVENT INFO Marvel Debuts Monsters Unleashed Image, Event Info When Marvel revealed its mysterious “MU” teasers were for something titled “Monsters Unleashed,” the publisher remained silent on what exactly the project would entail. Teasers revealed that Cullen Bunn would be joined by artists Steve McNiven, Leinil Yu, Adam Kubert, Greg Land and Salvador Larocca for a new tale. Well, in addition to debuting a new promo image for the project by McNiven, Marvel has now offered up some concrete details for the monstrous new series. “Monsters Unleashed” is Marvel’s next big crossover event. According to Entertainment Weekly, every Marvel monster imaginable will launch an attack on our heroes with a grand “Pacific Rim”-style assault on the Marvel Universe. Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso tells EW, “If there ever were a monster who stood 10 stories high or taller and created mayhem in the Marvel Universe over last several decades, they’re gonna be in the story.” The promotional image from McNiven gives a first look at some of the monsters and heroes who will be mixing it up in the crossover. Monsters that normally fight on the side of good, like Groot and Devil Dinosaur, will be prominently involved in the event as adversaries. We even see Groot locked in battle against his Guardians of the Galaxy teammate, Rocket Raccoon. Bunn says, “It’s an all hands on deck situation. Imagine something like the Hulk, only much bigger. With the destructive force those creatures have, the heroes will have to mobilize much more quickly. The heroes find themselves very quickly in a situation where they have no downtime, they have no chance to take a breath. They’re moving constantly against what are essentially cataclysmic threats over and over again.” To keep “Monsters Unleashed” new-reader friendly, tie-in issues will be kept to a minimum, and every issue will feature a different artist to speed up the publishing schedule. Each issue will consist of 30 pages, and feature plenty of splash pages to showcase the “Pacific Rim”-style monster mayhem. “Monsters Unleashed” will be a five-issue series, shipping bi-weekly in January.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Sept 16, 2016 20:11:50 GMT -5
I'd rather just have the monsters in their own book but an event sounds okay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 22:45:09 GMT -5
5 issues, probably $4.99 each.
Marvel has priced me out of caring about any of their events.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 18, 2016 1:49:27 GMT -5
5 issues, probably $4.99 each. Marvel has priced me out of caring about any of their events. And since they promise plenty of big splash pages, it'll take less than 10 minutes to read. But that's OK. Sounds like a brainless concept to begin with
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 2:16:39 GMT -5
If I am going to spend more than $5 a pop per issue, I'd rather spend it on books from his series... that said I like Bunn's stuff outside the big 2 (which I think is head and shoulders above his Marvel & DC work for hire stuff) and I might check this out when it hits Unlimited. -M
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 13:54:51 GMT -5
I was hoping for more Universal, less Kaiju.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Sept 18, 2016 17:41:58 GMT -5
I was hoping for more Universal, less Kaiju. Yeah, same here; my favorite Marvel monsters are Werewolf by Night, Dracula, Man-Thing and the Frankenstein Monster.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 19, 2016 8:09:36 GMT -5
No offence intended to anyone, but the amount of negativity in fandom to pretty much every new project announced before it even goes on sale sometimes really depresses me. Am I te only one who, for the most part, actually still enjoys most modern comics I read?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 14:35:15 GMT -5
No offence intended to anyone, but the amount of negativity in fandom to pretty much every new project announced before it even goes on sale sometimes really depresses me. Am I te only one who, for the most part, actually still enjoys most modern comics I read? I still enjoy most of the modern comics I read. I just had to stop reading most Marvel and DC books for that to be the case. There are good comics out there, there always has been, but for me most of the good stuff is by publishers other than Marvel and DC currently. But that's for me, If people enjoy other stuff, good on them, read what you like, don't buy what you dislike, and if everyone did that, the bad books would die of attrition, but people don't buy and read what they like for the most part, they buy by label or habit or brand loyalty and that is my main issue with modern comics from the big 2-it's about the brand not the story. I don't buy anything else by brand (even though that is the way the consumer market is mostly established these days) I am not going to buy my comic books by brand either. But if people choose to do so, good on them. However, the negativity you cite is very probably a sign of customer dissatisfaction overall with the type of product being put out in the industry. The fact that the demand for Marvel and DC heroes overall has never been higher but the product that is their natural habitat (comic books) is still a niche market that is shrinking not growing in this era of unprecedented demand while books from other publishers that are not brand driven are finding growth in the market says something very important about the current state of comic books by the big 2 (as is the fact that super-hero sales in every other medium is growing at a fantastic rate from children's books to merchandising, but not actual comic books themselves). They are not satisfying those who read them and they are not drawing mew people to read them. Spin that any way you want, put your own personal preferences opposite that if you wish, but there is an underlying truth revealed in that combination that does not speak well for what modern comic books are accomplishing. There's a problem at the core of it, but until those in positions of the powers that be in comics acknowledge the problems they cannot address them to make positive changes. Doing the "keep on keeping on" thing and doing more of the same things that stopped working a long time ago isn't accomplishing anything except entrenching the problems deeper in the industry's core. It's shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. So no offense intended to anyone, but Pollyanna attitudes that everything is still great while it really is not is doing no one any good, and in the long run will do more harm than good for the industry in the 21st century. And seeing it continuously causes me to lose hope for the future of the industry more and more. -M
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 19, 2016 16:19:05 GMT -5
No offence intended to anyone, but the amount of negativity in fandom to pretty much every new project announced before it even goes on sale sometimes really depresses me. Am I te only one who, for the most part, actually still enjoys most modern comics I read? I still enjoy most of the modern comics I read. I just had to stop reading most Marvel and DC books for that to be the case. There are good comics out there, there always has been, but for me most of the good stuff is by publishers other than Marvel and DC currently. But that's for me, If people enjoy other stuff, good on them, read what you like, don't buy what you dislike, and if everyone did that, the bad books would die of attrition, but people don't buy and read what they like for the most part, they buy by label or habit or brand loyalty and that is my main issue with modern comics from the big 2-it's about the brand not the story. I don't buy anything else by brand (even though that is the way the consumer market is mostly established these days) I am not going to buy my comic books by brand either. But if people choose to do so, good on them. However, the negativity you cite is very probably a sign of customer dissatisfaction overall with the type of product being put out in the industry. The fact that the demand for Marvel and DC heroes overall has never been higher but the product that is their natural habitat (comic books) is still a niche market that is shrinking not growing in this era of unprecedented demand while books from other publishers that are not brand driven are finding growth in the market says something very important about the current state of comic books by the big 2 (as is the fact that super-hero sales in every other medium is growing at a fantastic rate from children's books to merchandising, but not actual comic books themselves). They are not satisfying those who read them and they are not drawing mew people to read them. Spin that any way you want, put your own personal preferences opposite that if you wish, but there is an underlying truth revealed in that combination that does not speak well for what modern comic books are accomplishing. There's a problem at the core of it, but until those in positions of the powers that be in comics acknowledge the problems they cannot address them to make positive changes. Doing the "keep on keeping on" thing and doing more of the same things that stopped working a long time ago isn't accomplishing anything except entrenching the problems deeper in the industry's core. It's shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. So no offense intended to anyone, but Pollyanna attitudes that everything is still great while it really is not is doing no one any good, and in the long run will do more harm than good for the industry in the 21st century. And seeing it continuously causes me to lose hope for the future of the industry more and more. -M I actually do find that rather offensive. I do not consider myelf to have a "Pollyana attitude". I do, however, still buy several dozen Marvel and DC books every month (I've just started buying DC again since Rebirth) because I happen to enjoy them. Who are you to say I'm wrong?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 19, 2016 17:02:28 GMT -5
To each their own poison
When it comes to Marvel and DC superheroes, especially the corporate driven over priced event trash, I'll gladly pass. And if that's offensive to you, well, buy extra copies of the books to make up for it
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Post by thwhtguardian on Sept 19, 2016 17:25:24 GMT -5
I don't know about, "everything is great!" there are plenty of books that I think are utter garbage but I honestly don't think the ratio of garbage to great is really any different than it ever was in the past. Just pick any excellent comic from any year in the past and I guarantee you that I can name at least four that were terrible. This isn't to say that giant, corporate driven mega events are great or good for business only that it's not logical to rate the modern output of DC or Marvel based mainly on their worst output.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 20, 2016 0:36:50 GMT -5
The industry is growing if you look outside of Diamond's narrow worldview.
Besides the monthlies, let's not forget that there are trade collections, hardcover collections, Masterworks, Essentials, Epic collections, Showcase volumes, digital comics, alternate distribution other than Diamond.
There are more and more publishers besides the Big 2, Dark Horse, Image and IDW, and the next tier of Valiant, Boom! Studios, Archie, Dynamite, Oni, Avatar, Zenescope, Action Lab, Aspen, and the next step down to 12 Gauge, 1First, A Wave Blue World, AAM-Markosia, Abrams Comicarts, Amulet Books, Abstract Studio, Aces Weekly, Aftershock, Akileos, Albatross, Alterna Comics, Alternative Comics, American Mythology, Andrews McMeel, Ankama, Antarctic Press, Ape Entertainment, Arcana, and Asylum Press...
That's just the A's
Some of them are pretty small, but, every one of these is publishing and making money.
I've heard my whole life how the industry is a gasp away from dying and I don't believe it. It's changing, yes, and sometimes not for the better, I agree, but there are some good things too.
Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I think in fact the market, the total market, including manga, and web comics, are growing and still healthy.
Let's not forget to factor in how the cost to purchase these comics has way outpaced inflation and cost.
Gone are the days under Jim Shooter's reign when a mediocre selling title like Dazzler, which was selling just under 100,000 copies / month. They also cost more that 50 cents.
There are many different publishing layers of revenue which shows that the publishers have diversified outside the traditional direct market / monthly issues core of the hobby.
Oh yeah, subscriptions, all-you-can-read services like Comixology Unlimited, Marvel Unlimited, Scribd, Comics Fix, Comic Blitz
and Amazon and the other online booksellers
and Barnes & Noble and Books A Million are still alive too
If you don't like what DC or Marvel is putting out, you're right; don't buy it. Do like Joe Quesada said years ago as Editor-in=Chief at Marvel.
"Don't complain, just don't buy it."
Look at all the diversity from all those non-DC/Marvel publishers.
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