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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 13, 2021 18:24:01 GMT -5
They really do that? I suppose they just want to conform to the manufacturer's directions, but since both the J&J and the Pfizer vaccines target the Spike protein, one shot of each should do pretty much the same as two shots of either. Are they doing just one Pfizer up by you, RR? Moderna is two shots here, too. Two shots for everything but the one-shot Johnson & Johnson, but I haven't seen it in Quebec yet. I'm due to get the first Astra Zeneca injection on Thursday (the only one that a relative youngster like yours truly can get at this time; the state seems to be emptying its stocks after rumours of blood clotting caused a ruckus earlier this month). The campaign seems to be giving results already; despite a marked increase in cases, the death rate is pretty low. And we clearly don't see as many elderly people getting sick. Science! It works!
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Post by Calidore on Apr 13, 2021 18:28:51 GMT -5
Had an appointment to get vaxxed at Costco ("usually Moderna") tomorrow morning. Turns out it would have been J & J, so they just cancelled the appointment. I much prefer either Moderna or Pfizer anyway, so not really bothered except by having to go back to square one.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 13, 2021 19:52:18 GMT -5
Received email update for my COVID vaccination this Saturday. Still on but changed from Johnson & Johnson one and done to Pfizer 1st shot with 2nd shot in 2 weeks. At least not Cancelled. Such is life. you know the reason, correct?
the J&J shot has been put on hold in USA by the CDC as they investigate a few cases of blood clots, and if they are tied to the J&J vaccine.
the chances of an issue are still minuscule, but still better safe than sorry. Moderna & Pfizer use a different process to manufacture, and don't have this issue. so glad they just moved you to a different supplier instead of cancelling.
odd they are saying 2 weeks tho. . timeline between Pfizer is supposed to be ~3 weeks (and ~4 for Moderna)
The 2 wks was an error in their initial notice I think in the rush to get the notice out. When I went online to confirm it showed 5/8/21 as when my 2nd shot would be which is 3 wks after my initial shot.
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Post by impulse on Apr 14, 2021 8:29:54 GMT -5
Well, almost 24 hours later, and other than a slightly sore arm around the injection spot, I've had no discernible symptoms I can be sure had anything to do with the vaccine. I was nervous I would feel like crap and need to call out of work and get behind, but so far I have been very lucky.
For what it's worth, one positive point for Pfizer.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 14, 2021 8:34:06 GMT -5
Well, almost 24 hours later, and other than a slightly sore arm around the injection spot, I've had no discernible symptoms I can be sure had anything to do with the vaccine. I was nervous I would feel like crap and need to call out of work and get behind, but so far I have been very lucky. For what it's worth, one positive point for Pfizer. My wife had the Pzizer vaccine and she had absolutely no problems with either one. I got a little tired the afternoon after my second Moderna, but that was hardly distinguishable from any other afternoon. So glad to hear you're halfway there!
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Post by Calidore on Apr 14, 2021 10:10:21 GMT -5
Try 2: Managed to get an appointment tomorrow afternoon at a vaccination site next to Wrigley Field. Wild watching the appointments vanish as I tried to snag one. No idea if it's Pfizer or Moderna, but I don't think it really matters between the two.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 14, 2021 10:14:35 GMT -5
Second dose of Pfizer is in my arm. My wife gets her second this week, too. What a relief. Congrats! I recently received an insulting email by a student who calls me unprofessional for disparaging the anti-vax movement... in my immunology class!!! Needless to say, despite the sting of the rebuke, I'll get vaccinated as soon as I can... which means later this week. Shaking my head, pounding my forehead, mouth agape. But why do I have this reaction? Why should I be amazed by the depths to which we sink as an allegedly sentient species? Long story short. Last week I was picking up a book at the library; they leave requested books outside to be picked up. One of the librarian's assistants happened to be out there and we got to talking after I thanked her for being part of this great service to the community. When I mentioned how wonderful it will be for all of us to be able to be back to relative normal when almost everyone is vaccinated, she admitted sheepishly that she was "a rebel" amongst the other staff, as, though eligible, she has yet to be vaccinated and probably won't be. When I tried to allay her fears and encourage her to get her shot, I had to try to counter each of these arguments, which she offered courteously and without rancor: "I don't want to get the Corona germs injected into me;" "The DNA from the fetal tissue will merge with mine;" "I know a woman whose granddaughter had a seizure after her shot;" "Bill Gates is implanting a dot into our arms to keep track of who has been vaccinated;" "The CDC has been wrong so many times all along;" "The President was just joking about injecting bleach;" "I don't know what to believe;" "I don't know what to believe." She was unaggressive, even appreciative of what I told her in response to each argument, but I didn't change her mind. There's always been willful ignorance, there's always been fearful ignorance, there's always been avoidance, denial and the wearing of mental blinders, but I fear it's never been this widespread or quick-spreading, "thanks" to our ability to instantaneously transmit information everywhere. And the mean, the vile, and the base just see another opportunity for profit in all of that. Mencken was so right, I'm sorry to say.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 14, 2021 10:15:15 GMT -5
Try 2: Managed to get an appointment tomorrow afternoon at a vaccination site next to Wrigley Field. Wild watching the appointments vanish as I tried to snag one. No idea if it's Pfizer or Moderna, but I don't think it really matters between the two. No, it doesn't. Just keep plugging and get one of them.
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Post by impulse on Apr 14, 2021 10:15:52 GMT -5
My wife had the Pzizer vaccine and she had absolutely no problems with either one. I got a little tired the afternoon after my second Moderna, but that was hardly distinguishable from any other afternoon. So glad to hear you're halfway there! More than half! That was shot 2. I should be at peak resistance by the end of the month. Try 2: Managed to get an appointment tomorrow afternoon at a vaccination site next to Wrigley Field. Wild watching the appointments vanish as I tried to snag one. No idea if it's Pfizer or Moderna, but I don't think it really matters between the two. The best one to get is the one that's in your arm. Good luck!
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 14, 2021 22:24:34 GMT -5
This might be more appropriate here rather than in the RIP thread.
The late Bernie Madoff dedicated his life to showing us all the destructive power of unadulterated greed. In his case, that destruction was exacted not just on the victims of his Ponzi scheme, but on members of his own family.
Not a tragic character as in a Greek drama, more like the character of Greed in a medieval morality play.
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Post by impulse on Apr 15, 2021 12:20:43 GMT -5
I hadn't thought about Madoff in quite some time aside from occasionally remembering the saying "He Madoff with all the money!! Har har". My brain does remember the most random things sometimes.
He was quite the topic in my grad school program as I attended shortly after he was convicted. It was rather noteworthy seeing someone actually held to account for large scale white-collar crime as usually the powerful and wealthy manage to evade legal jeopardy. This was also around the time of the economic collapse, and I recall some of those folks were punished, as well. Maybe there was a sense of justice in the air. I guess enough people lost enough money that someone had to be prosecuted.
In fact, I seem to recall a professor saying the reason he was arrested likely was because the crime was perpetuated against other rich and elite folks. I suppose those with power and influence are willing to flex when someone comes after them.
This is an interesting week in that I am being reminded of stuff I hadn't thought about in a long time. Not all of those good. Maybe Superboy punched a reality wall or something.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 15, 2021 12:28:08 GMT -5
I hadn't thought about Madoff in quite some time aside from occasionally remembering the saying "He Madoff with all the money!! Har har". My brain does remember the most random things sometimes. He was quite the topic in my grad school program as I attended shortly after he was convicted. It was rather noteworthy seeing someone actually held to account for large scale white-collar crime as usually the powerful and wealthy manage to evade legal jeopardy. This was also around the time of the economic collapse, and I recall some of those folks were punished, as well. Maybe there was a sense of justice in the air. I guess enough people lost enough money that someone had to be prosecuted. In fact, I seem to recall a professor saying the reason he was arrested likely was because the crime was perpetuated against other rich and elite folks. I suppose those with power and influence are willing to flex when someone comes after them. This is an interesting week in that I am being reminded of stuff I hadn't thought about in a long time. Not all of those good. Maybe Superboy punched a reality wall or something. He had the audacity to steal from rich people. If he'd have stolen from normal people he'd have received a slap on the wrist at worst. Your professor was absolutely correct.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 15, 2021 12:44:31 GMT -5
I hadn't thought about Madoff in quite some time aside from occasionally remembering the saying "He Madoff with all the money!! Har har". My brain does remember the most random things sometimes. He was quite the topic in my grad school program as I attended shortly after he was convicted. It was rather noteworthy seeing someone actually held to account for large scale white-collar crime as usually the powerful and wealthy manage to evade legal jeopardy. This was also around the time of the economic collapse, and I recall some of those folks were punished, as well. Maybe there was a sense of justice in the air. I guess enough people lost enough money that someone had to be prosecuted. In fact, I seem to recall a professor saying the reason he was arrested likely was because the crime was perpetuated against other rich and elite folks. I suppose those with power and influence are willing to flex when someone comes after them. This is an interesting week in that I am being reminded of stuff I hadn't thought about in a long time. Not all of those good. Maybe Superboy punched a reality wall or something. He had the audacity to steal from rich people. If he'd have stolen from normal people he'd have received a slap on the wrist at worst. Your professor was absolutely correct. Because if they went after the people who steal from normal people, there’d be no Amway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 12:52:58 GMT -5
Louboutin heels with red soles are expensive but you only live once and they make me about 6ft 2....
There, I meanwhile'd it because I couldn't say it otherwise.
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Post by impulse on Apr 15, 2021 13:00:27 GMT -5
You only live once. Why not wear expensive shoes?
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