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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 14:34:54 GMT -5
The difference is, because you have a phone, and people know it’s on you, it gives them more reason to KEEP CALLING.
It’s frustrating after a gym session, lasting an hour, to see 3 missed calls from a friend. That same friend would not have left 3 calls within an hour on a landline.
It also changes things. I tried to meet a friend once - and just as I arrived at the pub we were due to meet at, I got a text, asking, “Could we possibly meet in a different pub?” Which was a mile or so away. Back during landlines, you made a commitment - and stuck to it. That friend would have been at the pub, but because of the ubiquity of mobile phones, he felt able to change plans last-minute because he knew I’d see his text.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 3, 2022 17:07:19 GMT -5
Today, July 2, is World UFO today. Enjoy if you celebrate, but please, don't get carried away... -M Didn't think the TV show was THAT big of a deal, worldwide.... Always wondered why they thought colored wigs would be the fashion trend of the future. It deserves to be! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 17:41:14 GMT -5
Incidentally, and I can’t remember if this is a UK or US thing, but I read recently about how UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) is the acronym now rather than UFO.
Damn! A show called UAP doesn’t sound the same. To me, UAP sounds like an insurance loss adjuster or something…
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 3, 2022 18:26:53 GMT -5
Incidentally, and I can’t remember if this is a UK or US thing, but I read recently about how UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) is the acronym now rather than UFO. Damn! A show called UAP doesn’t sound the same. To me, UAP sounds like an insurance loss adjuster or something… I think UAP is the term that The U.S. Airforce and NASA have been applying lately with their official reports. Which is fine, i guess, because UFO has all that kooky baggage attached to it |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 3, 2022 20:46:42 GMT -5
My dad was stationed at the Roswell AFB, when he was in Strategic Air Command, with a B-36 squadron. We were getting ready for dinner one night and the news had some story about UFO nuts gathering in Roswell, for an anniversary of the alleged crash. he had no idea what they were talking about. I told him the story and he said he never heard anything like that, back then and he was stationed there not too long after it supposedly occurred (like a couple of years). No rumors, no wild stories, nothing. He did say the base was high security, because of SAC and they did do some testing there, besides Edwards AFB. I still think the Air Force was testing something and some drunken rancher found a piece of some wreckage and had no clue what it was and the stories kept getting bigger and bigger with the retelling. The Air Force was probably glad that some wild rumor caught everyone's interest so they didn't have to try to cover up some kind of test platform failure.
I'm open to the possibility of life on other planets; but, the actual logistics of crossing that distance and visiting the Earth and only being seen by untrained spotters, usually in remote areas or boring locales makes alien spacecraft the last possibility I'll buy, after more rational explanations have been disproven.
Unless the alien gets out of the spacecraft and looks like Ray Walston, complete with antenna.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 3, 2022 21:00:46 GMT -5
My dad was stationed at the Roswell AFB, when he was in Strategic Air Command, with a B-36 squadron. We were getting ready for dinner one night and the news had some story about UFO nuts gathering in Roswell, for an anniversary of the alleged crash. he had no idea what they were talking about. I told him the story and he said he never heard anything like that, back then and he was stationed there not too long after it supposedly occurred (like a couple of years). No rumors, no wild stories, nothing. He did say the base was high security, because of SAC and they did do some testing there, besides Edwards AFB. I still think the Air Force was testing something and some drunken rancher found a piece of some wreckage and had no clue what it was and the stories kept getting bigger and bigger with the retelling. The Air Force was probably glad that some wild rumor caught everyone's interest so they didn't have to try to cover up some kind of test platform failure. I'm open to the possibility of life on other planets; but, the actual logistics of crossing that distance and visiting the Earth and only being seen by untrained spotters, usually in remote areas or boring locales makes alien spacecraft the last possibility I'll buy, after more rational explanations have been disproven. Unless the alien gets out of the spacecraft and looks like Ray Walston, complete with antenna. However the U.S. Airforce had released their long awaited report a few months back listing about 120 incidents within the last 10 years of sightings that have been documented and tracked by the navy and air force that can not be explained. These events were detected by all the sophisticated equipment the armed forces possess, and showing UAP's performing manouvers and obtaining speeds our forces can not match As many say, whether these objects are alien or from earth, it is quite disturbing that they seem more advanced than our capabilities and therefore a matter of national security |
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Post by The Captain on Jul 3, 2022 21:27:17 GMT -5
I used to be OK with the 4th of July when fireworks were done by towns or municipalities on the actual day itself.
Now, with the rise of fireworks stores, any yahoo can buy himself some and put on his own show. As I type this, I have at least six neighbors setting them off the night before the holiday. It's freaking the hell out of my cats, and frankly, with how dry it's been around here lately, making me a little nervous about someone's yard or an open field of brush catching on fire.
Just not a fan.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 3, 2022 21:55:11 GMT -5
We were getting ready for dinner one night and the news had some story about UFO nuts gathering in Roswell, for an anniversary of the alleged crash. he had no idea what they were talking about. I told him the story and he said he never heard anything like that, back then and he was stationed there not too long after it supposedly occurred (like a couple of years). No rumors, no wild stories, nothing. Ah, but then he would say that, wouldn't he?  Your Dad had obviously been well drilled by his superiors. He was likely involved with retro-engineering advanced alien technology to then be secretly disseminated among the unsuspecting civilian population in their everyday lives. Like Velcro! No human being could invent such a futuristic thing as Velcro.  |
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Post by tartanphantom on Jul 3, 2022 22:34:40 GMT -5
My dad was stationed at the Roswell AFB, when he was in Strategic Air Command, with a B-36 squadron. We were getting ready for dinner one night and the news had some story about UFO nuts gathering in Roswell, for an anniversary of the alleged crash. he had no idea what they were talking about. I told him the story and he said he never heard anything like that, back then and he was stationed there not too long after it supposedly occurred (like a couple of years). No rumors, no wild stories, nothing. He did say the base was high security, because of SAC and they did do some testing there, besides Edwards AFB. I still think the Air Force was testing something and some drunken rancher found a piece of some wreckage and had no clue what it was and the stories kept getting bigger and bigger with the retelling. The Air Force was probably glad that some wild rumor caught everyone's interest so they didn't have to try to cover up some kind of test platform failure. I'm open to the possibility of life on other planets; but, the actual logistics of crossing that distance and visiting the Earth and only being seen by untrained spotters, usually in remote areas or boring locales makes alien spacecraft the last possibility I'll buy, after more rational explanations have been disproven. Unless the alien gets out of the spacecraft and looks like Ray Walston, complete with antenna. I just highlighted the coolest part of your post. I’ve always been fascinated by the atomic age inter-war years, and the “Peacemaker” is no exception. It’s a shame that only one example survives to this day. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 3, 2022 22:49:26 GMT -5
Absolutely! I read about an Uber driver (NYC, I think) who pulled up and ejected his passengers as his SatNav had failed. And he had no clue where to go. I’ll be the bigger man and not talk about how real cabbies learn the Knowledge and are tested on it before being given a badge.  I am actually wondering whether to get rid of my iPhone when it “dies”. I do miss just having a landline. I went to the gym the other day and there were missed calls - nothing of real importance - from folk. Can’t be left alone for a moment. How is that any different than missed calls on a landline? I’ve never quite figured out people’s inability to ignore their cell when they don’t want to answer or be bothered.
I agree, but there is also the way people's social attitudes towards phones and messages have changed: because I do habitually ignore calls, or I have my phone turned off or I don't have it with me or what have you, and I'm continually surprised by how offended a lot of people get about it. It seems that it is considered quite a faux pas by most people these days not to be continually accessible to everyone and not to respond instantly to any communication.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 23:00:58 GMT -5
I used to be OK with the 4th of July when fireworks were done by towns or municipalities on the actual day itself. Now, with the rise of fireworks stores, any yahoo can buy himself some and put on his own show. As I type this, I have at least six neighbors setting them off the night before the holiday. It's freaking the hell out of my cats, and frankly, with how dry it's been around here lately, making me a little nervous about someone's yard or an open field of brush catching on fire. Just not a fan. We had a neighbor who spent $10K on fireworks the year before the pandemic and set off fireworks at least twice a week from early May through October that year. In our neighborhood, it sounded like extended cannon barrages the last three nights between 9:30 and 11 every night, the last 2 nights joined by a chorus of other fireworks coming form other neighbors during the same time. The only even somewhat entertaining moment for us in all of this was 2 years ago when new neighbors had moved in circa early June, buying the house near us that had been owned by an elderly retired couple since I moved in 20 twenty years ago; they were quite obnoxious about things like fireworks and other annoying habits right from the night they moved in, but had a bit of a mishap with the fireworks and blew a hole in the side of the brand new above ground pool they had bought and installed only a week prior to the fireworks mishap destroying it and flooding their garage with the water. Sometimes karma has the last laugh. But yeah, these kind of fireworks displays are quite out of hand around here. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 4:31:20 GMT -5
How is that any different than missed calls on a landline? I’ve never quite figured out people’s inability to ignore their cell when they don’t want to answer or be bothered.
I agree, but there is also the way people's social attitudes towards phones and messages have changed: because I do habitually ignore calls, or I have my phone turned off or I don't have it with me or what have you, and I'm continually surprised by how offended a lot of people get about it. It seems that it is considered quite a faux pas by most people these days not to be continually accessible to everyone and not to respond instantly to any communication.
This is what I was trying to get at. A while back - gym day again - I had a WhatsApp from my friend, but then he’d sent a normal text about 6-7 minutes later. It wasn’t the most urgent thing. He’d also tried to call. In the landline only days, he’d have made a call, left it, not worried - and tried again an hour later. But when I didn’t answer the WhatsApp within minutes, he sent a text. And then a call. It has made some people impatient. My late father used to drive me a bit mad. Once he got a phone (an ordinary one, not a smartphone), if you didn’t answer straightaway or respond within what he considered a reasonable time-frame, he’d start to panic. More than once, he’d call me and tell me that my sister hadn’t responded to a text he’d sent half an hour ago or so. Yet there was never any emergency, she just hadn’t answered immediately. It’s been a mindset change. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 4:33:02 GMT -5
I used to be OK with the 4th of July when fireworks were done by towns or municipalities on the actual day itself. Now, with the rise of fireworks stores, any yahoo can buy himself some and put on his own show. As I type this, I have at least six neighbors setting them off the night before the holiday. It's freaking the hell out of my cats, and frankly, with how dry it's been around here lately, making me a little nervous about someone's yard or an open field of brush catching on fire. Just not a fan. Same here, although not 4th July. Seems that when I was a kid, fireworks for Bonfire Night might start a day or two beforehand - and cease after Bonfire Night was over. Now it seems there are fireworks for weeks before and afterwards. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 4, 2022 5:37:52 GMT -5
I agree, but there is also the way people's social attitudes towards phones and messages have changed: because I do habitually ignore calls, or I have my phone turned off or I don't have it with me or what have you, and I'm continually surprised by how offended a lot of people get about it. It seems that it is considered quite a faux pas by most people these days not to be continually accessible to everyone and not to respond instantly to any communication.
This is what I was trying to get at. A while back - gym day again - I had a WhatsApp from my friend, but then he’d sent a normal text about 6-7 minutes later. It wasn’t the most urgent thing. He’d also tried to call. In the landline only days, he’d have made a call, left it, not worried - and tried again an hour later. But when I didn’t answer the WhatsApp within minutes, he sent a text. And then a call. It has made some people impatient. My late father used to drive me a bit mad. Once he got a phone (an ordinary one, not a smartphone), if you didn’t answer straightaway or respond within what he considered a reasonable time-frame, he’d start to panic. More than once, he’d call me and tell me that my sister hadn’t responded to a text he’d sent half an hour ago or so. Yet there was never any emergency, she just hadn’t answered immediately. It’s been a mindset change. I could understand your dad's concern ,most people have their phone on and on them. Unless you are busy, it should be on and you should answer it. It's a different age since the landline, phones these days are for instant access. When I'm at work and up against a time crunch, I turn my phone off but I let my wife know about it beforehand. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 4, 2022 10:56:03 GMT -5
My dad was stationed at the Roswell AFB, when he was in Strategic Air Command, with a B-36 squadron. We were getting ready for dinner one night and the news had some story about UFO nuts gathering in Roswell, for an anniversary of the alleged crash. he had no idea what they were talking about. I told him the story and he said he never heard anything like that, back then and he was stationed there not too long after it supposedly occurred (like a couple of years). No rumors, no wild stories, nothing. He did say the base was high security, because of SAC and they did do some testing there, besides Edwards AFB. I still think the Air Force was testing something and some drunken rancher found a piece of some wreckage and had no clue what it was and the stories kept getting bigger and bigger with the retelling. The Air Force was probably glad that some wild rumor caught everyone's interest so they didn't have to try to cover up some kind of test platform failure. I'm open to the possibility of life on other planets; but, the actual logistics of crossing that distance and visiting the Earth and only being seen by untrained spotters, usually in remote areas or boring locales makes alien spacecraft the last possibility I'll buy, after more rational explanations have been disproven. Unless the alien gets out of the spacecraft and looks like Ray Walston, complete with antenna. I just highlighted the coolest part of your post. I’ve always been fascinated by the atomic age inter-war years, and the “Peacemaker” is no exception. It’s a shame that only one example survives to this day. Before the base was closed in the mid-90s, Chanute AFB had a B-36 on display. While I was a midshipman, at the Univ of Illinois, in nearby Champaign-Urbana, we had our annual Summer Picnic, where we gathered our families and then had our annual raft race and other shenanigans (the object of any competition was to cheat creatively). One year we had it at the recreational grounds, at Chanute. My dad and I walked around a bit, taking in the aircraft displays and he showed me the B-36 (at a distance, it was fenced off). The thing was huge. When they closed the base, a private museum was opened there, though the original aircraft were Air Force property. The took a lot of them out, including the B-36; but, kept enough there to make for an interesting museum (even had an ICBM silo simulator). My dad didn't tell us a great deal of stories, but he talked a little about being in Greenland, for about 6 months, which he did not enjoy, and about riding motorcycles to travel on the flightline. One year, at B&N, we got in a nice coffee table book about the bomber and various squadrons, which I gave to him for Christmas or his birthday (which was January 7). He was tickled by that. My brother got him a B-36 model kit, which I think he built in a day. He was a mechanic on the bombers, a staff sergeant, and the book had photos of how they did maintenance on the engines, with scaffolding underneath them, while they were on the wings. It also commemorated the crews and planes killed in crashes, as there were many. As a midshipman, we studied the post-War period, as the Air Force was born and Billy Mitchell had sold the idea that Strategic Air Command, alone, would handle the nuclear deterrent and the idea that the Air Force could end any armed conflict. The Navy was quick to develop the Polaris missile, to ensure that they had a piece of things, then Korea happened and proved that the Air Force, alone, could not settle a conflict. In fact, it proved that sea power was necessary to move forces around the globe, as aircraft couldn't carry everything and it took time to build airbases. The carrier battlegroup proved to be the most mobile platform. I think we were always more interested in my dad's service than he was. He did go to a couple of reunions (one in his senior years, where a buddy reminded him of a top secret building, off limits to all, that 'might have been involved in the UFO'); but, aside from a few pictures and uniform items, it was just the past. His memories were more about riding motorcycles, in the desert, which was a bigger deal to him. He won a few trophies, which my brother has (as well as his old crash helmet, which is the old 'dispatch rider' kind). To him, it was a way to not be drafted into the Army and earn the GI Bill, to finish college. He had 2 or 3 years of college, before he went in and was offered OCS; but, turned it down. He didn't want to be an office and I later learned why, when I became one. Too much politics, too many stupid protocols, too many rivalries. Better to be enlisted and be able to have friends and just do what needed to be done, instead of brown-nosing some senior officer. Sergeants and Petty Officers were the ones in charge, anyway. |
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