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Post by james on Feb 16, 2017 5:00:46 GMT -5
I just started reading Ostrander and McDonnell Suicide Squad from the 80's. Now back then I was all about Byrne, Perez, Jrjr, and Adams. I hated McDonnell's art. And the writing wasn't exciting enough. God I was a ass. Now 20+ years later I really am enjoying this book. Has anyone else tried Comics or characters that when they came out you didn't have time for and now you kick yourself for not giving them a chance and The Spirit come to mind. Yes, I know... mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I was 10-12 when I first became aware of the works of Pratt and Eisner, and I disliked the former's sketchy approach (utterly failing to see its poetry and subtlety) and the latter's 1940s-1950s feel (utterly failing to see how charming it is, and how brilliant the strips were). I completely failed at recognizing the sheer genius of these gentlemen. Luckily, it didn't take me decades to see how wrong I was... I grew to love Pratt's and Eisner's works just a few years later. But sheesh, what a lot of wasted time anyway... Actually I Totally forgot about this series until I was at my library and saw they had all 3 volumes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 7:18:56 GMT -5
Astonishing X-Men by Whedon and Cassaday. Back then, I had problems with the perceived Golden Boy Whedon and so passed over this new X-title as yet another sign of Whedon-Can-Do-No-Wrong. But the appeal of Cassaday's art and reading constant great reviews by other X-fans convinced me to finally try it...and they were right. Brilliant characterization and drama coupled with great art. I have to agree. IMO the X-Men had not been good since the late 80's. I love Cassady's work but felt Whedon's writing was meh until this series. This series convinced me that with the right creative team the X-Men could be great reading & Whedon did an awesome job. |
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 17, 2017 22:43:15 GMT -5
Not a comic book but rather a comic strip, being Lil Abner  Of course it was later collected as a comic book, but I thought it was the stupidest strip ever as a kid and now I'm crazy about it. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 17, 2017 23:55:18 GMT -5
L'il Abner was a strip I grew to enjoy as well. But there are two things I do hold against it. First, Frank Frazetta spent many years ghosting the artwork and and keeping it in the Al Capp style. I'm sure Frank got paid handsomely, more than he would have made in the comic book biz. But think of all that luscious artwork from him that we never got to see in his own style.
Secondly, Al Capp himself. By the late 60's he morphed from a progressive Roosevelt New-Deal type of guy into a rabid conservative with a deep hatred for long hair hippies. He also became a Bill Cosby type of dirty old man.Plenty of young women complained of his sexual attacks upon the. But back then, it was a man's world-so to speak-and he got away with it for many years
Here's Al Capp confronting John Lennon and Yoko Ono during their "bed-in" demonstration for world peace. Unbelievable stuff
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Post by Confessor on Feb 18, 2017 2:55:44 GMT -5
From what I've seen and read (including that clip with Lennon & Yoko, in which he's just flat out rude), Capp was a bona fide, grade-A a**hole. He may've been a great cartoonist -- although I wouldn't know because I've never read any of his stuff -- but he was an amateur human being.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 18, 2017 4:20:14 GMT -5
From what I've seen and read (including that clip with Lennon & Yoko, in which he's just flat out rude), Capp was a bona fide, grade-A a**hole. He may've been a great cartoonist -- although I wouldn't know because I've never read any of his stuff -- but he was an amateur human being. You know, bringing up the subject of Al Capp made me google some documentation of his antics. I found this. You just have to wonder how many other examples of his exposing himself to female college students occurred and was hushed up due to his fame, fortune and the acceptance of female victimization back then. I had forgotten how Goldie Hawn was one of his accusers. Stomach-turning behavior comicscommentary.blogspot.com/2012/01/al-capps-sex-scandals.html |
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 21, 2017 18:17:05 GMT -5
Continuing the newspaper comic strip angle, I usually didn't read Pogo in the daily paper 40-50 years ago. I just didn't get it. But reading the collections on Kurt's recommendation was a lot of fun.
Also, in the 60s and 70s when I was actively buying comics, I studiously avoided war, western and romance comics. I still haven't read Kirby's Losers - it's the only comic from his 70s stint at DC that I've never read. Well, I haven't read Spirit World, but only because I've never found a copy.
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Post by dbutler69 on Feb 22, 2017 9:03:45 GMT -5
For me, I was almost entirely into superhero comics back in the day, so I missed out on great stuff like Master of Kung Fu. Plus I was mostly into superhero groups and team-up books, usually only buying solo series if the cover looked good (most likely meaning an interesting guest star) so I aside from being a regular buyer, for a time, of Thor, Spider-Man, and Silver Surfer, I missed out on plenty of cool solo stuff. I spend most of my current comic reading time trying to rectify these oversights.
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