Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Jul 8, 2024 14:32:33 GMT -5
You know, the album I was sure in my head was a '64 album, but which turned out to be a 1963 album, was The Everly Brothers Sing Great Country Hits. That's a cracking record, but alas, it's not eligible.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 8, 2024 17:26:33 GMT -5
I've got my ten. I do have to re-listen to two of them to decide where to slot them in. So let me know when we want to start.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 8, 2024 18:56:01 GMT -5
I've got my ten. I do have to re-listen to two of them to decide where to slot them in. So let me know when we want to start. Yeah, I need to re-listen to 2 or 3 albums as well for the same reason. Shall we say start on Weds? I am super busy gigging on Thurs and Friday though, so I might be a bit sporadic with my posts on those days, but I can always catch up. I should be ready to start by Weds, regardless.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 8, 2024 20:49:35 GMT -5
I've got my ten. I do have to re-listen to two of them to decide where to slot them in. So let me know when we want to start. Yeah, I need to re-listen to 2 or 3 albums as well for the same reason. Shall we say start on Weds? I am super busy gigging on Thurs and Friday though, so I might be a bit sporadic with my posts on those days, but I can always catch up. I should be ready to start by Weds, regardless. Sounds spiffy.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 9, 2024 13:37:43 GMT -5
So in preparation for tomorrow's start, I want to talk about why there won't be any pure jazz albums on my list. And it ain't because I don't love jazz (though I don't listen to as much jazz as I did, say, 20-25 years ago). First, with some exceptions, I find it hard to rank my enjoyment of jazz albums. Throw in other genres of music and it gets that much harder. Second, I love this era of jazz a lot and I'd end up with far too many albums to really be able to make decisions. So, jazz albums from 1964 that would have required serious consideration;
Count Basie: Basie Land
John Coltrane: Coltrane's Sound
John Coltrane: Crescent
John Coltrane: Live at Birdland
Eric Dolphy: Out to Lunch!
Herbie Hancock: Empyrean Isles
Joe Henderson: Our Thing
Freddie Hubbard: Breaking Point
Lee Morgan: The Sidewinder
Oscar Peterson: Trio + One
Thelonious Monk: It's Monk's Time
Wayne Shorter: JuJu
And I'm sure I've missed some.
Except, upon further review, my most listened to album of 1964 is a jazz album. So I'm going to include it. Sigh.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 9, 2024 15:10:49 GMT -5
Except, upon further review, my most listened to album of 1964 is a jazz album. So I'm going to include it. Sigh. There'll be one jazz album in my Top 10, but it's not one you've mentioned. During my final ordering it looks like the one and only bluegrass album that I shortlisted might not make the cut after all.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 9, 2024 15:16:01 GMT -5
Except, upon further review, my most listened to album of 1964 is a jazz album. So I'm going to include it. Sigh. There'll be one jazz album in my Top 10, but it's not one you've mentioned. During my final ordering it looks like the one and only bluegrass album that I shortlisted might not make the cut after all. I scrupulously didn't mention the jazz album that will be there. No bluegrass for me. And only one pure folk album.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 16:50:51 GMT -5
Mind if I join the 1964 discussion? I put together my list, it was a lot of fun (and a bit challenging!).
Mine are actually mostly jazz, though only one shows up on the list you made Slam. Some are a little more obscure, I'd be curious if others have heard them. I do have one artist who made the list twice as well.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 9, 2024 16:52:35 GMT -5
Mind if I join the 1964 discussion? I put together my list, it was a lot of fun (and a bit challenging!). Mine are actually mostly jazz, though only one shows up on the list you made Slam. Some are a little more obscure, I'd be curious if others have heard them. I do have one artist who made the list twice as well. The more the merrier.
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Post by berkley on Jul 9, 2024 16:56:07 GMT -5
Except, upon further review, my most listened to album of 1964 is a jazz album. So I'm going to include it. Sigh. There'll be one jazz album in my Top 10, but it's not one you've mentioned. During my final ordering it looks like the one and only bluegrass album that I shortlisted might not make the cut after all.
There would have been two jazz albums on mine, and I think both were sort of "cross-over" hits and thus pretty well-known to people like me who are relatively ignorant when it comes to jazz, so I think there's a good chance one or both will turn up on someone's list. If they don't, I'll mention them later.
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Post by berkley on Jul 9, 2024 17:05:15 GMT -5
Mind if I join the 1964 discussion? I put together my list, it was a lot of fun (and a bit challenging!). Mine are actually mostly jazz, though only one shows up on the list you made Slam. Some are a little more obscure, I'd be curious if others have heard them. I do have one artist who made the list twice as well.
I wouldn't be much of a participant but I'd be a very interested reader/learner if you, Slam, and any other jazz listeners ever decided to do some jazz-related lists of this kind - best of year/decade or what have you. My knowledge is very patchy and lately when it comes to jazz I've been mostly listening to vocal music from the 1950s - some of which might be considered pop as much as jazz..
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 9, 2024 17:12:51 GMT -5
The inclusion of my one jazz pick, and it had to be included as it's easily the 1964 album I've listened to the most, has put me in a quandary about the 10 spot. I guess we'll see how I feel tomorrow morning.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 9, 2024 19:43:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't be much of a participant but I'd be a very interested reader/learner if you, Slam, and any other jazz listeners ever decided to do some jazz-related lists of this kind - best of year/decade or what have you. My knowledge is very patchy and lately when it comes to jazz I've been mostly listening to vocal music from the 1950s - some of which might be considered pop as much as jazz. I like Jazz a lot, but I'm very specific about which sub-genres of jazz do it for me. I don't mind the Bebop of the 1940s and '50s (Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonious Monk etc) or more straight ahead jazz of that period, such as Cab Calloway, Louise Armstrong etc, or even a little bit of British Trad Jazz, like Acker Bilk or Chris Barber. But the two sub-genres I really, really like are late '50s/early '60s Cool Jazz (The Dave Brubeck Quartet, Miles Davis, Charles Mingus, Gerry Mulligan etc), or late '60s/early '70s Jazz Funk (Gil Scott-Heron, Herbie Hancock, Donald Byrd etc). I also dig mid-60s Latin Jazz/Bossa Nova stuff (Astrud Gilberto, Sergio Mendez & Basil 66, Jose Feliciano, Getz/Gilberto etc), but some jazz fans can be a bit snooty about whether that stuff can really be called jazz. I think some of it absolutely is. But anyway, I could definitely get on board with a general Top 10 favourite Jazz albums theme somewhere down the line. I think there'd be a lot to learn from other people's picks.
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Post by berkley on Jul 9, 2024 23:56:35 GMT -5
I wouldn't be much of a participant but I'd be a very interested reader/learner if you, Slam, and any other jazz listeners ever decided to do some jazz-related lists of this kind - best of year/decade or what have you. My knowledge is very patchy and lately when it comes to jazz I've been mostly listening to vocal music from the 1950s - some of which might be considered pop as much as jazz. I like Jazz a lot, but I'm very specific about which sub-genres of jazz do it for me. I don't mind the Bebop of the 1940s and '50s (Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonious Monk etc) or more straight ahead jazz of that period, such as Cab Calloway, Louise Armstrong etc, or even a little bit of British Trad Jazz, like Acker Bilk or Chris Barber. But the two sub-genres I really, really like are late '50s/early '60s Cool Jazz (The Dave Brubeck Quartet, Miles Davis, Charles Mingus, Gerry Mulligan etc), or late '60s/early '70s Jazz Funk (Gil Scott-Heron, Herbie Hancock, Donald Byrd etc). I also dig mid-60s Latin Jazz/Bossa Nova stuff (Astrud Gilberto, Sergio Mendez & Basil 66, Jose Feliciano, Getz/Gilberto etc), but some jazz fans can be a bit snooty about whether that stuff can really be called jazz. I think some of it absolutely is. But anyway, I could definitely get on board with a general Top 10 favourite Jazz albums theme somewhere down the line. I think there'd be a lot to learn from other people's picks.
Yeah, I think that would be a cool idea and I would definitely learn a lot, as I do in the more general or pop-oriented lists, for that matter - I especially look forward to seeing what people are going to come up with for 1964, a year from which I haven't done a lot of specific album-listening myself, apart from a few of the more obvious things like those I mentioned a few posts or pages back. And I wouldn't want the thought of later on doing jazz favorites to stop anyone from including jazz albums in their general top ten lists - or soundtracks, traditional, classical, etc.
I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't go through my cds and try to dig out all the jazz ones to see what I have. I recognise many of the names you mentioned (BTW, one of them has a 1964 album I would include in my list), though certainly not all, and i know I have cds by at least a few of them -like many people, I have the habit of picking things up with the idea of getting to them at some later date and then forgetting exactly what it is I do already have.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 10, 2024 9:45:50 GMT -5
Because nobody asked for it....
Favorite albums of 1964
#10 - Count Basie and Frank Sinatra - It Might as Well Be Swing
The second, and arguably better, team-up between the two musical icons. This is a well structured and thoroughly swingin' affair. Basie added a string section to his band for the album. The arrangements and conduction by Quincy Jones are beyond reproach. And Sinatra is singing as well as he had since the mid-50s. This is very much a swing album. It's not overtly jazzy, though Basie and Sinatra play a bit with the beat and the melody. The songs selected were all fairly new at the time, most less than ten years old. And that may have harmed the album just a tad. The song selection is occasionally brilliant, but not universally so. But it does give us a couple of absolute all-timers. It's been estimated that "Fly Me to the Moon" had been covered nearly 100 times before this version. It had never been done better and never would be again. The same may well be true of "The Best is Yet to Come." This album just screams of the sophistication and polish of that was rapidly coming to an end by 1964, what with those screaming kids with their mop-tops. But Franky and The Count were the epitome of style.
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