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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 11, 2018 11:12:06 GMT -5
My God, when you see some of the pedantically argumentative and insulting posts that pass for discussion in certain social media comic groups, it sure makes me grateful for the respectful and intelligent tone of this place. I am indeed flabbergasted by the sheer horror that is the typical Youtube discussion. The CCF is like a haven of civility by comparison.
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Post by hondobrode on May 11, 2018 15:21:55 GMT -5
Can I double like both of the above posts ?
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Post by Icctrombone on May 12, 2018 2:01:02 GMT -5
I say this with all appreciation that it's because of the faithful care of the mods that this forum hasn't become a hostile contentious place. There have been about 4 members that were threatening to turn this forum into a battleground. It was quickly and expertly handled by them. Thank guys.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on May 12, 2018 4:29:01 GMT -5
Help, I'm in a cringe worthy situation. Behold:
Me and my wife own a house in California. We've been renting it out since October of 2017 from overseas (expat now). Up until recently we had a property manager handing everything, but this person wasn't really doing a good job. Good friend, but it was clear after a while we needed someone else to handle things. A couple of months ago we went back to the USA for vacation, and while we were there we hired a highly rated property management company. Basically we just wanted to make sure all rent was received on time (an issue that happened twice, but I think it was mostly due to our previous property manager not being on top of things 100%), and have an inspection once a year or so, just to make sure everything is working okay maintenance wise. Something our first property manager didn't do.
So some weeks pass. Get the first rent under new management on time. Now it's in the second month, and I was asking my new property management team about an inspection that was supposed to take place not too long after the first new payment under them. I got a response rather quickly that for a couple of weeks now they've tried to schedule an inspection with the tenants, but they couldn't get them to work out a good enough time to inspect. So a new "notice of entry" was given to them, and there is an inspection to be planned this coming Tuesday. When I got this information (last night my time) I was thinking "great". Things are rolling along. However, just a few minutes ago my wife contacted me telling me she got an email from one of the tenants themselves. My wife isn't sure how her email was acquired (maybe it was our first property manager that gave it out just in case something came up), but basically the response was something along the lines of this (I'm paraphrasing):
"Hi, I'm your current tenant. Me and my husband moved into your house nearly two years ago after our daughter was born. We've always taken care of your home, and taken care of any maintenance issues ourselves. Unfortunately there was a couple of miscommunications incidents with getting the rent to you through your first property manager. Since that time, we've tried inquiring to her before if there were ways to send money directly to you like (that information was not communicated to me) direct deposit, or Zelle via Wells Fargo. With the recent property management change we feel like we've been harassed from the start. Today we got a notice of entry stating that we've been uncooperative, and thatthe owners are unhappy. Not sure why the sudden need for an inspection, but my husband is really busy traveling for work recently, and I have my hands full with a toddler. We have never done anything wrong and do not understand the need to go to the extremes of serving us with this notice of entry. We loved your unit, and had been very happy raising my little girl here. But now we longer feel that way. If you and your husband are truly unhappy due to any of our actions, we apologize. But with your new management in place, we are unlikely to renew the lease at the end of the contract. Also, if the notice of entry must be enforced I would like to kindly ask for an extension to a time when my husband can be home with me. Thank you.
So that is where I'm currently at now. I feel like one inspection a year is normal from what I've researched. And the option for that is in the lease. I'm not trying to disrupt anyone's livelihood (we have a child ourselves right now), and they seem like good people from what I've heard, but it's our house, and we just want to make sure that everything is ok with our investment. Don't think that is so much to ask. I just don't know how to take care of this. I feel like I shouldn't have to email my property manager again with this recent response. Two months in they've been way more on top of their game compared to what I previously had. Quick response time too. I was going to email the tenant myself and have a dialogue. I can see myself granting an extension, but I feel like an inspection needs to happen. Their lease is up in October. How should I handle it? As you can tell, I don't have much experience renting out.
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Post by The Captain on May 12, 2018 6:27:38 GMT -5
BigPapaJoe - in my experience (I work with vendors and contracts in my professional life), your best bet is to be upfront and honest with your renters. Tell them that it is not that you are unhappy, and that you are sorry that they feel they have been harassed by the property management company; let them know that you will address that second point with the property management at a separate time (and make sure you do follow through on that). However, explain to them that you would like an inspection to be performed once annually, and that there is a clause in the lease that allows for that to ensure the house (your investment) is being kept up with, but that you are more than willing to work through scheduling it for a time that works best for her, understanding her desire to have her husband present for the event for safety and comfort reasons. The key is being flexible and human, rather than beating them over the head with the lease, which in most cases will calm any fears and tensions they may have. Show them that you are not unreasonable, not unhappy, and that you see their point of view, and that you don't mean to inconvenience them with the inspection but that you do need for it to happen because you are overseas and cannot put eyes on the property on a regular basis. As well, let them know that you value them as tenants and that you want to do what you can to make them comfortable and interested in renting further. Honesty and open communication in situations like this can go a long way to smoothing over ruffled feathers and maintaining a harmonious relationship, which may encourage them to continue renting past the expiration of this current lease.
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Post by Confessor on May 12, 2018 6:48:40 GMT -5
I say this with all appreciation that it's because of the faithful care of the mods that this forum hasn't become a hostile contentious place. The other mods are great, but mostly it's me. I really do make this place better for everyone by simply being here. My green space-bunny avatar has a lot to do with it. There have been about 4 members that were threatening to turn this forum into a battleground. It was quickly and expertly handled by them. Thank guys. Nah, in all seriousness, thank you for these words, Icc. It means a lot. The whole moderating team take their role here very seriously and always try to resolve issues in a way that's best for the community. So, thank you again.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 7:09:48 GMT -5
The whole moderating team take their role here very seriously and always try to resolve issues in a way that's best for the community. So, thank you again. Believe me I know you take this seriously! One day my doorbell rang. Two guys were standing on my front porch. They said they were from the CCF Mod Squad. They had a complaint about a Liefeld thread I had started. They barged in and went thru all my comic books. They tore up all my issues with a Liefeld cover & left. They said next time there would be no warning... if it happened again they would weigh me down with pouches and... they didn't complete the statement. I never want to find out what the rest of that warning was!!!
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Post by Icctrombone on May 12, 2018 8:06:34 GMT -5
Liefeld thread? You're lucky you didn't get banned.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on May 12, 2018 8:11:28 GMT -5
BigPapaJoe - in my experience (I work with vendors and contracts in my professional life), your best bet is to be upfront and honest with your renters. Tell them that it is not that you are unhappy, and that you are sorry that they feel they have been harassed by the property management company; let them know that you will address that second point with the property management at a separate time (and make sure you do follow through on that). However, explain to them that you would like an inspection to be performed once annually, and that there is a clause in the lease that allows for that to ensure the house (your investment) is being kept up with, but that you are more than willing to work through scheduling it for a time that works best for her, understanding her desire to have her husband present for the event for safety and comfort reasons. The key is being flexible and human, rather than beating them over the head with the lease, which in most cases will calm any fears and tensions they may have. Show them that you are not unreasonable, not unhappy, and that you see their point of view, and that you don't mean to inconvenience them with the inspection but that you do need for it to happen because you are overseas and cannot put eyes on the property on a regular basis. As well, let them know that you value them as tenants and that you want to do what you can to make them comfortable and interested in renting further. Honesty and open communication in situations like this can go a long way to smoothing over ruffled feathers and maintaining a harmonious relationship, which may encourage them to continue renting past the expiration of this current lease. Great response. This makes me feel a lot better about the situation. I think I have a better grip on how to move forward. Thanks.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on May 12, 2018 8:12:38 GMT -5
I say this with all appreciation that it's because of the faithful care of the mods that this forum hasn't become a hostile contentious place. There have been about 4 members that were threatening to turn this forum into a battleground. It was quickly and expertly handled by them. Thank guys. I guess I still don't visit here often enough to be aware of situations like this occurring. Glad things haven't gotten bad yet though.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 12, 2018 10:07:18 GMT -5
I say this with all appreciation that it's because of the faithful care of the mods that this forum hasn't become a hostile contentious place. There have been about 4 members that were threatening to turn this forum into a battleground. It was quickly and expertly handled by them. Thank guys. It only took forty lashes and a week in the stocks...but I've been trying not to be contentious.
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Post by Confessor on May 12, 2018 10:51:31 GMT -5
It only took forty lashes and a week in the stocks...but I've been trying not to be contentious. It was done for your own security and protection, citizen. England prevails!
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Post by Icctrombone on May 12, 2018 11:04:09 GMT -5
I say this with all appreciation that it's because of the faithful care of the mods that this forum hasn't become a hostile contentious place. There have been about 4 members that were threatening to turn this forum into a battleground. It was quickly and expertly handled by them. Thank guys. It only took forty lashes and a week in the stocks...but I've been trying not to be contentious. You're okay in my book, SB.
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Post by Jesse on May 12, 2018 12:40:40 GMT -5
Worked on this drawing a little this morning and ended up pretty happy with it. Still figuring out how I want to fill in the lettering though. How do you ink a drawing with a partially numb hand? Slowly.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 12:43:43 GMT -5
Worked on this drawing a little this morning and ended up pretty happy with it. Still figuring out how I want to fill in the lettering though. How do you ink a drawing with a partially numb hand? Slowly. Nicely Done ...
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