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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 23:10:06 GMT -5
Not sure if this has been covered on the board before. I've been aware for a few months that Marvel doesn't always have access to original art or stats to produce each story they publish in their Masterworks books. I was reminded of this when I just read FF 32. I'm convinced much of that issue in the Masterworks it appeared in was done by a reproduction artist and not Kirby. I think it may even be common in the Silver Age FF reprints that that's the case. Here's a link to a statement put out on the Masterworks forum addressskng this a bit. marvelmasterworksfansite.yuku.com/topic/6855 |
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Post by Confessor on Feb 28, 2017 17:28:54 GMT -5
I had no idea about this, but it kinda makes sense. I say "kinda" because after reading that (very interesting) article, I'm puzzled as to why Marvel don't simply use high resolution scans of old comics pages, clean them up (remove the colour etc) and then re-colour them for the Madterworks. Surely that would be a better solution than paying someone to recreate missing pages?
Also, I was under the impression that the process of photographing/scanning actual pages of old comics and removing all the colour to use in the production of reprints was something that had been perfected in the '60s or '70s, and had been widely used. Is that not the case?
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Post by MDG on Feb 28, 2017 17:42:24 GMT -5
I had no idea about this, but it kinda makes sense. I say "kinda" because after reading that (very interesting) article, I'm puzzled as to why Marvel don't simply use high resolution scans of old comics pages, clean them up (remove the colour etc) and then re-colour them for the Madterworks. Surely that would be a better solution than paying someone to recreate missing pages? Also, I was under the impression that the process of photographing/scanning actual pages of old comics and removing all the colour to use in the production of reprints was something that had been perfected in the '60s or '70s, and had been widely used. Is that not the case? Greg Theakston developed a process that bleached the colored inks of of comic pages, leaving the black lines to be photographed. Sometimes the blacks still had to be touched up. I think early DC archives were done this way. |
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Post by Confessor on Feb 28, 2017 17:48:15 GMT -5
I had no idea about this, but it kinda makes sense. I say "kinda" because after reading that (very interesting) article, I'm puzzled as to why Marvel don't simply use high resolution scans of old comics pages, clean them up (remove the colour etc) and then re-colour them for the Madterworks. Surely that would be a better solution than paying someone to recreate missing pages? Also, I was under the impression that the process of photographing/scanning actual pages of old comics and removing all the colour to use in the production of reprints was something that had been perfected in the '60s or '70s, and had been widely used. Is that not the case? Greg Theakston developed a process that bleached the colored inks of of comic pages, leaving the black lines to be photographed. Sometimes the blacks still had to be touched up. I think early DC archives were done this way. Ah yes, this is what I'm referring to. I remember hearing that the colour's were bleached from the page for reprints. When abouts did Greg Theakston pioneer this method? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:22:32 GMT -5
I buy a lot of Marvel collected hardcovers and I was aware of the practice. I know some people prefer the original art but if the choice was no Spider-Man MMW or Omnibus as some of the art from ASM #29 is missing, or have the art reproduced for the collected volumes, then I'll take the reproduction.
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Post by shaxper on Feb 28, 2017 19:26:33 GMT -5
I had no idea about this, but it kinda makes sense. I say "kinda" because after reading that (very interesting) article, I'm puzzled as to why Marvel don't simply use high resolution scans of old comics pages, clean them up (remove the colour etc) and then re-colour them for the Madterworks. Surely that would be a better solution than paying someone to recreate missing pages? Also, I was under the impression that the process of photographing/scanning actual pages of old comics and removing all the colour to use in the production of reprints was something that had been perfected in the '60s or '70s, and had been widely used. Is that not the case? Greg Theakston developed a process that bleached the colored inks of of comic pages, leaving the black lines to be photographed. Sometimes the blacks still had to be touched up. I think early DC archives were done this way. I do recall hearing that DC had cannibalized some of their file copies in order to produce the Archive Editions. I don't recall the details, but this sounds right. Do benday dots really reproduce so badly on high quality paper that this process was necessary? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:48:03 GMT -5
I buy a lot of Marvel collected hardcovers and I was aware of the practice. I know some people prefer the original art but if the choice was no Spider-Man MMW or Omnibus as some of the art from ASM #29 is missing, or have the art reproduced for the collected volumes, then I'll take the reproduction. Same here! |
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Post by MDG on Mar 1, 2017 6:57:10 GMT -5
Greg Theakston developed a process that bleached the colored inks of of comic pages, leaving the black lines to be photographed. Sometimes the blacks still had to be touched up. I think early DC archives were done this way. Ah yes, this is what I'm referring to. I remember hearing that the colour's were bleached from the page for reprints. When abouts did Greg Theakston pioneer this method? Not sure. Assuming he pioneered this with the reprints he was publishing, probably in the mid-80s, when high-quality scanning wasn't common yet. |
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