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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 18:31:50 GMT -5
I may be wrong...but I thought an inker was the credit used for tight pencils. Embellisher for loose pencils. Finished art for pencils done only as layouts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 18:51:03 GMT -5
I may be wrong...but I thought an inker was the credit used for tight pencils. Embellisher for loose pencils. Finished art for pencils done only as layouts. That's the guideline/norm but it's not always accurate. Sometime artist's ego or demands (or contracts) change how things are credited when an editor gives in to a demand for a credit that is different or is required to by means of a contract. Sometimes editors fiddle with it to make potential customers think a fan favorite did more than they actually did to try to boost sales. What you see in the credit box is not always reflective of what the actual division of labor that got the page made, and since many freelancers are at will hires in addition to work for hire and depend on the editor to get their pay voucher, they would go along with it as long as they continued to get work. -M |
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Post by Randle-El on Jan 4, 2017 0:53:27 GMT -5
Neal Adams is probably my favourite inker. I don't know how he does it, but everything he inks instantly becomes more life-like and realistic; it's as if he captures light and shadow with his brush and tells them what to do. What are your thoughts on the "remastered" versions of his old work? |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 4, 2017 5:49:50 GMT -5
Neal Adams is probably my favourite inker. I don't know how he does it, but everything he inks instantly becomes more life-like and realistic; it's as if he captures light and shadow with his brush and tells them what to do. What are your thoughts on the "remastered" versions of his old work? Alas, I've not seen any of it. Did Neal pull a Remastered Star Wars on us? |
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Post by Ozymandias on Jan 4, 2017 6:35:55 GMT -5
I thought an inker was the credit used for tight pencils. In the spirit of that guideline, #1 for me was Al Milgrom. He inked Starlin, Simonson, Golden, Romita Jr. ... he never messed up their respective styles. |
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Post by Confessor on Jan 4, 2017 9:47:04 GMT -5
I thought an inker was the credit used for tight pencils. In the spirit of that guideline, #1 for me was Al Milgrom. He inked Starlin, Simonson, Golden, Romita Jr. ... he never messed up their respective styles. I'm not sure I'd call Milgrom #1, but I do think that he's a vastly underrated artist -- particularly his inking. There's not much love for the man in this forum, but I think his work is generally really good and particularly high quality in those early '80s issues of Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man that he did with Ed Hannigan. |
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Post by brutalis on Jan 4, 2017 10:02:48 GMT -5
In the spirit of that guideline, #1 for me was Al Milgrom. He inked Starlin, Simonson, Golden, Romita Jr. ... he never messed up their respective styles. I'm not sure I'd call Milgrom #1, but I do think that he's a vastly underrated artist -- particularly his inking. There's not much love for the man in this forum, but I think his work is generally really good and particularly high quality in those early '80s issues of Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man that he did with Ed Hannigan. I can agree with this, early Milgrom had a smoother inking style which meshed well with other pencil artists and i think as he grew and learned more and became more confident in his own lines he subtly changed in his inking style. I always like Milgrom ink or penciling as he captures a grittier or darker Ditko kind of style in his later work. And lets not forget Milgrom does an excellent job of inking in the Archie school of hiding your inks under the brand house style. |
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Post by Randle-El on Jan 4, 2017 10:14:44 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the "remastered" versions of his old work? Alas, I've not seen any of it. Did Neal pull a Remastered Star Wars on us? In some of the recent trade collections of his work, the artwork has been touched up quite a bit. The Neal Adams Batman collections have recolored all the original artwork to modern computer coloring, which is the obvious change. But some of the linework looks to have been digitally re-inked. I'll have to search to see if I can find some comparison images online and post them later, as I don't have any of the original Adams issues myself. |
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Post by Randle-El on Jan 4, 2017 10:19:36 GMT -5
Alas, I've not seen any of it. Did Neal pull a Remastered Star Wars on us? In some of the recent trade collections of his work, the artwork has been touched up quite a bit. The Neal Adams Batman collections have recolored all the original artwork to modern computer coloring, which is the obvious change. But some of the linework looks to have been digitally re-inked. I'll have to search to see if I can find some comparison images online and post them later, as I don't have any of the original Adams issues myself. Some examples of the changes here: www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22545&PN=0&TPN=3 |
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Post by MDG on Jan 4, 2017 10:55:47 GMT -5
What's odd is nothing seems an "improvement," just "different." Did he ink the originals as well? Seeing those panels with Jimmy reminded me of how ill-suited Adams' hyper-realistic style was for a couple of those World's Finest stories he did. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 12:55:54 GMT -5
I always thought anything inked by Murphy Anderson looked classy and elegant. Other inkers I like are Dick Giordano and Terry Austin. I loved it when Nick Cardy inked his own work. Neal Adams as well. Don Heck's work always looked good when he did both pencils and inks (to me at least).
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Post by brutalis on Jan 4, 2017 13:06:21 GMT -5
I always thought anything inked by Murphy Anderson looked classy and elegant. Other inkers I like are Dick Giordano and Terry Austin. I loved it when Nick Cardy inked his own work. Neal Adams as well. Don Heck's work always looked good when he did both pencils and inks (to me at least). Hear you loud and clear on Cardy and Heck inking themselves. Whenever a penciler can ink themselves it is always the purest form of their style, as they know exactly what they are attempting to convey. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 4, 2017 16:23:27 GMT -5
In some of the recent trade collections of his work, the artwork has been touched up quite a bit. The Neal Adams Batman collections have recolored all the original artwork to modern computer coloring, which is the obvious change. But some of the linework looks to have been digitally re-inked. I'll have to search to see if I can find some comparison images online and post them later, as I don't have any of the original Adams issues myself. Some examples of the changes here: www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22545&PN=0&TPN=3Oy... Not a fan of the new colouring. (In fact I suspect I'd prefer to see Neal's work in black and white!) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 17:55:25 GMT -5
Oy... Not a fan of the new colouring. No, it's way too bright and 'modern'... I wouldn't be a fan of it either. |
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Post by Ozymandias on Jan 5, 2017 1:39:34 GMT -5
In the spirit of that guideline, #1 for me was Al Milgrom. He inked Starlin, Simonson, Golden, Romita Jr. ... he never messed up their respective styles. I'm not sure I'd call Milgrom #1, but I do think that he's a vastly underrated artist -- particularly his inking. There's not much love for the man in this forum, but I think his work is generally really good and particularly high quality in those early '80s issues of Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man that he did with Ed Hannigan. The problem with Hannigan is, I don't know his style well enough, to determine whether Milgrom altered it one way or another. |
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