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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 14, 2020 14:51:01 GMT -5
Wisconsin under Scott Walker was pretty much the same I think. My parents were very anti-unions but later wished they hadn't been. They thought they were personal friends with my Dad's employer up until he suddenly sold the business to someone who wanted my Dad's job in particular and he used a single leave of absence agreed to by the employer to move to a different role experimentally as grounds to give him severance based on only one year in the job he had filled for well over a decade (and fought for Sunday openings which benefited the employer more than anyone). Got a free turkey every year but at the final accounting paid steeply for every one of those birds (he really got the bird as they say). Wisconsin under Walker essentially became a subsidiary of the Koch Brothers, who are to the average workingman what the Black Death was to Europe.
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Post by impulse on Jul 14, 2020 14:59:41 GMT -5
I'm tired of Season 2020 of Earth. Can we get a new showrunner already and soft reboot? Something more upbeat please.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 14, 2020 16:12:08 GMT -5
People are masking up to the south but here they are coming off (B.C. and Alberta) with no mandatory orders. It's just such a simple thing to do though, especially if you want things to get back to functioning. I'm afraid seeing only 1 in every ten people wearing one lately around here we will be just like other places that end up having to go backward. I can only vouch for my Mom and I as wearing one everytime outside the house, I think a lot of other people are just 'weak as water' as Mrs. Slocombe in Are You Being Served used to say. They... just... do... not... get... it. Until they or someone they love actually does get it. This is no game. You want to get back close to normal do everything you can in your power to get there or it's collapsed hospitals with disappearing staff and almost nobody doing much of anything. Don't pat yourself on the back too hard Canada! We get U.S. local news (WPIX NYC, KTLA L.A., WGN Chicago, WSBK Boston, KOMO Seattle etc.) all about masks being made mandatory. I wish the people who "looked at" doing this in B.C. and Alberta hadn't decided it was overreaching, and maybe didn't want to be called names, because they may be forced to do it anyway yet if the numbers start going up (and as it takes a couple weeks for that it's really down the tracks when they apply such brakes).
So very frustrating that such a number of people seem so determined to keep relearning what is reality. If ill but non-covid infected people may be getting counted who shouldn't be, there are bound to be a lot who are asymptomatic and untested and not counted who should, and the deaths are under counted when some places are not testing people who have died at home or listing heart attack as sole cause when they had covid which contributed. There is enough evidence it does effect the heart, not just lungs, with the lowered oxygen intake/absorption. I did not realize there had been as many U.S. people talking against masks earlier, what an error! We didn't get that up here; early on we had more of a panic about not getting masks that were ordered.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 14, 2020 17:32:13 GMT -5
I'm happy to say that most of the people I see on the occasions that I go out & about are wearing masks. Oregon has been one of the least hard-hit states. Out numbers of cases and deaths are climbing, but not as quickly as many others. I hope we can keep this up.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 14, 2020 23:36:39 GMT -5
Bonne Fete Nationale!
(Happy Bastille Day!)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 1:03:50 GMT -5
I think if I were to write a memoir of 2020, I might title it "Playing Solitaire While Waiting on the End of the World"...
-M
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 15, 2020 4:51:52 GMT -5
Your state has sucky laws
27 states have Right To Work laws.
I've lived in Iowa, Nebraska, Oklahoma and California, and of course, California is the only one of those state that does NOT have Right To Work Laws.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 15, 2020 7:39:18 GMT -5
If I understand brutalis post correctly, the company can document that your work performance is poor and terminate you. Sounds like a setup, they give you the work for 2 people and when you fail, they claim you weren't trying hard. Terrible.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 15, 2020 8:33:11 GMT -5
If I understand brutalis post correctly, the company can document that your work performance is poor and terminate you. Sounds like a setup, they give you the work for 2 people and when you fail, they claim you weren't trying hard. Terrible. I've seen it done. In a company I worked for, the CEO wanted to fire a certain scientist who frequently disagreed with him. The law forbids firing a person without cause, so cause had to be found... and the CEO had a performance review process started, while at the same time setting certain unattainable objectives for the scientist. After a few months, the case was to be evaluated by a small committee supervised by the HR department. Since I was the scientist's supervisor, I was obviously involved in the process. I judged that the person was doing a fine job, especially considering the impossible goals that had been set. (It was really a great employee... just not one to say "there are five fingers" when there are four). Not only was I overruled, but I was removed from the evaluation process altogether... because I was "too personally involved with the members of my team". The Yes-men and sycophants who then passed judgement fired the scientist, "with cause" (because the impossible goals had not been met). The game had been rigged right from the start.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 15, 2020 8:38:04 GMT -5
If I understand brutalis post correctly, the company can document that your work performance is poor and terminate you. Sounds like a setup, they give you the work for 2 people and when you fail, they claim you weren't trying hard. Terrible. I've seen it done. In a company I worked for, the CEO wanted to fire a certain scientist who frequently disagreed with him. The law forbids firing a person without cause, so cause had to be found... and the CEO had a performance review process started, while at the same time setting certain unattainable objectives for the scientist. After a few months, the case was to be evaluated by a small committee supervised by the HR department. Since I was the scientist's supervisor, I was obviously involved in the process. I judged that the person was doing a fine job, especially considering the impossible goals that had been set. (It was really a great employee... just not one to say "there are five fingers" when there are four). Not only was I overruled, but I was removed from the evaluation process altogether... because I was "too personally involved with the members of my team". The Yes-men and sycophants who then passed judgement fired the scientist, "with cause" (because the impossible goals had not been met). The game had been rigged right from the start. I hope that victims of this setup have legal recourse.
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Post by brutalis on Jul 15, 2020 9:50:07 GMT -5
If I understand brutalis post correctly, the company can document that your work performance is poor and terminate you. Sounds like a setup, they give you the work for 2 people and when you fail, they claim you weren't trying hard. Terrible. Now you are getting it brudder Icc, My job description has changes to it 4 times in the last 2 years with each move calculated for adding more duties which should be under the purview of Managers in hope of forcing CSA's out. Since that hasn't done it for them they are utilizing the COVID disaster to their advantage by now moving ALL CSA's into a role in patient care and not a part of our current role. Once Covid is over all they have to do is say BOTH positions are now part of the job or say there is no longer a CSA role & we are all now HUC's. So either overwork is or demote us which MOST will choose to resign. I have been playing the long wait game now for the last 3 years with knowing that for myself it meant eventually resigning.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 15, 2020 10:57:26 GMT -5
Many companies dump their staff to get new people at a cheaper rate. The Post Office is paying the new carriers at a lower rate than about 6 years ago. They are dying for me and people like me to retire.
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Post by brutalis on Jul 15, 2020 11:12:25 GMT -5
Many companies dump their staff to get new people at a cheaper rate. The Post Office is paying the new carriers at a lower rate than about 6 years ago. They are dying for me and people like me to retire. Hold out as long as you can my friend. Stay as long as tolerable and plan ahead should the time to go NOT so quietly into the night arrives.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 15, 2020 11:16:04 GMT -5
They are not bothering me, Thank God. But they have definitely lowered the standards of conduct. All the new young people talk on their phones all day long.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 15, 2020 11:17:05 GMT -5
We have a union.
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