ironchimp
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Post by ironchimp on May 17, 2014 3:46:18 GMT -5
My wife grew up thinking of herself as "not white" because she was Jewish. Today it seems strange that anyone could look at her and see anything other than a white woman. She read a book recently, "Working Toward Whiteness", about the process that led to Jews, Slavs, etc. being accepted as "white" in America. Basically, as long as their skin was light enough and they agreed to join the white establishment in discriminating against darker-skinned groups, they were accepted. ironchimp, your message suggests that this may not have happened in Europe, or at least in Britain. Are non-germanic people not considered white in Britain today? That reminds me of this joke - it went over well at Passover: A year or two ago, the Chief Rabbi of the UK was knighted by the Queen. After the Queen tapped him on the shoulder with the sword, he said a short prayer in Hebrew. The Queen had never heard that done in a knighting ceremony before, so she turned to her Lord Chamberlain and asked, "why is this knight different from all other knights?" It's really hard to say because western europe is undergoing a period of change at the minute. With borders being opened up to free movement across western europe we may see a change in how things are defined in the coming years but unlike in USA most people will still be travelling and working with their own country's passport, will still be identified by their nationality, and unlike in say immigration 100-50 years ago will not be changing their name nor hiding their identity. Is a Pole "white", a Greek "white", a Spaniard "white"?.. that definition may kind of be in flux at the minute. With Europe's history it's a fine line between respecting someone's history, culture and identity by identifying them by their linguistic or historical name and all out racism. Seeing a jew described as "white" would sound very jarring to a lot of people because they have traditionally been seen (and wanted to be seen when society "allowed" it) as a separate race as well as culture. I think though in super hero comics it's somehow wrong to describe the creators as "white" - as very few people except central european jewish immigrants to USA created them. It seems very culture/history/people specific and even today the idea of super hero in comics are still pretty much an imported art form into europe. There have been very very few popular Euro originated super hero characters (without the catalyst of Marvel UK to actually make it happen) and the European creators working in that side of the industry are nearly all working for US publishers. "We" have judge dredd, "you" have superman. |
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Post by ironchimp on May 17, 2014 3:52:29 GMT -5
Not in person that I remember. It's very, very rare, and quite expensive. My understanding is that it was probably only distributed in Philadelphia. Rumor is there was a second issue produced but never published, but nobody has ever seen any proof of this that I am aware of. The comic is discussed in a History Detectives segment from a couple years ago about the comic book Negro Romances. The segment can be seen here, starting at the 37:40 mark: www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/video/2030192391/I shall check this whole programme out - looks fascinating - or on second thoughts i wont - not available in my region. yeah i'd imagine there would be a real fight for copies of this comic from all sorts of different collectors. |
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Post by shaxper on May 17, 2014 12:21:33 GMT -5
Half way through day two of Motor City Comic Con. Highlights this morning:
My daughter met Don Rosa for the first time and showed off her knowledge. He seemed very touched.
I met Gerry Conway and asked him to sign my Fall of Boss Thorne story from his run on Batman. I told him I considered it to be one of the finest Batman stories ever written. Apparently, Mark Waid is the only other person who has ever praised him on his Batman work.
Got Daryl Banks to sign my Green Lantern 51. Though I'm hardly a fanatic of his work, I really did like the look of that run.
Caught J.M. DeMatteis and Mark Waid in the hallway and thanked them for their work. Hoping to chat up DeMatteis later about his Dr. Fate.
Will catch Chris Claremont later today or tomorrow (the lines were extreme) to have him sign my daughter's copy of X-Men #153 (that one's for you, JKCarrier), and I'm on the fence with having him sign my #96 (his first full script), #98 (where the series becomes amazing, from my perspective), or the first appearance of Marada The She-Wolf since I'm sure he never gets that request.
Might ask Frank Brunner to sign my Heavy Metal with his Elric of Melnibone work.
Should be a great day!
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Post by Pharozonk on May 17, 2014 14:28:12 GMT -5
Half way through day two of Motor City Comic Con. Highlights this morning: My daughter met Don Rosa for the first time and showed off her knowledge. He seemed very touched. I met Gerry Conway and asked him to sign my Fall of Boss Thorne story from his run on Batman. I told him I considered it to be one of the finest Batman stories ever written. Apparently, Mark Waid is the only other person who has ever praised him on his Batman work. Got Daryl Banks to sign my Green Lantern 51. Though I'm hardly a fanatic of his work, I really did like the look of that run. Caught J.M. DeMatteis and Mark Waid in the hallway and thanked them for their work. Hoping to chat up DeMatteis later about his Dr. Fate. Will catch Chris Claremont later today or tomorrow (the lines were extreme) to have him sign my daughter's copy of X-Men #153 (that one's for you, JKCarrier), and I'm on the fence with having him sign my #96 (his first full script), #98 (where the series becomes amazing, from my perspective), or the first appearance of Marada The She-Wolf since I'm sure he never gets that request. Might ask Frank Brunner to sign my Heavy Metal with his Elric of Melnibone work. Should be a great day! Chris Claremont is a really cool guy. He was really nice when I asked him a lot of questions about his work and loves meeting younger fans so you should take your daughter with you. I am so jealous that you get to meet J.M DeMatteis. I have so many questions I want to ask about his Spider-man work! |
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Post by Icctrombone on May 17, 2014 15:55:32 GMT -5
Will catch Chris Claremont later today or tomorrow (the lines were extreme) to have him sign my daughter's copy of X-Men #153 (that one's for you, JKCarrier), and I'm on the fence with having him sign my #96 (his first full script), #98 (where the series becomes amazing, from my perspective), or the first appearance of Marada The She-Wolf since I'm sure he never gets that request. Quick story- I delivered mail in Brooklyn for 16 years before becoming a boss and finally moving to Staten Island and going back to the streets to deliver mail again. Anyway Claremont lives in Park Slope and one time I had a letter that needed a signature. His wife came out to sign for it and I told her that I needed a signature and to make it fast before I got the X-men to back me up. She gave a little laugh as i winked at her. Saw Chris a few times also over the years. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on May 18, 2014 10:14:14 GMT -5
I bought these traps that have been killing the mice in the house like gang busters as they say. I checked the traps this morning and the one in the drawer where we keep our storage and freezer bags had one caught by its tail. Very much alive but probably hurting. I took him outside and let him loose. Didn't have the heart to kill him literally have his blood on my hands.
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Post by Rob Allen on May 19, 2014 12:44:49 GMT -5
Don Rosa was at the Emerald City Con this year, but he was really busy every time we went past his booth. I wanted to talk to Don about Robin Lopez, the new center for the Portland Trail Blazers. Robin is a big fan (literally - he's seven feet tall) of Rosa and Barks and Disney comics in general. I hope Don knows that he has a fan in the NBA.
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Post by coke & comics on May 19, 2014 14:53:36 GMT -5
Pol and I got to talk to Don for a bit. Really friendly guy. I made conversation by saying I knew David Gerstein's father, which seemed to really excite Don.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 19, 2014 15:38:27 GMT -5
Sounds very cool, Shax! I'm still on the fence about going to Boston Comicon. On the one hand, I'd love to go and get autos and meet a couple creators (Stan Sakai and Bill Willingham especially), but OTOH, between admission, either train fare or parking, and the rest, its over $100 just to get in the door... never mind buying anything. That's alot of comics I could buy instead  . |
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Post by coke & comics on May 19, 2014 18:09:55 GMT -5
Visited Leeds yesterday. A sign said:
"I refuse to grow old with no memories to hold; I'd rather blow all my dough and travel the world."
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Post by Pharozonk on May 19, 2014 19:44:54 GMT -5
Comicpalooza is just around the corner for us Houstonians so I've got my list of people to meet this weekend:
- Neal Adams
- Roy Thomas
- Pat Broderick
- Josef Rubenstein
- Doug Hazlewood
Stan Lee was actually just added to the guest list this morning, but I sure as hell won't be paying to meet him or get his autograph, though I'll make sure to attend his panel.
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Post by Cherokee Jack on May 20, 2014 15:46:11 GMT -5
Who do you think will get the # 1 pick in the NBA Draft Lottery tonite------Lakers or Celtics?
Personally, I'd like to see Phoenix jump all the way to #1 just for not tanking.
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Post by Jasoomian on May 20, 2014 16:05:20 GMT -5
I think NBA would want the Lakers to be doing better right about now.
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Post by Rob Allen on May 20, 2014 19:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 20, 2014 19:40:07 GMT -5
That looks like a lot of fun! But then the Godzilla trailer was awesome, too... |
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