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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2016 2:12:28 GMT -5
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 10, 2017 12:04:24 GMT -5
Is the cartoon these are based on any good? I still haven't checked it out
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 16:17:49 GMT -5
Is the cartoon these are based on any good? I still haven't checked it out I've enjoyed the first 3 episodes. Of course a lot stems form getting more Kevin Conroy Batman. It's fun and lighthearted. The episodes are only about 12 minutes in length and are done in one, but there are plot threads running through that form a longer storyline. It definitely skews a little younger in its target audience, but still has some classic adventure fare. -M |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 10, 2017 22:14:23 GMT -5
How many times is DC going to reinvent its all-ages toyline and try to sell us the same characters again? I have neither the budget, space, or interest in going down this road again, no matter how nice looking the figures may be.
I briefly tried "The Batman" and Brave and the Bold, but ultimately felt silly for doing so.
I bought the hell out of Justice League Unlimited and the Infinite 3.75" figures a decade back. If they can't make their new figures compatible with those size scales, I'm out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 23:50:55 GMT -5
How many times is DC going to reinvent its all-ages toyline and try to sell us the same characters again? I have neither the budget, space, or interest in going down this road again, no matter how nice looking the figures may be. I briefly tried "The Batman" and Brave and the Bold, but ultimately felt silly for doing so. I bought the hell out of Justice League Unlimited and the Infinite 3.75" figures a decade back. If they can't make their new figures compatible with those size scales, I'm out. Would you prefer the Marvel method where the Legends line is at 682 figures and counting (and not all the Legends are actually to the same scale), but then there is the Diamond select line which has a few hundred figures, and the smaller 3 3/4 line which has a few hundred figures, or go back to the Toy Biz lines which has the same figures, etc. Merchandise is the main money maker for these companies now. Comics don't sell, the movies bring in a lot of money sure, but it is in licensing and merchandising that these companies make their money and they will milk the cash cows as long as it continues to bring in money. For every old fan who stops buying new figures, there's another who starts, and another who buys 2 of everything, one to open and one to keep mint on card, so the money is still there. We've already seen it is toy sales that determines the longevity of DC cartoons (Green Lantern and Young Justice were initially cancelled because of poor sale of the toy lines even though both were actually doing very well ratings wise and critically). So to answer your question, as many times as they can and it still sells. And when t doesn't, that's when DC will stop being a growing concern (not when the bottom falls out of comic sales-because it already has). -M |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2017 8:05:08 GMT -5
How many times is DC going to reinvent its all-ages toyline and try to sell us the same characters again? I have neither the budget, space, or interest in going down this road again, no matter how nice looking the figures may be. I briefly tried "The Batman" and Brave and the Bold, but ultimately felt silly for doing so. I bought the hell out of Justice League Unlimited and the Infinite 3.75" figures a decade back. If they can't make their new figures compatible with those size scales, I'm out. Would you prefer the Marvel method where the Legends line is at 682 figures and counting (and not all the Legends are actually to the same scale), but then there is the Diamond select line which has a few hundred figures, and the smaller 3 3/4 line which has a few hundred figures, or go back to the Toy Biz lines which has the same figures, etc. I would take any size scale that was continuously supported. I've been seriously considering getting into Marvel Legends for that reason, actually. Yes, but let's not pretend that aging fans with money in their pockets isn't an important demographic for them. DC Superhero Girls would be dead without nerd dads encouraging their daughters to get into it, for example. The success of an all-ages series depends both upon kids and adult collectors buying in. It was never really intended as a question. They'll keep doing this as long as it's profitable. I intend not to help make it profitable for them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 11:24:17 GMT -5
It was never really intended as a question. They'll keep doing this as long as it's profitable. I intend not to help make it profitable for them. I only buy the stuff I like, but I don't begrudge them making money on stuff I am not interested or or don't like and I don't wish it would stop because I know when they do stop making money on those things, the stuff I do like will go away too. -M |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2017 12:31:52 GMT -5
It was never really intended as a question. They'll keep doing this as long as it's profitable. I intend not to help make it profitable for them. I only buy the stuff I like, but I don't begrudge them making money on stuff I am not interested or or don't like and I don't wish it would stop because I know when they do stop making money on those things, the stuff I do like will go away too. -M I see it as an either/or. They can commit to continuing the toy lines they have already created and servicing the fans who bought into those lines, or they can start something new in the hopes that we'll be okay with starting all over again and shelling out new money for the same characters we already owned. I think part of their business model actually depends upon us being suckers enough to re-buy, and I have a problem with that. You can't tell me this new figure line is somehow an improvement upon the toy lines that went before or that this scale is somehow more ideal. They did this to prompt folks to rebuy as opposed to supplement the collections they already have. It would be like microsoft dropping support of their previous operating systems the second they launch a new one so that we dump the one we just shelled out a fortune to own and run out to replace it. It's a scam. So I don't think the stuff I like will go away if I don't support this. |
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Post by brutalis on Jan 11, 2017 13:20:30 GMT -5
I think it is also due to toy costs/price points. Toy buying has gotten ridiculously priced and with variations of all the same big name selllers: how many versions of Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Iron Man and such do you really want/need? Buy a 12 inch collectible single figure and its $20-25. A 6 inch single figure is $12-16. Now a 2 inch is $8-10 and only in a 3 pack so they can "tell" you it is more figure for your dollars. It is all about making the sale. And anymore it isn't kids that are asking for the figures, it is mostly the collectors they aim for.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 14:49:03 GMT -5
Maybe if more toys were made to be played with than displayed the wear and tear would would create the need for replacements.
I've no problem making collectible action figures to sell, but there should also be actual toys for kids to play with and if collectors with their need for completeness can't deal with that, it's on them, not the toy makers.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 16:31:30 GMT -5
Just to let you all know that many of my friends that goes to my LCS said that these 2 inch figures aren't anyone cup of tea and having said that these will not sit well except the younger folks that will buy them. No one over the age of 11 will be interested in this and this will kill this line to dismal sales
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 17:21:49 GMT -5
Looks like there will be some larger scale toys and role play toys in the line as well...   -M Saw these ones at Target the other day but I was a little disappointed that they didn't have any of the smaller ones. The 2 inch line interests me much, much more. I'm sure I'll be getting any Batman and Joker for myself and be picking up Wonder Woman for my lady. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 2:40:13 GMT -5
Finally saw these at Wallyworld on the way home from work tonight. I picked up 5 of the blind bags for the 2 inch action figures for the fun of it.
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Flash
Lex Luthor
Shadow Mission Robin
Firestorm (x2)
so have an extra Firestorm (and some extra stuff from the JL Action/Super-Hero Girls Happy Meals toys too) if anyone is looking for trades or such.
They're small, and come in 4 pieces so you have to assemble them. Overall I like the Imaginext blind bag figures better (but thy are more expensive) but these are cool for what they are.
I looked at some of the larger scale stuff but wasn't in the mood to spend the money on it tonight, (they didn't have the big Flash which might have gotten me to pull the trigger), but I might get some later.
-M
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Post by String on Feb 9, 2017 11:27:17 GMT -5
I keep forgetting this cartoon is airing. I saw the premiere episodes, yeah, aimed at younger viewers but with Conroy as Batman, some nice humor and some great action, I quite liked it actually.
A 2 inch figure line? I'm in, these figures look good and they'd be a good match against my Marvel Superhero Squad figures. I can already envision a Justice League vs. Avengers pose display.
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Post by String on Feb 9, 2017 11:33:51 GMT -5
I think it is also due to toy costs/price points. Toy buying has gotten ridiculously priced and with variations of all the same big name selllers: how many versions of Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Iron Man and such do you really want/need? Buy a 12 inch collectible single figure and its $20-25. A 6 inch single figure is $12-16. Now a 2 inch is $8-10 and only in a 3 pack so they can "tell" you it is more figure for your dollars. It is all about making the sale. And anymore it isn't kids that are asking for the figures, it is mostly the collectors they aim for. This reminds me of a recent incident I saw. While grocery shopping at my local store, I saw a mother with her son riding in the seat of the cart. The young boy had a large Iron Man figure, maybe the 12 inch variety, I'm not sure but this figure was huge compared against the size of the boy. He was playing with it, swishing it around like it was 'flying' but it looked more like the kid was wielding this figure as a club. The mother, trying to look through the store's sales paper, was getting frustrated with this and the noises the boy was making along with it. Finally, she grumbled to him, either stop or she's taking Iron Man away from him. I'm not sure which was more startling/impressive, the figure this young pup was playing with or that mom knew that was Iron Man. |
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