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Post by Rob Allen on Jan 18, 2020 22:16:57 GMT -5
I hadn't actually heard that song before, Rob, although I had heard of it. I'm happy to have introduced you to a new piece of music. I've known the Jolson song most of my life because it was on a "Sing Along with Mitch Miller" album that my parents had. I know you're familiar with a lot of obscure corners of American popular music; have you encountered the "Sing Along with Mitch" experience?
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Post by Confessor on Jan 18, 2020 22:33:11 GMT -5
I hadn't actually heard that song before, Rob, although I had heard of it. I'm happy to have introduced you to a new piece of music. I've known the Jolson song most of my life because it was on a "Sing Along with Mitch Miller" album that my parents had. I know you're familiar with a lot of obscure corners of American popular music; have you encountered the "Sing Along with Mitch" experience? I have not, no.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 19, 2020 0:49:08 GMT -5
There are two or three versions the Charlatans recorded, I think the earlier ones where they had Mike ferguson and Dan Hicks still in the group are best. Ooh, noooooo... I like those earlier versions of the song just fine, but to me, there were always too many substandard musicians in The Charlatans during their 1964-1968 heyday for them to ever be more than a fairly mediocre electric jugband. By far their biggest contribution to the Haight-Ashbury hippie scene was a stylistic one -- their Victorian/Edwardian clothing, their psychedelic poster art, the concept of all-night jams etc. That's why, despite being arguably the first band to play the so-called "San Francisco Sound", they never achieved the commercial success of some of their Bay Area contemporaries, like Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead, and Quicksilver Messenger Service. It was only after two of the best musicians from the original line-up, Mike Wilhelm and Richard Olsen, recruited keyboardist Darrell DeVore and drummer Terry Wilson that they actually made any music that a major record label was willing to record and put out. The band's one and only studio album from 1969 is by far the best stuff The Charlatans ever recorded IMHO. Wilhelm was great, loved his slide on 32-20 Blues. But Mike Ferguson was a great character, his piano and vocals added a lot (he went on to record and illustrate the Tongue & Groove album on Fontana which i think came out before the lone latter day Charlatans album, and he was the main artist on those posters as well as the supplier of the Edwardian duds), and Dan Hicks (many albums with his Hot Licks on Blue Thumb and Columbia/CBS) also was great on vocals and an excellent song writer... so okay George Hunter was kind of just this guy with an autoharp who also worked on the posters. Without those two guys (Ferguson and Hicks) they were half a band, lacking character, and really, they did that one album and were gone if they really even were a group when that was done (they tried to replace Ferguson with some kind of Shakey's pizza parlour piano guy and it shows, plus so many of the vocals were weak, maybe Mike Wilhelm did not want to be lead singer, they had this washed out sort of Byrds chorus lacking in character on some and no vocal on things that earlier there had been)... and Wilhelm joined the Flamin' Goovies and was great with them. Richard Olsen could write some interesting stuff I think. That 1969 album isn't a washout but it was disappointing (that is the original 11 tracks, the CD adds two tracks at the end which have Ferguson and Hicks). This is what should've been:
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 19, 2020 10:16:11 GMT -5
(Looks outside)
Fine, fine... I’ll go shovel snow.
That’s how my granddad died, by the way, and there’s hardly a more Canadian way to go!
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 19, 2020 11:20:14 GMT -5
Woo-hoo! Came home yesterday from a week at my sister's house to find an exciting message in my email inbox. An apartment has opened up and I'll be moving within the next couple of weeks. The most exciting part is that I'm moving into the unit I lived in during my first stay at Heatherstone (1989-95). The two apartments have virtually identical layouts, save only that there is a walkaround into the kitchen. Also, the dining room windows open in the new unit, which means I'll have cross-ventilation during the summer without having to leave my front door open. Needless to say, I'm positively beside myself with glee at the prospect of moving into a clean, renovated apartment after 21 years in the crumbling husk that is my current abode. I won't say my streak of bad luck is over (one mustn't tempt fate) but today, anyway, I am a happy man.
Cei-U! I summon the moving crew!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 11:57:48 GMT -5
After 21 years in your current abode, I think it's great that a better place has shown up. Well done!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 12:12:52 GMT -5
Good News ... Cei-U and Congratulations.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 19, 2020 16:54:51 GMT -5
Good news Cei-U, I'm happy for you! Also the musician MIA in Australia I think I mentioned earlier has surfaced alive if not entirely well given the state of things down there.
Ever get one of those thumper headaches where you move at all and Bam-Bam from the Flintstones is suddenly inside your skull? I took a regular plain aspirin, and that seems to be the right thing... Aleve for muscles, Tylenol 1 for jaw and joint, and plain aspirin for these basic headaches. I'm glad I rarely get these.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 7:42:46 GMT -5
I read this John Adams quote on the White House website:
“My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived.”
Interesting. Others have said similar things.
I would not compare the UK, as a democracy that has a hereditary monarch, with the United States, a republic whose head of state is the president. It's apples and oranges again.
But there do seem to be positions in governments that seem almost powerless/redundant. I mean, there's no constitutional requirement for the UK to have a deputy prime minister. But we have had them. And some, including political pundits, haven't been entirely sure what the deputy prime minister does.
I know the vice president of the US has certain functions, but in some ways, it does seem a ceremonial role.
Incidentally, I avoid political discussions (everywhere) as they divide people and are toxic. But this is more about a political mechanism than anything partisan. I just found Adams' quote to be interesting.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 20, 2020 8:16:06 GMT -5
I read this John Adams quote on the White House website: “My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived.”Interesting. Others have said similar things. I would not compare the UK, as a democracy that has a hereditary monarch, with the United States, a republic whose head of state is the president. It's apples and oranges again. But there do seem to be positions in governments that seem almost powerless/redundant. I mean, there's no constitutional requirement for the UK to have a deputy prime minister. But we have had them. And some, including political pundits, haven't been entirely sure what the deputy prime minister does. I know the vice president of the US has certain functions, but in some ways, it does seem a ceremonial role. Incidentally, I avoid political discussions (everywhere) as they divide people and are toxic. But this is more about a political mechanism than anything partisan. I just found Adams' quote to be interesting. I'm not a History major but I believe the Presidents Cabinet is similar in that It's not constitutionally mandated. They just added the positions as the history of the US progressed. But lets not turn this into a political type discussion. That only leads to fights .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 8:24:41 GMT -5
Never my intent. I avoid political discussions in real life, including with family. I don't tell anyone how I vote in elections or referendums. Experience has shown me it is very tribal (add religion and/or atheistic discussions to that list).
But I like to discuss the non-partisan mechanisms of government. There's a current debate about our second chamber, the House of Lords, possibly moving outside of London. Or being replaced with a Senate. In any discussions I have, I feel I can share a view about that without being partisan or getting into party politics.
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Post by brutalis on Jan 20, 2020 9:47:43 GMT -5
Oh the joys of a Monday morning. Whatever can go wrong will go wrong? As of 3AM ALL Land phone lines in Phoenix through 2 different companies are totally down. Means in our hospital: NO CALLS OUT/NO CALLS IN unless made from a cell phone. Internally: MANY of the phone links to departments and units are down as well. The big one: NONE of the Patient room lines are connecting, so patients are unable to call for meals or even call out to the main unit desk to notify staff. What a fun start to a week. Yeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Post by impulse on Jan 20, 2020 10:42:05 GMT -5
Oh the joys of a Monday morning. Whatever can go wrong will go wrong? As of 3AM ALL Land phone lines in Phoenix through 2 different companies are totally down. Means in our hospital: NO CALLS OUT/NO CALLS IN unless made from a cell phone. Internally: MANY of the phone links to departments and units are down as well. The big one: NONE of the Patient room lines are connecting, so patients are unable to call for meals or even call out to the main unit desk to notify staff. What a fun start to a week. Yeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Good grief! That's awful! How does a landline even go down? I hope they can resolve it quickly.
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Post by brutalis on Jan 20, 2020 10:50:35 GMT -5
Oh the joys of a Monday morning. Whatever can go wrong will go wrong? As of 3AM ALL Land phone lines in Phoenix through 2 different companies are totally down. Means in our hospital: NO CALLS OUT/NO CALLS IN unless made from a cell phone. Internally: MANY of the phone links to departments and units are down as well. The big one: NONE of the Patient room lines are connecting, so patients are unable to call for meals or even call out to the main unit desk to notify staff. What a fun start to a week. Yeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Good grief! That's awful! How does a landline even go down? I hope they can resolve it quickly. From what we are hearing, there was a massive computer/electrical disruption which caused surges throughout the city. Some areas were unaffected but areas and businesses with high computer/electrical usage were severely affected. Seems our internal phone system is now offline due to the computer connections going down and our IT people are working with the outside phone companies to attempt re-establishing connections/communications. Feels like I am in an Irwin Allen Disaster movie...
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Post by impulse on Jan 20, 2020 11:14:06 GMT -5
Geez. It sounds like you guys use some kind of voice over IP system and not traditional landline. Interesting that fear of downtime on emergency services was one of the biggest arguments against that tech for some time. I am hoping for a rapid resolution for you and your whole area.
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