Man, I'm late to the discussion; but ...

1.Political thread ... I don't participate much. I mostly read it to see personal points of posters. I really enjoyed hearing poster share their stories about meeting Gerald Ford, when I brought up his name. It was like meeting him in person through the poster's words. Current event politics, I don't care for. I'm apathetic and unapologetic about it. That said, it has chased away posters now, and it's not the first time a poster has left due to their policial views. I don't care that the thread is a part of this community, but I don't pretend to think it can/could become a problem again.

2. Miss Jezebel ... if you are reading I am sorry that you do not feel welcome again. Your bias to Rob Liefield aside, I always enjoy reading your viewpoints and wished you would stay. But I can understand that need to move on to what works for you in your life. I hope that you will return again.

3. The Sexy Covers thread ... I don't understand some people's thoughts about it. I think sexuality is great and we should all not feel embarrassed by it. Our society can have the kind of deplorable violence of The Walking Dead on TV and blush at some cleavage. I was raised very sheltered. It has certainly greatly affected how I view things as an adult; especially regarding sexuality. Perhaps if we did have more female posters to start with we could get a consensus if it indeed offensive to them or not. I'm not picking on those that find it offensive, outside of feeling like that might be the case, due to the possibility a female poster might find it to be. Icctrombone does well in monitoring it and I don't see anything that is, as he pointed out, mild compared to today's entertainment. Blonde Phantom is like a 60 year old comic about a gal that fights crime in a evening dress and high heels. But I'd be lying to say that it's not a pull to want to read the issues. It's why I have a Ms Fury TPB. But I enjoyed reading it, even if a sexy gal is what got me to buy it. Covers sell the product much of the time. Even the "ridiculous covers" thread as well. I like that here it is an okay subject without making people feel guilty for a naturally human instinct. It's how we as species keep going.

And Ish, my grandmother would probably be fine with the Sexy Comic thread. After all, the reason I've seen Beastmaster and Tarzan god knows how many times is because the female members of my dad's side of the family liked beefcake. :-)

I hear you Adam. And just to be clear, I don't advocate deleting any thread-if I don't like it I just don't look at it. And I'm certainly no prude.

What got me riled was someone else wanting to delete the politics thread for their own reasons and I found it quite hypocritical:

1-The Politics thread caused some one to leave the forum. Guess what. The weekly cover contest thread got someone to quit and someone else threaten to quit. Should we get rid of that too

2-The Sexy Cover thread is fine since it gets plenty of hits. Guess what. The politics thread got more hits. 

3-The weirdest thing I read was my pointing out how the Sexy Cover thread can offend certain people meant I was defending the act of bullying in the Politics thread. I have a little bit of trouble following the logic behind that staement

My grandmother is 99 years old, god bless her. She's no longer follows politics, couldn't care less about comic covers sexy or otherwise. But she loves pudding

I do agree that it should be all or nothing, as far as what should/is allowed as oppose to what he shouldn't. We all have different feelings on this, and I certainly like that this place unlike the last, doesn't punish people or make them feel bad for having an opinion as long as it's respectful.

And if the bolded part of your post, I was a part of, I apologize for Ish. It wasn't my intent. It's just those two threads were what everyone was talking about and I was late to the party. Though I did read through the whole discussion before posting. I think if one exists with the controversy it is garnering than both should.

Glad that your grandmother is doing well Ish.

Good grief! I always miss the drama. I admit I don't frequent either the politics or cheesecake covers threads, but in general, if someone is getting offended by the content and discourse at CCF of all places on the internet then I just have to wonder how they can function in life. This is probably the most polite place I've ever seen online. Agreed on keeping it in its own thread. If people let it bleed into other places, it should be reported and moved/deleted then, yes? Seems a fairly straight-forward and obvious solution. Also, with as much tension is in the culture at large right now, what honestly do you expect going into a politics thread anywhere?

It's too bad people get their feelings hurt. We obviously don't ever want any of that, and it's always a shame to see people go again, but let's be real. This place is pretty tame for an internet community, and I like that it covers a broad range of niche aspects of comics and culture, even if i don't care to follow them all. I just...don't follow the ones I don't want to.




And on the topic of being late to the party, Iron Man 3! I don't think the Mandarin twist was bad, per se, but the fictitious movie they teased in the trailers looked more interesting to me than the actual movie that ended up being made, canceling out the clever twist for me. Plus it got a little too hard to suspect my disbelief by the end. And yeah, Stark retiring at the end to being back in action at the beginning of Avengers 2 was really weird, too. Plot hole!

Someone left over the Cover Contest? Sorry to hear that.

Also sorry Razorgirl felt she had to leave. I enjoyed her presence on the Forum, even though I disagreed with her about almost everything from comics to politics.

And finally, sorry to hear that potential members have been put off by the Sexy Cover thread. Even though I occasionally comment in it myself, I can understand this POV and wouldn't be at all upset if it was canned. But perhaps it will eventually die a natural death without any top-down decree.

It's a careful balance to strike, too, cutting off pieces and self-censoring every bit that any one person finds offensive. To be clear, I am in no way suggesting that is happening here, as it clearly isn't. I'm just speaking more of the dangers of trying to please everyone this way would lead to chipping away at everything that makes this place interesting and unique and eventually make it dullsville. Classic comics, even with relevant tangential topics, is already a pretty niche interest, so it was never going to appeal to everyone, and I think it makes sense people with similar interests would want to discuss other things with the same folks, so I think it's good to allow the non-comics-specific topics. Particularly on a classic comics forum, suggestive covers are a very relevant topic and part of comics history, particularly when discussing over time as opposed to just posting for its own sake (not that I think there is anything wrong with either). It's hardly a main focus on the site, so it's pretty easy to avoid if you even come across it. It hardly dominates discussion or tone here.

Pro-Trump and anti-Trump folks are going to disagree vehemently no matter where they meet, so as long as the rules for civility and manners that this place is known for are enforced, I think the rest will take care of itself.

Had a friend from out of town call and say he's coming down to Phoenix to visit this weekend so we made plans for spending Saturday at the opening day of the Arizona Renaissance Festival. An entire day devoted to Guinness, roast turkey legs, watching the comedy shows Ded Bob, Don Juan and Miguel, The Tortuga Twins and listening to Cast in Bronze the worlds only traveling Carillon musical act (weighs in over 4 tons with 35 differing sized bronze bells played my a set of pulleys like you would play an organ) and the Celtic interactive comedy/bag pipe playing band called Tartanic: men who play music without pants (it is in their ads) and knights and damsels and jousting meant for entertaining and reliving the 16th century. I say to thee good sirs and milady's: a hearty HUSSAH!!!!