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Post by The Captain on Mar 23, 2020 11:35:13 GMT -5
Would asking for a little responsible leadership on the federal level be seen as politically triggering? It shouldn't. What we need right now are mature, sober-minded individuals from everywhere on the political spectrum coming together to solve the problems that are facing the country (no slight meant here to our foreign members, but this is a US-focused comment) they were elected to serve. That means no misinformation. No shady stock transactions while assuring the public it would all be OK. No posturing or pandering or politicizing. No games or "gotchas" or gambling with the lives and livelihoods of the American people This virus doesn't care if you're white or black or Asian or Hispanic. It's not checking people's religion or voter registration or zip code. Not diving into your bank account balance or 401(k) portfolio. Senator, doctor, grocery store worker, mail carrier; no one is immune. It is going to indiscriminately f@$% up everything in its path, because that's what viruses like this do. My church prays for OUR leaders every week. Not the Republican leaders, not the Democrat leaders, not the ones who vote the way that most benefits or agrees with the church. ALL of our leaders. I think it definitely warrants adding to my list.
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Post by brutalis on Mar 23, 2020 11:44:28 GMT -5
Thankfully here in Phoenix the count has been manageable. Something like 160+ cases reported by the weekend and only 3 deaths in the state. Arizona is acting pre-preemptively and responsibly for the most part (always gonna be advantage takers and idiots) in dealing with this healthcare emergency. Here at my Hospital, everything is under lock-down and it is like a low level prison. All of the entrances are locked with only 3 ways to get in: 1. Emergency Department. 2. Main Entrance for Patients. 3. East Entrance for staff where ALL must answer questions and have temperature taken before being allowed in. Absolutely NO VISITORS with 2 exceptions: Pediatric may have 1 parent present, Women in Labor may have 1 person with them. In the case of a patient passing away, we have a visitation room set up. No elective/unwarranted surgeries other than those which are medically necessary and urgently required.
Life goes on and most staff are proceeding positively and responsibly with those few taking advantage and calling off or doing as "little" as possible when they are here. Many of us recognize that there is no way to be completely safe and protected. That as a "viral" infection, the Covid-19 has to run its course until a natural immunity develops among the populace. Staying home and only exposing yourself as necessary is the answer while staying healthy with plenty of sleep and fluids (water is best!) is the best defense. As many of us here in the hospital have been quoted as saying: this is not a statement of/or punishment upon mankind, but is simply nature running its course and that we need occasional reminders of how important it is to take care of yourself and others EVERY DAY.
Given time this too shall pass and things shall calm down and eventually regain some semblance of normality. One can only hope that the panic and fear should act as an eye-opener for governments and health officials. Let us be patient and tolerant of EVERYONE and see not what tomorrow delivers, but next week, next month and the rest of this year and next year. How we will all act and respond 6 months from now or even next year is just as vital and important as what we are doing today...
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 23, 2020 12:57:54 GMT -5
I'm at the part of a cold where you don't want to get chilled and the computer is in the cold basement, so not able to be online much until the worst of it goes. I have taxidriver's email and will try and write to him.
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Post by rberman on Mar 23, 2020 13:01:32 GMT -5
I have taxidriver's email and will try and write to him. Good. I would like to see him back. He always contributed well here.
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 23, 2020 14:08:24 GMT -5
I have taxidriver's email and will try and write to him. Good. I would like to see him back. He always contributed well here. Yeah he just up and left, same with MechaGodzilla. Shame
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Post by Confessor on Mar 23, 2020 16:05:33 GMT -5
So, Prime Minister Boris Johnson just addressed the nation to pretty much put us on an Italy-style lockdown. It's not quite the full lockdown that I was expecting: parks and open spaces haven't been shut for example (yet!). And the army haven't been mobilised. But it's not far off of a Italy-style lockdown.
There have been a lot of news stories this weekend about huge groups of people gathering in parks and at sea fronts etc, and not observing the social distancing guidelines (selfish f***ing idiots!). Anyway, yesterday Boris hinted that the government were concerned that people weren't taking it seriously enough and that stricter measures were being discussed. Then, this morning, news broke that the UK government's scientific committee SAGE was meeting, with ministers and officials considering how much the public's behaviour has changed and whether or not the government need to tighten the rules further.
So, yeah. There it is. Not really surprising. It was only a week ago in this very thread that I said that a lockdown was more or less a foregone conclusion.
Copied from the BBC website: From this evening people must stay at home except for shopping for basic necessities, daily exercise, any medical need and travelling to and from essential work.
Shops selling non-essential goods will also be shut and gatherings in public of more than two people who do not live together prohibited.
If people do not follow the rules police will have the powers to enforce them, including through fines and dispersing gatherings, Boris Johnson said in a televised statement from Downing Street.
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Post by rberman on Mar 23, 2020 16:12:28 GMT -5
It would be nice if people did the right thing without having to have their arm twisted. I guess this is why we can't have nice things, like self-determination.
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Post by Duragizer on Mar 23, 2020 18:55:17 GMT -5
I went to the hospital to visit my mother today and found they've suspended visiting hours; unless you're there to visit someone on their deathbed, they won't let you in.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 23, 2020 19:01:17 GMT -5
I watched today's U.S. federal coronavirus press briefing and it was a lot about lifting restrictions and not going any further with them (like on travel within the country, or lower 48 as they would say in Alaska). It's obvious the intent is to help the stock market by promising an end to some of the precautions by next week. Dr. Fauci was not present at this one.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 23, 2020 19:03:30 GMT -5
I went to the hospital to visit my mother today and found they've suspended visiting hours; unless you're there to visit someone on their deathbed, they won't let you in. Can you talk to her by phone at all? They showed someone doing that and seeing their loved-one at the window with some care home under quarantine in the news here the other day.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 23, 2020 19:07:03 GMT -5
I watched today's U.S. federal coronavirus press briefing and it was a lot about lifting restrictions and not going any further with them (like on travel within the country, or lower 48 as they would say in Alaska). It's obvious the intent is to help the stock market by promising an end to some of the precautions by next week. Dr. Fauci was not present at this one. The answer as to why this is happening is 100% political, but I will respectfully adhere to the moderators' admonition to not turn this thread into a new Politics thread.
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Post by Duragizer on Mar 23, 2020 19:57:36 GMT -5
I went to the hospital to visit my mother today and found they've suspended visiting hours; unless you're there to visit someone on their deathbed, they won't let you in. Can you talk to her by phone at all? They showed someone doing that and seeing their loved-one at the window with some care home under quarantine in the news here the other day. My sister and I have tried that numerous times in the last two hours. The persons on the phone couldn't find her in her room or washroom and couldn't get the nurse in charge of her on the phone. I'm getting worried and angry.
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Post by impulse on Mar 23, 2020 21:27:42 GMT -5
I watched today's U.S. federal coronavirus press briefing and it was a lot about lifting restrictions and not going any further with them (like on travel within the country, or lower 48 as they would say in Alaska). It's obvious the intent is to help the stock market by promising an end to some of the precautions by next week. Dr. Fauci was not present at this one. I think if they go through with that, they will be unpleasantly surprised when the market doesn't bounce back as people who are afraid continue to stay home and others willing to risk going back out prematurely ramp up infection rates. I hope the policymakers defer to the medical experts on this one, or I'm afraid it will be a lose-lose.
As to making the best of it, we got groceries delivered today. That was neat. It's a little more expensive, but as they are trying to minimize the number of people out and about, we wanted to do it, and it's also nice to help someone make up some income while I'm working remotely. They left it on the door, and we brought them in. No human contact, this comic nerd's dream come true j/k.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 7:41:34 GMT -5
The answer as to why this is happening is 100% political, but I will respectfully adhere to the moderators' admonition to not turn this thread into a new Politics thread. Hard to keep the political out of it - our UK government have arguably acted too slowly (we should have been at this level of lockdown at least a week ago, and there are still lots of non-essential jobs like construction continuing to work) but at least they're being guided by science, and they have acted; the US response at a federal level is just terrifyingly incompetent. When all this is over, if your citizens aren't rioting in the streets for change then they've really not been paying attention.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2020 7:45:33 GMT -5
The answer as to why this is happening is 100% political, but I will respectfully adhere to the moderators' admonition to not turn this thread into a new Politics thread. Hard to keep the political out of it - our UK government have arguably acted too slowly (we should have been at this level of lockdown at least a week ago, and there are still lots of non-essential jobs like construction continuing to work) but at least they're being guided by science, and they have acted; the US response at a federal level is just terrifyingly incompetent. When all this is over, if your citizens aren't rioting in the streets for change then they've really not been paying attention. To be fair to the various governments, this has never happened before. No one knew what to do and even to lock down your country is financial suicide. A step everyone is hesitant to make.
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