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Post by Icctrombone on May 17, 2017 5:13:06 GMT -5
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Post by brutalis on May 17, 2017 7:58:28 GMT -5
some scary stuff there proving once again criminals are despicable. Holding hospital's electronically for ransom playing with people's lives. Truly revolting. As far as the comic aspect goes, i don't do any digital only purchases except for my Kindle and then i immediately copy them onto a jump/thumb drive and load them onto a computer i have at home that IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET for just such reasons. I use that computer for files and word/excel tracking and other such uses for personal and business use. I have worked with computers long enough to know that you ALWAYS create duplicate/back ups for any and all emergencies. You have spare car keys? You have spare house keys? You have more than one pair of underwear? Why wouldn't you have back ups and or separate computer/data/etc? If i used a computer at home for internet it would be simply for that. Anything important i would NOT have on that computer. Accounts and other such stuff? Place it on a jump drive and plug in to access your bills/etc and then disconnect. Protect your valuables in every way!
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Post by Icctrombone on May 17, 2017 8:03:15 GMT -5
I never thought of having a computer just for files and not connected to the net. Awesome idea.
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Post by badwolf on May 17, 2017 9:43:36 GMT -5
I just can't get into reading anything digitally, comics or books. I don't like holding a mobile device for an extended period of time and it's hard on the eyes.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 17, 2017 11:12:38 GMT -5
It's another option to read comics. I read about 40 percent that way. Just for reading though. I don't think you can ever really own a digital anything.
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Post by hondobrode on May 17, 2017 16:19:23 GMT -5
You can download and use it indefinitely.
If something happens, say a virus, and you "lose" everything, it's still on the seller's server and you download it again.
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Post by bran on May 20, 2017 14:52:12 GMT -5
We are in a true golden age where you can find almost whatever comic you could dream of when before the limit was how far would you drive or bicycle in your city? Now comic book buying has few limits since you can by from tons of Internet Stores and comic sites. I completely agree with you, distribution is the king. Mind you the output is amazing as well, which reflects increasing demand (historians will probably say it all started round around 2005 or so), and is still going strong. What is currently referred to as "Golden Age" wasn't even close. Also, some old comics aged really well and you can purchase restored and collected/sorted digital versions for decent amount. Don't know which Phantom you bought but AFAIK Falk/Moore run (concluding with The Inexorables) aged exceptionally well. It has all the exuberance of Pulp-era, spirit of adventure, great art, pre-code romance (not explicit but obviously adult), diverse characters, and 1930s written all over it.
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Post by urrutiap on May 20, 2017 16:16:58 GMT -5
Well not every comic especially old western cowboy comic books can be found anymore these days.
Especially the Wyatt Earp comics
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 23:18:58 GMT -5
Let me tell you one thing I HATE about collecting today and its the whole professional comic book grading thing. You know, CGC and all of those guys.
If I buy a comic book, I want to be able to read it. I want to be able to take it out, smell it, touch it and just experience it. I loathe those darn plastic things the "professionals" lock them in now days. And besides making them unreadable, they don't fit in comic boxes and they take up at least five time more space and weight. Does my head in!
Also, they have created this artificially inflated market for M/NM books. Sometimes the price difference between a 9.2 and a 9.5 can be staggering! Some times 100% or more difference in price? Really? SMH
And, the whole thing is so subjective. What one person may call a 9.8 may be a 9.4 to someone else. To prove this, I was at a con not to long ago and had two copies of an identical title and had them "professorially graded" (which isn't free!). When I was done one was a 9.0 and the other was a 8.5. When I got them back I went to another room and removed them from the holders. I then had two different mates take one each to get them graded again. One came back as a 9.5 the other an 8.0! Crazy yea?
I don't know, it just rubs me the wrong way. What do you guys think?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 0:15:17 GMT -5
Let me tell you one thing I HATE about collecting today and its the whole professional comic book grading thing. You know, CGC and all of those guys. If I buy a comic book, I want to be able to read it. I want to be able to take it out, smell it, touch it and just experience it. I loathe those darn plastic things the "professionals" lock them in now days. And besides making them unreadable, they don't fit in comic boxes and they take up at least five time more space and weight. Does my head in! Also, they have created this artificially inflated market for M/NM books. Sometimes the price difference between a 9.2 and a 9.5 can be staggering! Some times 100% or more difference in price? Really? SMH And, the whole thing is so subjective. What one person may call a 9.8 may be a 9.4 to someone else. To prove this, I was at a con not to long ago and had two copies of an identical title and had them "professorially graded" (which isn't free!). When I was done one was a 9.0 and the other was a 8.5. When I got them back I went to another room and removed them from the holders. I then had two different mates take one each to get them graded again. One came back as a 9.5 the other an 8.0! Crazy yea? I don't know, it just rubs me the wrong way. What do you guys think? This has been a hot button topic here before. It's led to some bad blood and a few people deleting their accounts. It's not my thing, but there are folks here who like it, especially when they are buying books online without physically seeing the book except for pictures. It comes down to preference and comfort level for each individual. There is no one right way or wrong way to collect comics. Each person has to do what's right for them. Personally I am not going to shell out the money to get a book graded or pay extra for a graded book, but if someone wants to do it, it's their money and their book to do what they want with it. As long as their happy with it (and the seller is happy with it), who am I to gainsay them the way they want to acquire comics. -M
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 1:04:23 GMT -5
Let me tell you one thing I HATE about collecting today and its the whole professional comic book grading thing. You know, CGC and all of those guys. If I buy a comic book, I want to be able to read it. I want to be able to take it out, smell it, touch it and just experience it. I loathe those darn plastic things the "professionals" lock them in now days. And besides making them unreadable, they don't fit in comic boxes and they take up at least five time more space and weight. Does my head in! Also, they have created this artificially inflated market for M/NM books. Sometimes the price difference between a 9.2 and a 9.5 can be staggering! Some times 100% or more difference in price? Really? SMH And, the whole thing is so subjective. What one person may call a 9.8 may be a 9.4 to someone else. To prove this, I was at a con not to long ago and had two copies of an identical title and had them "professorially graded" (which isn't free!). When I was done one was a 9.0 and the other was a 8.5. When I got them back I went to another room and removed them from the holders. I then had two different mates take one each to get them graded again. One came back as a 9.5 the other an 8.0! Crazy yea? I don't know, it just rubs me the wrong way. What do you guys think? This has been a hot button topic here before. It's led to some bad blood and a few people deleting their accounts. It's not my thing, but there are folks here who like it, especially when they are buying books online without physically seeing the book except for pictures. It comes down to preference and comfort level for each individual. There is no one right way or wrong way to collect comics. Each person has to do what's right for them. Personally I am not going to shell out the money to get a book graded or pay extra for a graded book, but if someone wants to do it, it's their money and their book to do what they want with it. As long as their happy with it (and the seller is happy with it), who am I to gainsay them the way they want to acquire comics. -M Oh I agree, I just won't buy them myself either. Just the storage of them becomes an issue when you have as many books as I do plus as I buy them for pleasure only (not for an investment) for me buying a NM or F doesn't really matter. As long as I can read it and it's complete with no tears, issues whatever, I'd rather spend less on the lower grade anyway. That way, if I damage it by accident I am not ruining a NM book. But it does become an issue when I want to buy a rare or scarce book at auction because almost all of them now days are graded that way. I have purchased some in the past and discarded the container but it feels wasteful doing that. Thank goodness the internet has made buying most back issues easier even if I have to go down a grade or two to get what I want.
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Post by batusi on Aug 18, 2017 5:48:42 GMT -5
I bought one digital Comic ( Batman #251, the Joker story). I only got it that way because it was too pricey to get the physical copy. Digital is great for reading, but not much else IMHO. I don't think you can "own" a digital copy of anything. That's funny because the only digital comic I purchased was also Batman #251. This was my test run and I did not purchase any other comics because you cannot download to your desktop or read offline... If I have no control I do not feel it is justified or worth spending my money on. I do however have a large collection of digital comics I obtained from torrent sites, but before you lecture me on piracy keep in mind that due to obtaining these digital copies it has inspired me to buy several hundred back issues and collected editions which I would't have done if it Weren't for digital making me want physical media as well. In fact before digital came along I had stopped collecting for close to 15 years.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 18, 2017 7:58:17 GMT -5
That's interesting, I guess that downloading the torrents was like borrowing books from the library.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Aug 19, 2017 14:12:39 GMT -5
But it does become an issue when I want to buy a rare or scarce book at auction because almost all of them now days are graded that way. I have purchased some in the past and discarded the container but it feels wasteful doing that. Just curious. Which rare/scarce books are you seeking that are difficult to find in raw form. I have a couple of sources for non-graded books outside an auction setting that may be useful to you. Honestly, unless you're in the market for a high-grade Suspense #3 or More Fun #52, the options have never been more numerous. It's entirely possible to collect mid to high grade Golden Age books without ever wrangling with a container. If you are knowledgeable about accepted grading practices and have a keen eye (I famously possess neither), you can navigate your way to some real bargains. If you are in the market for Suspense #3 or More Fun #52, then I applaud you and apologize for wasting your time. I agree that paying a premium for a graded book and then discarding the container (and the "grade") is counter-productive.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 19, 2017 19:41:09 GMT -5
Yeah. I have bought graded books, but I'll pay about 10 dollars less if I have to deal with those stupid wrapper things.
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