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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 7:32:26 GMT -5
Anybody else have preferred "song orders" for certain artists that vary from the original albums? It's not quite what you're asking, I don't think Supercat, but I have a real problem with the track sequencing on Michael Jackson's Thriller, and pretty much have done since the day I got my first copy of it back in 1983. Obviously, as all sensible folk know, it's a tremendous album, with nine awesome tracks that are all killer, no filler. But...those tracks are in a really "clunky" running order that doesn't flow particularly well IMHO. As soon as I got a ghetto blaster twin-tape deck for my birthday in 1986, I was able to connect my record player up to it and compile a cassette with the album arranged in my ideal running order. These days, I have a CD-R compilation of my version of the album and it is still my preferred way to listen to it. Michael and Quincy Jones did a pretty good job, I suppose, but they really shoulda phoned 10-year-old me up in 1982 and got me to sort out the running order for Thriller. Just imagine what a success it might've been if they'd only involved me! 😂 Oh yeah, that's a great additional and related topic. Totally can relate, I still load all my physical media into old school iTunes and customize album song sequences just like you're describing. Can't stand a weak lead-off song, or too many ballads bunched up together, or just a flat out clunky order for whatever reason. Sometimes I even take a song off, like there's a Metallica EP that's otherwise a favorite but there's one song that they cover from a punk band where the lyrics cross the line for me (and it takes a LOT for me to get that offended). I'm much happier with it deleted. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 7:42:57 GMT -5
I have a question that goes back to the favorite box sets discussion Slam_Bradley , Confessor , and I engaged in recently, but definitely goes out to anyone interested and with a viewpoint to share. There are some artists where I originally listed to their works more in a greatest hits or box set format, and in some cases I listened to them extensively before buying the original albums. Beatles Red and Blue collections and Led Zeppelin's 1990 box set as examples. It occurred to me that my brain still thinks of the proper "sequence" of songs in some cases more on the greatest hits ordering. Like Zeppelin's "Heartbreaker" must be immediately followed by "Communication Breakdown" even though they were originally on different albums. I can still fully appreciate the original albums of course, but at times, I think I pick my earlier collections to listen to because I still like those specific song orders. Anybody else have preferred "song orders" for certain artists that vary from the original albums? Conversely, I feel like one of the biggest bits of musical blue balls I've experienced is hearing Heartbreaker on the radio and it not being IMMEDIATELY followed by Living Living Maid. The betrayal. Also Queen's We Will Rock You and We Are the Champions. Though frankly, I don't listen to any of these much anymore due to how many times I've already heard them. Funny how our minds get trained that way, right? Yeah, there's some old stuff I've heard so many times it's literally years now before I get back to some of it. But sometimes that mood just hits you. I was listening to a more modern Ace Frehley album last night where he does old covers and it sounds great, the production is fantastic and he can still record a great album. So his cover of "Spanish Castle Magic" comes on, and it's such a killer track, I'm like, let's head back to Jimi and hear the original. Next thing I know, 3 hours go by and I'm listening to full albums of Hendrix, The Doors, and Captain Beyond. That stuff all holds up for me so well, it's almost like I need to remember to NOT forget the classics sometimes, even if I "think" I'm bored of it. Usually once I start, I'm hooked all over again. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 8:01:49 GMT -5
This is just awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 16:44:43 GMT -5
So if folks will forgive me one more gear post, pretty much my dream electric guitar popped up, another Gibson Les Paul but in my favorite finish "tobacco burst". It's a new guitar but built as a custom shop one-off in the style of a 70's Les Paul Custom, and it's just amazing. Much KISS will be played on this tonight!  |
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Post by tartanphantom on Sept 22, 2024 20:11:16 GMT -5
So if folks will forgive me one more gear post, pretty much my dream electric guitar popped up, another Gibson Les Paul but in my favorite finish "tobacco burst". It's a new guitar but built as a custom shop one-off in the style of a 70's Les Paul Custom, and it's just amazing. Much KISS will be played on this tonight!
70's Les Paul weight too? If not, then it ain't legit! 
Much like yourself, I too prefer the tobacco or "antique burst" over the cherry burst any day of the week.
Between the last guitar and this one, I hope you've got your rent paid up in advance-- You've dropped a bit of pocket change between the two.
It's funny that you posted this, because in today's Zoom meeting I was going on and on about one of my guitars that hadn't been uncased in quite a long time. I have three different Squier '51 models from the original run (2004-2006), and my favorite of the three has always been the burst finish model. It was the first one that I bought, and I tweaked it and modded the electronics, but last time I plugged it in many years ago, It had a ground-related buzz (or so I thought), and so I cased it with the intention of getting around to fixing the issue.
This week, I brought it out of the case, since I didn't have any gigs this weekend, thinking it would make a good project. When I plugged it in to check it, the buzz was completely gone. Pots and switches were a little scratchy/dusty from disuse, but they cleaned up quickly. Basically all I had to do was put on a new set of strings and double-check the intonation, and I was rockin' in no time flat. Time for this one to go back into the gig rotation. The Tele-style neck is to die for and is one if the most comfortable Fender necks I've ever played! Also, the controls are slightly unorthodox, as there is no tone control. Basically you have a master volume, a rotary pickup switch, and a pull-up coil tap switch for the bridge pickup. Once you learn your way around it, you forget all about needing a tone control, and you don't miss it at all. And there's something about the "Frankensteining" of a P-Bass body (and pickguard) to a Telecaster-style neck that just works. I can't explain it.
Finally dug up an old picture--
And here are pictures of the siblings--
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 20:57:33 GMT -5
So if folks will forgive me one more gear post, pretty much my dream electric guitar popped up, another Gibson Les Paul but in my favorite finish "tobacco burst". It's a new guitar but built as a custom shop one-off in the style of a 70's Les Paul Custom, and it's just amazing. Much KISS will be played on this tonight!
70's Les Paul weight too? If not, then it ain't legit!
Much like yourself, I too prefer the tobacco or "antique burst" over the cherry burst any day of the week.
Between the last guitar and this one, I hope you've got your rent paid up in advance-- You've dropped a bit of pocket change between the two.
It's funny that you posted this, because in today's Zoom meeting I was going on and on about one of my guitars that hadn't been uncased in quite a long time. I have three different Squier '51 models from the original run (2004-2006), and my favorite of the three has always been the burst finish model. It was the first one that I bought, and I tweaked it and modded the electronics, but last time I plugged it in many years ago, It had a ground-related buzz (or so I thought), and so I cased it with the intention of getting around to fixing the issue.
This week, I brought it out of the case, since I didn't have any gigs this weekend, thinking it would make a good project. When I plugged it in to check it, the buzz was completely gone. Pots and switches were a little scratchy/dusty from disuse, but they cleaned up quickly. Basically all I had to do was put on a new set of strings and double-check the intonation, and I was rockin' in no time flat. Time for this one to go back into the gig rotation. The Tele-style neck is to die for and is one if the most comfortable Fender necks I've ever played!
looking for a pic to post, but haven't been able to find it yet.
10 lbs even on this one so yeah, definitely some legit “70’s Norlin heft”. It’s funny, I like the 70’s vibe more for nostalgia. But the vintage ones have become this big “collector phenomenon” I think with somewhat younger folks and I have to chuckle, this was not a “magic age” for Gibson. There certainly were good ones of course, I had a 75 SG sunburst that was killer actually, but overall, modern stuff is consistently much better IMO. As for cost, yeah, sometimes cool gear hits all at once. Life’s short, make money and spend it on the things you really love (family stuff coming first of course). And I never buy on credit, money’s got to be in the bank on all purchases. Definitely would love to see that Squier when you find a picture! EDIT: Just saw you have the pictures up, that’s a sweet looking trio!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 21:18:42 GMT -5
Also, the controls are slightly unorthodox, as there is no tone control. Basically you have a master volume, a rotary pickup switch, and a pull-up coil tap switch for the bridge pickup. Once you learn your way around it, you forget all about needing a tone control, and you don't miss it at all. As I’m in reality an 80’s rocker as you know, we don’t even know what tones knobs are for haha. I didn’t post my other new purchase, a rather “bright looking” Charvel super strat, but one volume knob is all you get, we’re not smart enough for anything else! I kind of wish I was joking, it wasn’t all that long ago I realized dialing the tone knob back a bit on a traditional Strat made the bridge pickup play with high gain better. And I use a compressor for clean funk tones so kind of moot there. That said, I did have one guitar with a rotary pickup switch back in the day, so I actually DO totally know what you’re saying here (plus having the coil tap of course). Lot of versatility there for sure! Again, love the look of those, and neck feel really is everything at the end of the day. |
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Post by tartanphantom on Sept 22, 2024 21:38:15 GMT -5
Also, the controls are slightly unorthodox, as there is no tone control. Basically you have a master volume, a rotary pickup switch, and a pull-up coil tap switch for the bridge pickup. Once you learn your way around it, you forget all about needing a tone control, and you don't miss it at all. As I’m in reality an 80’s rocker as you know, we don’t even know what tones knobs are for haha. I didn’t post my other new purchase, a rather “bright looking” Charvel super strat, but one volume knob is all you get, we’re not smart enough for anything else! I kind of wish I was joking, it wasn’t all that long ago I realized dialing the tone knob back a bit on a traditional Strat made the bridge pickup play with high gain better. And I use a compressor for clean funk tones so kind of moot there. That said, I did have one guitar with a rotary pickup switch back in the day, so I actually DO totally know what you’re saying here (plus having the coil tap of course). Lot of versatility there for sure! Again, love the look of those, and neck feel really is everything at the end of the day.
I mentioned that I modified the wiring, so here's how the switching works--
So the burst and the black models have this mod, but the blonde model is purely stock. The biggest difference is that the stock setup doesn't have the "wired in series" (line 3, column B) option. In the stock setup, config 3A and 3B are the same (neck only). My modification is basically the equivalent of the " 4-way Tele switch" mod on a Telecaster. The result is a fat humbucker sound with a noticeable volume/gain compression boost.
It allows me to go from jangly to angry on the fly. Think "Smells Like Teen Spirit" volume dynamics (between the verse & chorus), but just by putting the selector in position 3 and just using the push-pull to switch between the contrasting sonic profiles.
Not nearly as fancy as the switching on early BC Rich guitars, for example, but still very effective and ergonomically practical onstage... and my mod don't need no stinkin' batteries either!  Did I mention that the stock bridge humbucker on these guitars is usually wound to 10-11K? So they're pretty hot by themselves. the coil tap tames the to match better with the neck pickup. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2024 21:53:36 GMT -5
As I’m in reality an 80’s rocker as you know, we don’t even know what tones knobs are for haha. I didn’t post my other new purchase, a rather “bright looking” Charvel super strat, but one volume knob is all you get, we’re not smart enough for anything else! I kind of wish I was joking, it wasn’t all that long ago I realized dialing the tone knob back a bit on a traditional Strat made the bridge pickup play with high gain better. And I use a compressor for clean funk tones so kind of moot there. That said, I did have one guitar with a rotary pickup switch back in the day, so I actually DO totally know what you’re saying here (plus having the coil tap of course). Lot of versatility there for sure! Again, love the look of those, and neck feel really is everything at the end of the day.
I mentioned that I modified the wiring, so here's how the switching works--
So the burst and the black models have this mod, but the blonde model is purely stock. The biggest difference is that the stock setup doesn't have the "wired in series" (line 3, column B) option. In the stock setup, config 3A and 3B are the same (neck only). My modification is basically the equivalent of the " 4-way Tele switch" mod on a Telecaster. The result is a fat humbucker sound with a noticeable volume/gain compression boost.
It allows me to go from jangly to angry on the fly. Think "Smells Like Teen Spirit" volume dynamics (between the verse & chorus), but just by putting the selector in position 3 and just using the push-pull to switch between the contrasting sonic profiles.
Not nearly as fancy as the switching on early BC Rich guitars, for example, but still very effective and ergonomically practical onstage... and my mod don't need no stinkin' batteries either! Totally tracking with you on that, yeah, I like that configuration! I’m going to start calling you “Dan Erlewine”, you’ve definitely got the tech skills Can also relate to your example with BC Rich, I had a lovely late 70’s Eagle but couldn’t figure out the electronics to save my life! |
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Post by impulse on Sept 23, 2024 8:44:17 GMT -5
Funny how our minds get trained that way, right? Yeah, there's some old stuff I've heard so many times it's literally years now before I get back to some of it. But sometimes that mood just hits you. I was listening to a more modern Ace Frehley album last night where he does old covers and it sounds great, the production is fantastic and he can still record a great album. So his cover of "Spanish Castle Magic" comes on, and it's such a killer track, I'm like, let's head back to Jimi and hear the original. Next thing I know, 3 hours go by and I'm listening to full albums of Hendrix, The Doors, and Captain Beyond. That stuff all holds up for me so well, it's almost like I need to remember to NOT forget the classics sometimes, even if I "think" I'm bored of it. Usually once I start, I'm hooked all over again. Hoooooly CRAP, I found someone else in the wild who knows Captain Beyond?! Very cool, very underrated band. Though I'm not shocked now that I think about it. They are one of those groups that the general public isn't aware of, but musicians and industry folks know them. Very cool! They are a whole conversation on their own, so I will leave that here. I know what you mean about mood cancelling out being sick of something. It's similar to "I'm not looking for a relationship" until you find someone you want one with LOL. And BEAUTIFUL guitar. I'd love a vintage LP if and when money, time and space are no barriers. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2024 8:58:19 GMT -5
Funny how our minds get trained that way, right? Yeah, there's some old stuff I've heard so many times it's literally years now before I get back to some of it. But sometimes that mood just hits you. I was listening to a more modern Ace Frehley album last night where he does old covers and it sounds great, the production is fantastic and he can still record a great album. So his cover of "Spanish Castle Magic" comes on, and it's such a killer track, I'm like, let's head back to Jimi and hear the original. Next thing I know, 3 hours go by and I'm listening to full albums of Hendrix, The Doors, and Captain Beyond. That stuff all holds up for me so well, it's almost like I need to remember to NOT forget the classics sometimes, even if I "think" I'm bored of it. Usually once I start, I'm hooked all over again. Hoooooly CRAP, I found someone else in the wild who knows Captain Beyond?! Very cool, very underrated band. Though I'm not shocked now that I think about it. They are one of those groups that the general public isn't aware of, but musicians and industry folks know them. Very cool! They are a whole conversation on their own, so I will leave that here. I know what you mean about mood cancelling out being sick of something. It's similar to "I'm not looking for a relationship" until you find someone you want one with LOL. And BEAUTIFUL guitar. I'd love a vintage LP if and when money, time and space are no barriers. Oh yeah, discovering Captain Beyond is a beautiful thing, isn't it? Sometimes it will be like 2 in the morning and the headphones go on and I play some CB, maybe some old Budgie, Fuzzy Duck, etc., talk about capturing a mood. Appreciate the kind words on the new guitar! Yeah, it's a ripper, lot of fun for sure. You know what's a Les Paul that actually has floored me for a fraction of the cost? The latest "1979 Epiphone Adam Jones silver burst". Not the ones with art on the back, this is much more like a real LP from that era. Pricey for an Epi, but totally next level. The neck profile actually feels like a real Gibson, actual headstock shape, real mother of pearl fretboard inlays, killer pickups with a Seymour Duncan Distortion in the bridge and a Custombucker (the ones found in the custom shop guitars) in the neck. And the one I spent some time with had great fretwork too. The tint of the silver burst gives it a nice slightly aged look too. Not to add to any temptation or anything, but just had to mention! |
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Post by tartanphantom on Sept 23, 2024 9:42:49 GMT -5
Another longtime Captain Beyond fan here as well. I've been known to "Dance Madly Backwards" on rare occasion, but usually completely unintentionally.
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Post by impulse on Sept 23, 2024 9:55:46 GMT -5
I think the sea of air is the side effects of the pre-show festivities back in the 70s. The band is still active in spurts with founding member drummer Bobby Caldwell as the only current original member. I saw them on tour several years ago now. Mostly new members, but they lived up to the material. I met the band, too, which was cool. Very nice guys.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 24, 2024 13:36:05 GMT -5
Another Captain Beyond fan here. I think I discovered them shortly after their 1973 album Sufficiently Breathless was released. Guessing it's sales were disappointing because I found the albums shortly later dumped into the $1.99 bins, the final fate for overstocked LPs. Back then I'd flip thru those bins for hidden treasures and this was one of my favorite finds. I really wore out side 1 for the amount of times I played it
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Post by impulse on Sept 24, 2024 15:05:16 GMT -5
I don't know what the odds are of 4 people not only knowing but liking such an obscure band in 2024 congregating on the same thread on the same forum, but I think I should buy a lottery ticket.
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Did I mention that the stock bridge humbucker on these guitars is usually wound to 10-11K? So they're pretty hot by themselves. the coil tap tames the to match better with the neck pickup. 
