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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 14, 2017 18:07:42 GMT -5
Just to clarify: the original Sunday supplement series ended around '52. There were a couple of Harvey issues in the '60s that were all (or mainly) reprints; ditto the two "underground" issues from '74 or so. There was also the Spirit tabloid around the same time, but it's not like Eisner was writing a lot of Spirit stories after the 40s. (I think he started to hand more and more over to his studio around 1950.) I know the Warren Mag boasted new Eisner content, but I never actually read them. One day... To my knowledge it was all reprints. The covers were probably the only new Spirit material. If any new Spirit stories appeared, there wasn't more than one or two |
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 14, 2017 22:09:43 GMT -5
Warren published The Will Eisner Reader, which had new content. (not the Spirit though)
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 14, 2017 22:52:32 GMT -5
Warren published The Will Eisner Reader, which had new content. (not the Spirit though) That would be Kitchen Sink Press, not Warren. It was material already published from their Will Eisner Quarterly magazine |
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 14, 2017 23:40:28 GMT -5
Oh, that's right. And I have all those mags  |
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 15, 2017 2:17:57 GMT -5
Just to clarify: the original Sunday supplement series ended around '52. There were a couple of Harvey issues in the '60s that were all (or mainly) reprints; ditto the two "underground" issues from '74 or so. There was also the Spirit tabloid around the same time, but it's not like Eisner was writing a lot of Spirit stories after the 40s. (I think he started to hand more and more over to his studio around 1950.) I know the Warren Mag boasted new Eisner content, but I never actually read them. One day... I had a few of the actual magazines and now have the whole run on digital; there were new covers (much of the art would turn up in Will Eisner Color Treasury). I'd have to go digging; but, I don't recall any new stories, though I think there may have been notes and spot illustrations. |
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Post by MDG on Feb 15, 2017 8:11:45 GMT -5
I know the Warren Mag boasted new Eisner content, but I never actually read them. One day... I had a few of the actual magazines and now have the whole run on digital; there were new covers (much of the art would turn up in Will Eisner Color Treasury). I'd have to go digging; but, I don't recall any new stories, though I think there may have been notes and spot illustrations. The new stuff appeared when Kitchen Sink took over, but no new Spirit stories. Except for the Jam issue.  |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 15, 2017 8:23:51 GMT -5
Eisner was moving away from hands on involvement with The Spirit, and just overseeing it's production as far back as the late 1940's, years before it was discontinued in Oct. 1952. Jules Feiffer was writing most of the last few years, Jerry Grandenetti, Al Wenzel, Wally Wood and Jim Dixon providing art
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 15, 2017 8:51:55 GMT -5
Though Eisner did do a new story for each of the two Harvey Spirit Co,ics that came out in the 60s.   |
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 15, 2017 11:44:31 GMT -5
Interesting, it's the only Epic Collection I wasn't able to finish, I just found it way too dull. I'll set an alarm for 10 years time and see if the trend holds  McGregor is actually a writer who I used to hold in high esteem, but who I now find almost unreadable. The guy almost always had great artists, but seemed to be pathologically unable to let the art help tell the story. I think he may be the single "best" example of the trend of over-writing comic stories in the 70s and 80s. I never had a problem with McGregor. He did over-write; but, I would tune it out when it went overboard and pick back up when it was important. Probably due to reading more Bronze Age DC than Marvel, for many years, before having more access. DC had some long-winded writers. I can relate.  I do think that McGregor is better when he is dealing with less fantastic material and more realistic, though I thought he did a great job on Killraven (P Craig Russell's art does help). |
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Post by MWGallaher on Feb 15, 2017 13:15:41 GMT -5
DC's war comics.
I bought a handful off the stands in the 70's and 80's, but I usually ignored them on the spinner racks. I sampled Kirby's Losers, some Enemy Ace reprints, a couple of issues of Men Of War, but nothing clicked.
In the 80's, I enjoyed Blackhawk, but I didn't consider that to be in the same category as their Silver & Bronze Age "straight" war books. I also remember a couple of Sgt. Rock Annuals that I picked up for the Dan Spiegle artwork, and those were outstanding.
It wasn't until the early 2000's, when I saw Sgt. Rock Archives Volume 1 in my public library, that I decided to give the big dog of DC's war line a chance.
And I was bowled over with how good it was. I devoured this and the other one or two volumes the library had.
Now that I knew that I had been missing out on some really good stuff, I took advantage of DC's Showcase volumes to sample more.
The War That Time Forgot, which should have been up my alley, was instead almost unreadable.
The Unknown Soldier was just as captivating as Sgt. Rock, and I was shocked to enjoy a huge run of Jack Sparling-drawn stories. But the Micheline/Talaoc issues were the real highlight. Once Michelinie left, I was let down by Bob Haney's take on the series, which was mired with many aggravating factors and a curious artistic decision.
Haunted Tank was not as good as Rock or US, but still rewarding. Kanigher's tendency toward repetition, which he repeated repeatedly, was aggravating, but not as much as it was in War That Time Forgot.
The Losers was a real revelation, as I hadn't known that the magnificent John Severin had done so many issues! I'm really itching for another volume of this, especially if I could convince DC to skip the Kirby issues--they would come next in a Showcase Volume 2, but I've already got 'em in the Kirby Losers hardcover!
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 15, 2017 13:41:01 GMT -5
MWGallaher, you don't mention if you ever revisited Enemy Ace, but I hope you did. Although the problem with reading too many at a time that is the Kanigher Kurse is still there, in small doses, it's an excellent character and series. The Showcase Presents collects, I think, every appearance up until the character reappeared in mini-series like War in Heaven and Guns of the Dragon. I do have to say, though, that it is one of those strips that I much prefer in color. Still, Kubert's art soars --no pun intended -- in those stories. Though, I don't know when Kubert ever had a bad day.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 15, 2017 13:49:51 GMT -5
MWGallaher , you don't mention if you ever revisited Enemy Ace, but I hope you did. Although the problem with reading too many at a time that is the Kanigher Kurse is still there, in small doses, it's an excellent character and series. The Showcase Presents collects, I think, every appearance up until the character reappeared in mini-series like War in Heaven and Guns of the Dragon. I do have to say, though, that it is one of those strips that I much prefer in color. Still, Kubert's art soars --no pun intended -- in those stories. Though, I don't know when Kubert ever had a bad day. I really really love Guns of the Dragon. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 15, 2017 14:51:35 GMT -5
MWGallaher , you don't mention if you ever revisited Enemy Ace, but I hope you did. Although the problem with reading too many at a time that is the Kanigher Kurse is still there, in small doses, it's an excellent character and series. The Showcase Presents collects, I think, every appearance up until the character reappeared in mini-series like War in Heaven and Guns of the Dragon. I do have to say, though, that it is one of those strips that I much prefer in color. Still, Kubert's art soars --no pun intended -- in those stories. Though, I don't know when Kubert ever had a bad day. I really really love Guns of the Dragon. Ditto. I enoyed War in Heaven, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 18:06:56 GMT -5
MWGallaher , you don't mention if you ever revisited Enemy Ace, but I hope you did. Although the problem with reading too many at a time that is the Kanigher Kurse is still there, in small doses, it's an excellent character and series. The Showcase Presents collects, I think, every appearance up until the character reappeared in mini-series like War in Heaven and Guns of the Dragon. I do have to say, though, that it is one of those strips that I much prefer in color. Still, Kubert's art soars --no pun intended -- in those stories. Though, I don't know when Kubert ever had a bad day. I really really love Guns of the Dragon. I got turned on to that series by the fine folks here in one of the 12 Days of Christmas events (I think the last one at the old place) and tracked it down. Loved it. -M |
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Post by String on Feb 15, 2017 22:10:04 GMT -5
I do have to say, though, that it is one of those strips that I much prefer in color. Still, Kubert's art soars --no pun intended -- in those stories. Though, I don't know when Kubert ever had a bad day. I would agree. I have the first Showcase volume and while Kubert's art in b&w is stunning, the addition of color is like day versus night. I've been considering tracking down the older Archive edition so as to truly enjoy this art and series as intended. As for the OP, two series immediately come to mind: 1) Astonishing X-Men by Whedon and Cassaday. Back then, I had problems with the perceived Golden Boy Whedon and so passed over this new X-title as yet another sign of Whedon-Can-Do-No-Wrong. But the appeal of Cassaday's art and reading constant great reviews by other X-fans convinced me to finally try it...and they were right. Brilliant characterization and drama coupled with great art. 2) Usagi Yojimbo. I had bought the UY trade Brink of Life and Death some years back from a local book store. I read the first story before moving onto something else, for some reason I just didn't give it the proper focus (plus, it didn't occur to me that this was the same Sakai who worked on Groo which I had read for a number of years under it's Epic Comics title). Later on, I became interested in samurai/Japanese history. So I gave UY another chance and have loved it ever since. |
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