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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 12, 2014 10:23:47 GMT -5
I never watched THE MENTALIST since it was a rip-off of the great show PSYCH. And it was on CBS. I now adjust my expectations for GOTHAM downward accordingly. My expectations are up, Rome was one of the best TV shows that I've ever seen, and it was great because of how well it show cased everyday life drama and that is also what made Gotham Central work as a book so it seems like a perfect match. QFT! Psych was a great show, even up to the end, that had fun guest stars and a good mix of serious plot and comedy.. The Mentalist was a rip off that was joined the huge flock of Sherlock wannabes. Rome was great, but I'd think Gotham would be more like the mystery show than a Historical Docudrama, so that does worry me a bit.
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Post by Jasoomian on Aug 12, 2014 12:48:03 GMT -5
in essentially giving us Superman in season 8-10, it showed that the showrunners no longer believed in their original premise -- that the formative years of Clark Kent could make for good stories
That's a bit unfair. The original premise of the show aged out. Clark was 15 when the show started and 25 when it ended. And the actor was several years older than that. Would you have had Clark stay in high school the whole time? M*A*S*H* (mostly) pulled it off, but that was the exception.
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Post by Jasoomian on Aug 12, 2014 12:52:46 GMT -5
Rome was great, but I'd think Gotham would be more like the mystery show than a Historical Docudrama, so that does worry me a bit. Well, ROME and GOTHAM are both about large cities and from what little we've seen in the previews, Gotham will also, to some degree, be about the labyrinthine family legacies (Wayne, Cobblepot, etc) and politics of the city, so I think there is some comparison to be drawn there. One thing I'd like to see GOTHAM draw from ROME is its timeline. ROME only lasted two seasons, but it covered, what, 15, 20, 25 years in those two seasons? I'd like to see something like with GOTHAM as well. I'd prefer not to wait until season 8 or 9 for Bruce to even start travelling the world and training with Ra's al-Guhl etc
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Post by Randle-El on Aug 12, 2014 16:47:42 GMT -5
in essentially giving us Superman in season 8-10, it showed that the showrunners no longer believed in their original premise -- that the formative years of Clark Kent could make for good storiesThat's a bit unfair. The original premise of the show aged out. Clark was 15 when the show started and 25 when it ended. And the actor was several years older than that. Would you have had Clark stay in high school the whole time? M*A*S*H* (mostly) pulled it off, but that was the exception. I would have ended it sooner. Like I said, 5-6 seasons maybe. I think it would have made for a more interesting story to show his story with some distance from the Superman years.
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Post by Jasoomian on Aug 12, 2014 19:03:40 GMT -5
You could have just stopped watching.
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Post by Randle-El on Aug 12, 2014 19:07:27 GMT -5
You could have just stopped watching. I did. I stopped with season 7. I finished the show on DVD after they ended it. As dragged out as it was, I still wanted to see how they handled Clark embracing the Superman identity.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 30, 2018 11:49:04 GMT -5
I have a different route now. Whew!
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Post by sabongero on May 30, 2018 12:15:05 GMT -5
Smallville was a great show that tapped into the teen angst market and later became all that the comic geeks love. I am curious. Can you expand on what were the things that the comic geeks loved? Thanks.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 30, 2018 12:28:56 GMT -5
I watch Gotham religiously. It's not very good. But I'm a big Batman fan and there's always just enough things I like that I can't turn away.
I call my best friend - he also watches it religiously - the next day and we bag on it mercilessly.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 30, 2018 15:48:04 GMT -5
Smallville was a great show that tapped into the teen angst market and later became all that the comic geeks love. I am curious. Can you expand on what were the things that the comic geeks loved? Thanks. The last few seasons had the LSH, Flash and many of the DC stable of characters.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 30, 2018 22:17:12 GMT -5
I really liked Smallville's take on Luthor.. Michael Rosenbaum was really fantastic. I watched I through season 3 or so... I actually thought it started going down hill when they introduced Lois and started getting closer to Metropolis. It definitely suffered from monster of the week syndrome, and it was crazy just how many high school students they came up with (often ones never before seen before they mutated from the Kryptonite), but if you get over that the characterizations were pretty good.
It's always boggled my mind why they never let Tom Welling play Superman in an movie... he's not a bad actor, and he certainly had the look.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 22:47:19 GMT -5
I really liked Smallville's take on Luthor.. Michael Rosenbaum was really fantastic. I watched I through season 3 or so... I actually thought it started going down hill when they introduced Lois and started getting closer to Metropolis. It definitely suffered from monster of the week syndrome, and it was crazy just how many high school students they came up with (often ones never before seen before they mutated from the Kryptonite), but if you get over that the characterizations were pretty good. It's always boggled my mind why they never let Tom Welling play Superman in an movie... he's not a bad actor, and he certainly had the look. Welling didn't want to wear the Superman suit. It's why the show never had him wear it, he made it clear he didn't want to wear a super-hero outfit and wouldn't renew his contract when it was up if he had to. -M
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Post by Icctrombone on May 31, 2018 1:28:42 GMT -5
Strange, he actually had a nice body for wearing the suit. I really haven't seen him pop up in to many acting roles since Smallville.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 12:21:12 GMT -5
Strange, he actually had a nice body for wearing the suit. I really haven't seen him pop up in to many acting roles since Smallville. He's been a regular on Lucifer this season playing Cain (who masquerades in another identity as the police captain in the show). -M
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Post by sabongero on May 31, 2018 13:38:32 GMT -5
I am curious. Can you expand on what were the things that the comic geeks loved? Thanks. The last few seasons had the LSH, Flash and many of the DC stable of characters. Ah the crossing over and guest appearances of other superheroes. Those are always more entertaining, especially at that time where in never really happened.
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