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Post by urrutiap on Nov 16, 2016 14:38:39 GMT -5
Any fans of the original New Warriors comic book from way way back?
Im still kind of a casual fan of the old New Warriors. I still have issues 10 and 38.
Heck as I was digging through an old cardboard box of my main good comics from X Men and Wolverine and Amazing Spider Man etc, I found some other old stuff such as Namor when he had long hair, beard and looked too sexy in his speedos. A time when Namor was going through a phase I guess lol.
New Warriors I like because back then they were a small hero team where they'd take on bad guys where the Avengers would do anything about or whatever
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Post by brutalis on Nov 16, 2016 15:13:06 GMT -5
I have the entire original 75 issue run and enjoyed it immensely. Later versions not so much love for. Wonderful Bagley art which showed the team as a true young/teen group of people. Was thankful for the return of (Kid) Nova and his dating Namorita. The Marvel Boy and Firestar connection to the greater Marvel universe felt natural and not forced and Speedball was fun in his comedic relief and the growth of his powers/control. Night Thrasher was ok and nothing special for me.
The stories were fun and delved deeply into the existing Marvel characters to be found as well as creating new ones making a grand mix of old and new for the team to confront. It was nice seeing the smaller forces of villainy being explored and the series to me had that original Avengers feeling and mixture of cosmic (Terrax, the Sphinx, time travel stories, Dire Wraiths, etc) versus more mundane (Puppet Master, Punisher, Marvel Boy's trial, etc) which helped make the team something special.
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Post by urrutiap on Nov 16, 2016 15:19:16 GMT -5
With the older issues of New Warriors. Issue 38 i assume was involved with some story arc where Rage was dying from something.
I still like Speedball but I still dont know a whole lot about Speedball. Speeball a mutant or he get his powers from a lab accident or whatever?
his powers work the same as Cannonball a little bit or different?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 15:53:47 GMT -5
I enjoyed the New Warriors, although I can't remember much about it save the romance between Firestar and Marvel Boy (and his trial). Seems like I remember Kid Nova and Namorita having a romance. Was there a member named Silhouette? I remember Nighthrasher and there was another team member that went on to be an Avenger (Firestar and Marvel Boy did as well--didn't he change his name to Justice?)
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Post by urrutiap on Nov 16, 2016 17:01:33 GMT -5
Yeah nightthrasher was also known as Rage. I prefer his old name Nightthrasher
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Post by mikelmidnight on Nov 16, 2016 17:50:33 GMT -5
By the time the comic came out I wasn't much invested in mainstream superheroes, although I did buy the first issue out of curiosity. I thought Nightthrasher was an unfortunately predictable 'token angry young black man,' although I was pleasntly impressed that they managed to cobble together a team of pretty much all the unaffiliated non-mutant teen heroes of the time and they seemed to fit together pretty well.
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Post by tingramretro on Nov 17, 2016 4:41:00 GMT -5
Yeah nightthrasher was also known as Rage. I prefer his old name Nightthrasher Night Thrasher (Dwayne Taylor) and Rage (Elvin Haliday) are two completely different characters. Rage was created in The Avengers in 1990, and later joined the Warriors.
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Post by tingramretro on Nov 17, 2016 4:42:40 GMT -5
I bought the book for about the first 50 issues and enjoyed it, but mostly because I was a Nova fan. Never much cared about most of the others, except Vance and Angelica.
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Post by tingramretro on Nov 17, 2016 4:45:31 GMT -5
With the older issues of New Warriors. Issue 38 i assume was involved with some story arc where Rage was dying from something. I still like Speedball but I still dont know a whole lot about Speedball. Speeball a mutant or he get his powers from a lab accident or whatever? his powers work the same as Cannonball a little bit or different? A lab accident irradiated both Robbie Baldwin and his cat, Neils, and gave them both the same powers, which revolve around kinetic energy-nothing like Cannonball.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 17, 2016 6:55:35 GMT -5
I have most of the first 50 issues and I re-read it a few years back and it didn't hold up. I found that I kind of hated Bagley's art.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Nov 17, 2016 15:27:25 GMT -5
I have most of the first 50 issues and I re-read it a few years back and it didn't hold up. I found that I kind of hated Bagley's art. I was the same a while back, its not as bad as the "bad" 90s books but still very average. However I have always loved this cover (despite loathing the big gun characters of the time). Cant read the All New X-Men title at the moment because of Bags art...not my thang at all anymore.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 17, 2016 16:57:38 GMT -5
I've collected all the Bagley issues back in the 90's. Since then I've been finding the rest in $1 bins here at a local chain of stores and have been buying them when I see them. Overall I liked the early issues, but the latter issues seem to be lacking. One of the latest ones I read that I purchased months ago was a disappointment. Of the 12 or so issues, I have after #27 or 28 (Bagley's last issue) I think they made Nightthrasher even more of the token "angry black guy", as mikelmidnight mentioned, and by the few #50 issues and the Nighttrasher mini, they really made him a caricature. Almost as bad as reading Simonson's Steel, even though I usually like her writing. But these two are good examples of someone writing a character they are unfamiliar with badly. Which is weird since Fabian did well in the early part of the series. And both Bagley and Robertson were good artists. But after that the writing and art gone bad. (Except that one issue where they all fight a Namor that didn't take them seriously. I mean the art was still bad, but it was a hilariously funny issue.)
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Nov 17, 2016 23:19:43 GMT -5
I love New Warriors, and own a a full run of the first series. It was one of the only 90's comics that, to me, had that 80's comic vibe. It was just a fun comic that you could kick back with a coke and chips and chill out to. And I was a fan of how the artists usually jammed the entire Warriors team into the panels: They followed that pattern with the New Warriors in the Captain America drug comic too: Would love to see Crack and Weed make a comeback.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 18, 2016 7:33:20 GMT -5
I never got into New Warriors, despite buying a ton of Marvel content at the time it was being published. Outside of Nova, I really didn't take to any of the characters.
I think I own four issues of the original series. I know I have the 1st issue, which I bought for $1 somewhere, #10 because it had White Queen on the cover, and the first two annuals because they were parts of bigger stories. Other than those, I have never had any interest in picking up more of this series.
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 19, 2016 17:34:11 GMT -5
I love the first 50 or so issues. Basically for the soap opera of it all. And the early Bagley work.
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