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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 6, 2016 16:56:10 GMT -5
Good topic that I have never seen discussed before. I've never used tape of any kind on my bags. What does that piece of tape accomplish? I just accepted it from the beginning that tape will seal and protect the entire book. The cost of potential of losing the book to a tear isn't worth the risk of protecting it from a flood that might never happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 17:15:17 GMT -5
Good topic that I have never seen discussed before. I've never used tape of any kind on my bags. What does that piece of tape accomplish? It keeps the back flap down and firmly in place. Useful when shipping or the book can slip out of the bag and get a ding. Alternatively it can be left alone but while flipping through a long box, the flap can stick up and make handling a bit more difficult. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 6, 2016 17:17:21 GMT -5
Good topic that I have never seen discussed before. I've never used tape of any kind on my bags. What does that piece of tape accomplish? Theoretically, it better protects your comic from the elements by sealing the bag. Personally, I just can't stand having that top flap of the bag flapping around chaotically. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Nov 6, 2016 17:27:05 GMT -5
Self sealing bags = WORST IDEA EVER!
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Nov 6, 2016 17:37:52 GMT -5
Good topic that I have never seen discussed before. I've never used tape of any kind on my bags. What does that piece of tape accomplish? I just accepted it from the beginning that tape will see and protect the entire book. The cost of potential of losing the book to a tear isn't worth the risk of protecting it from a flood that might never happen. IMO, putting one or two pieces of tape on the flap will not seal out moisture. I can understand that it would keep the flap down and make everything nice and neat, but one little piece of tape won't keep water out. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 6, 2016 17:53:11 GMT -5
I just accepted it from the beginning that tape will see and protect the entire book. The cost of potential of losing the book to a tear isn't worth the risk of protecting it from a flood that might never happen. IMO, putting one or two pieces of tape on the flap will not seal out moisture. I can understand that it would keep the flap down and make everything nice and neat, but one little piece of tape won't keep water out. If your bag has the right length on the top flap, then using tape to snugly hold the flap over the top should create a sealed pocket that could even withstand moderate amounts of moisture. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 6, 2016 18:58:34 GMT -5
Having a comic bagged prevents tears, bending the cover at the edges and other things that will ruin the shape of the paper. The bags will not protect a submerged book. But whenever I have a book just loose, I find it gets dog eared after a while.
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Post by shaxper on Nov 7, 2016 9:31:58 GMT -5
The bags will not protect a submerged book. With the proper fit, they could. I regularly have to press the air out of my bags before sealing them, because otherwise they hold all the air in and balloon. That's either air-tight or not far from it. |
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Post by Randle-El on Nov 7, 2016 16:30:11 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one had tried to produce a zip-loc styled comic book bag. It would seal the book pretty well without having to worry about any kind of adhesive. The only snag is where you would put the opening. I'm thinking a sideways opening bag would be the best bet.
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Post by Confessor on Nov 7, 2016 18:18:39 GMT -5
 I'm never using tape on my bags again!  Condolences. Thinking of you at this difficult time.  |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 7, 2016 18:23:47 GMT -5
Ugh, tape. I ruined a Sub-Mariner #5, a Strange Tales #178, and a Tales to Astonish #90 in the same fashion as the OP and chose to buy them all again. This was 1992, so not a huge outlay, but irritating nonetheless. That was when I switched to the 2 mil Mylar sleeves. With a board, they provide a very snug fit, and the fact that they remain "open" at the top is no real concern. Anecdotal, but I stored a copy of Hangman Comics #5 in Mylar in a dark basement in humid North Georgia for seven years, and it still graded at 9.2.
Mylar sleeves are a bit more expensive than traditional bags, but getting rid of the tape was totally worth it to me.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 7, 2016 18:29:07 GMT -5
I use the Scotch brand Magic tape (the slightly frosty looking tape) to seal my bags. It's less adhesive than the transparent tape. I also only use a single small square-sized strip -- just enough to keep the bag sealed, but not enough surface to accidentally get stuck to the cover. Occasionally, it will get stuck but if you peel slowly and carefully, you can get it off without damaging the book. I'm also neurotic enough that when I buy a book that is already bagged and boarded and it has two strips of tape, or some other taping that is not to my liking, I remove it and replace it with my own. My long lost twin brother! I've finally found you! :-) Looks like we have some triplets here. I've been using that style of tape for my bags for close to 25 years, and not once has it ever damaged any of them that it accidentally got stuck to. As Randle-El so accurately points out, it doesn't have a strong adhesion like the normal Scotch tape does, so it will peel right off of a book, although you have to be REEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLY careful with Silver and Bronze Age books, just due to the type of paper they used for the covers. As for removing the double tape from a purchased book and replacing it with a single piece, I'm one of those folks as well. I also usually replace the bag and board, if only because I don't know what type of materials they used, how it was stored, etc., and I figure I can retard whatever damage they've caused by storing it with the type of materials I like. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 22:21:40 GMT -5
I'm never using tape on my bags again! I feel your pain, as does that Ross Andru cover.  |
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Post by Confessor on Nov 8, 2016 6:06:34 GMT -5
My long lost twin brother! I've finally found you! :-) Looks like we have some triplets here. I've been using that style of tape for my bags for close to 25 years, and not once has it ever damaged any of them that it accidentally got stuck to. As Randle-El so accurately points out, it doesn't have a strong adhesion like the normal Scotch tape does, so it will peel right off of a book, although you have to be REEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLY careful with Silver and Bronze Age books, just due to the type of paper they used for the covers. As for removing the double tape from a purchased book and replacing it with a single piece, I'm one of those folks as well. I also usually replace the bag and board, if only because I don't know what type of materials they used, how it was stored, etc., and I figure I can retard whatever damage they've caused by storing it with the type of materials I like. Make that quadruplets. Magic tape is the way forward. As others have said, even if the worst happens and the tape becomes attached to the book accidentally, magic tape is so much less adhesive than regular tape that you can gently peel it off without hurting the book. I've used magic tape for the last 15 years or so. |
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Post by Outrajs on Aug 7, 2017 12:32:51 GMT -5
I'm never using tape on my bags again! I just bought a stack of about 50 books and they are all taped and of course on the first book out...tape tear. I feel your pain. |
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