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Post by rberman on Mar 24, 2020 7:46:28 GMT -5
When all this is over, if your citizens aren't rioting in the streets for change then they've really not been paying attention. Riots will be a bout economic hardship, not failure to act sooner, because human brains are not wired to take math seriously. We can't see exponential curves, and it takes years of rigorous training to believe they exist. This is why STEM-background people generally took the viral threat seriously long before others did. It's also why people play the lottery, why they fail to save for retirement, etc. Statistics don't help cavemen, so our brains are not designed to easily act on statistics.
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Post by impulse on Mar 24, 2020 8:47:32 GMT -5
Riots will be a bout economic hardship, not failure to act sooner, because human brains are not wired to take math seriously. We can't see exponential curves, and it takes years of rigorous training to believe they exist. This is why STEM-background people generally took the viral threat seriously long before others did. It's also why people play the lottery, why they fail to save for retirement, etc. Statistics don't help cavemen, so our brains are not designed to easily act on statistics. Hey, speak for yourself. I play the lottery for that sweet, sweet hour of daydreaming what I would do if I won $200 Million. It's entertainment! Hard to beat $2 for an hour of entertainment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 11:19:59 GMT -5
]Riots will be a bout economic hardship, not failure to act sooner, because human brains are not wired to take math seriously. We can't see exponential curves, and it takes years of rigorous training to believe they exist. This is why STEM-background people generally took the viral threat seriously long before others did. It's also why people play the lottery, why they fail to save for retirement, etc. Statistics don't help cavemen, so our brains are not designed to easily act on statistics. You can argue about the timing, but the frightening lack of credence given to science, and the carelessness with which Trump throws misinformation around is appalling at the best of times, but it's criminally dangerous now
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 11:24:09 GMT -5
When all this is over, if your citizens aren't rioting in the streets for change then they've really not been paying attention. Riots will be a bout economic hardship, not failure to act sooner, because human brains are not wired to take math seriously. We can't see exponential curves, and it takes years of rigorous training to believe they exist. This is why STEM-background people generally took the viral threat seriously long before others did. It's also why people play the lottery, why they fail to save for retirement, etc. Statistics don't help cavemen, so our brains are not designed to easily act on statistics. Yeah, I meant about incompetence of government, the economic divide and the state of your healthcare system, exposed by their mismanagement and sheer stupidity in his crisis, but underlying problems beforehand. When people are potentially going to die in tens of thousands due to "it's just a flu" or "we have this drug, a great drug" or just because their healthcare cover isn't there, and see massively rich corporations getting bailouts while they're left to drown... if they're not rioting, I really don't understand why.
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 24, 2020 14:21:27 GMT -5
]Riots will be a bout economic hardship, not failure to act sooner, because human brains are not wired to take math seriously. We can't see exponential curves, and it takes years of rigorous training to believe they exist. This is why STEM-background people generally took the viral threat seriously long before others did. It's also why people play the lottery, why they fail to save for retirement, etc. Statistics don't help cavemen, so our brains are not designed to easily act on statistics. You can argue about the timing, but the frightening lack of credence given to science, and the carelessness with which Trump throws misinformation around is appalling at the best of times, but it's criminally dangerous now We live in a god-fearing country that puts the bible before anything and does not honor the separation of church and state. Scientific facts might as well be in chinese to most Christians
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 24, 2020 14:27:09 GMT -5
You can argue about the timing, but the frightening lack of credence given to science, and the carelessness with which Trump throws misinformation around is appalling at the best of times, but it's criminally dangerous now We live in a god-fearing country that puts the bible before anything and does not honor the separation of church and state. Scientific facts might as well be in chinese to most Christians It puts a certain interpretation of the Bible before anything. In reality the main worship is of Mammon.
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Post by impulse on Mar 24, 2020 14:34:27 GMT -5
This seems as good a time as any to make one final call for anyone who wants to have a more in-depth discussion on political matters while also respecting the desire of the board's mods and admins to minimize politics in the forums...
If anyone is interested in an unofficial Politics thread via group direct message, let me know and I will include you. If there's not enough interest, I'll drop it. Personally, there is so much going on just with the state of the world I'd love to get more into...
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Post by Pharozonk on Mar 24, 2020 16:36:55 GMT -5
To echo impulse, please refrain from detouring into political discussions in this thread. Discussions of safety precautions/concerns is one thing, but drawing political conclusions is strictly off limits here.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Mar 24, 2020 17:05:56 GMT -5
Well I’m out of work until May 1. State mandated closure of all non-essential businesses in counties where there are confirmed cases of the virus. Which it should honestly be state wide since people can and while cross county borders for what they want.
My supervisor said she has no fear that the company will continue to compensate the three of us at the branch I work out of for this immediate future. So that’s a big stress relief.
But since this past Sunday I was running a fever I have self isolated myself to the house until I can get, if I ever can, tested and know if I am for sure infected or not. I show no other symptoms other than a fever. And the highest it’s spiked in the last three days was 99.4 F
So overall I’m doing well. No one in the house is showing any symptoms so my wife continues to leave the house to get the necessities.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 24, 2020 17:30:13 GMT -5
I was feeling a bit better, not coughing or sneezing at all, and I had to get to the bank unfortunately. They had people wait outside to be admitted one at a time and a person to open doors. This might be of some help... use a pencil or even something you can throw away right after to push PIN numbers on the keypad! That's what I did, and then there was a hand sanitizer station on the way out with the door opener there (and washed with hot water for a half minute once home). Now barring checking on one thing I will not use my credit card and not have to make any payments, and more importantly not have to go out probably at all.
They are saying touchscreens in stores are a major risk for spreading the virus even with periodic wipe downs but the keypads with actual buttons you can use without touching directly.
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 24, 2020 17:38:00 GMT -5
Well I’m out of work until May 1. State mandated closure of all non-essential businesses in counties where there are confirmed cases of the virus. Which it should honestly be state wide since people can and while cross county borders for what they want. My supervisor said she has no fear that the company will continue to compensate the three of us at the branch I work out of for this immediate future. So that’s a big stress relief. But since this past Sunday I was running a fever I have self isolated myself to the house until I can get, if I ever can, tested and know if I am for sure infected or not. I show no other symptoms other than a fever. And the highest it’s spiked in the last three days was 99.4 F So overall I’m doing well. No one in the house is showing any symptoms so my wife continues to leave the house to get the necessities. Was kind of the opposite over here. We're closing two hours early every day and some have been told not to come to work unless we're called in the day prior. I haven't worked since last Wednesday and have had to apply for partial unemployment :/
I love my job, but I hate the fact that I've been left hanging like this.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 24, 2020 18:01:24 GMT -5
I think if they go through with that, they will be unpleasantly surprised when the market doesn't bounce back
I suppose 'the dow' closing up for today will be read by some as bouncing back, and a vindication...
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Post by impulse on Mar 24, 2020 19:40:03 GMT -5
I think if they go through with that, they will be unpleasantly surprised when the market doesn't bounce back
I suppose 'the dow' closing up for today will be read by some as bouncing back, and a vindication... To clarify, I understand there may be temporary ups and downs based on the news, but if the isolation measures are called off too soon and people go back to work and society en mass, I fear the virus will spread much more quickly than it has so far, and the impending panic will send the markets crashing back down worse than before. People are already scared enough. Imagine how much worse it will be if there is a false sense of security and then it suddenly gets even worse.
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Post by brutalis on Mar 25, 2020 8:46:02 GMT -5
I have to say this Virus has me sweating in a different way than as infected. Phoenix Fan Fusion scheduled for Memorial Day Weekend (5/22, 5/23, 5/24) hasn't chosen if they will be cancelled or not. They have noted on their internet site that since the Convention is 9 weeks away that that they are considering all options to make the best decision for all involved as to whether to continue as planned for the holiday weekend or for rescheduling to a later date. Don't be stupid and make the right choice.
Just reschedule already! Follow the lead of what is going on around the city and the world. Better safe than sorry I say and avoid being in trouble. The 9 weeks is just on the inner edge for the projected 12+ week isolation/recovery process and too close for the risk. And how can you have a FAN Convention if the Stars and Vendors which are the main draw can't travel across the country while America is still recovering from this health emergency? Stop counting the money you may lose against the possibility of lives that could be lost. A lot of bigger money makers have chosen to postpone until next year, so why NOT be smart and safe for the public and do the same. I and the rest of the attendee's can wait until the end of summer or into fall or even for next year versus the increased risk of exposure to Covid-19.
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Post by impulse on Mar 25, 2020 9:30:24 GMT -5
I have to say this Virus has me sweating in a different way than as infected. Phoenix Fan Fusion scheduled for Memorial Day Weekend (5/22, 5/23, 5/24) hasn't chosen if they will be cancelled or not. They have noted on their internet site that since the Convention is 9 weeks away that that they are considering all options to make the best decision for all involved as to whether to continue as planned for the holiday weekend or for rescheduling to a later date. Don't be stupid and make the right choice. Just reschedule already! Follow the lead of what is going on around the city and the world. Better safe than sorry I say and avoid being in trouble. The 9 weeks is just on the inner edge for the projected 12+ week isolation/recovery process and too close for the risk. And how can you have a FAN Convention if the Stars and Vendors which are the main draw can't travel across the country while America is still recovering from this health emergency? Stop counting the money you may lose against the possibility of lives that could be lost. A lot of bigger money makers have chosen to postpone until next year, so why NOT be smart and safe for the public and do the same. I and the rest of the attendee's can wait until the end of summer or into fall or even for next year versus the increased risk of exposure to Covid-19. It seems like a no-brainer. I guarantee you, a crowded convention is the absolute last place I would voluntarily go during the pandemic.
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